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#21 ·
🍿🍿🍿🍿Interesting thread! Had a hyundai veloster with gdi before the fronty and it was terrible with oil dilution. You could change the oil and a few days later it would almost be black again and smell like fuel. Fun car but shi**y engine and DCT.
Thinking out loud: wonder if injectors are blowing past the rings that are still seating due to break-in or they used low tension rings and problem will persist thru its lifetime....:unsure:
 
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#22 ·
My 2020 was the same. I did my first oil change at 1200 to get the break in stuff out and then poured in a 5 qt jug. and it actually still reads about that much on the dipstick. the manual says we need a bit over 5 qts to fill the crankcase, but if you put in that much, you'll go way way over the top mark on the dipstick. and that's when I let the old oil drain until it was a really slow drip.

I guess next oil change I'm going even less than 5 qts.
 
#24 ·
RamTest said:
When there is gas in the oil, it smells like gas. You wouldn't miss it.
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I mean I smell it. Its not uncommon to smell even fuel vapor in a GDI engine from the engine oil. Same for TGDI. Its even worse smelling when I take the oil cap off of my WRX. Anyways, I did the ol cardboard trick that works same for diesel. You dab a little oil on the cardboard and see if you get 2 circles. The fuel will soak faster than the oil. And sure enough I did it and the ring was huge. Took some old oil from my wifes rogue (port injection QR25DE) and barely any outter ring.

Im just going to have to wait till my lab report comes back from Blackstone. At least will be able to tell for sure then. However even having them test it, I think I read they can only show a value of up to 5%.
 
#25 ·
zeronian said:
My 2020 was the same. I did my first oil change at 1200 to get the break in stuff out and then poured in a 5 qt jug. and it actually still reads about that much on the dipstick. the manual says we need a bit over 5 qts to fill the crankcase, but if you put in that much, you'll go way way over the top mark on the dipstick. and that's when I let the old oil drain until it was a really slow drip.

I guess next oil change I'm going even less than 5 qts.
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Yep same for me. I put in that new Valvoline Extended performance because I wanted to try it. Valvoline is marketing it for DI engines based off the marketing materials and the Add pack. I am going to dump this oil next week and I am going back to Penzoil platinum. Will do just 5qts too. Hoping my oil Analysis report will come back at least next week before my appointment to get my door fixed at nissan, I want to have enough to take to them to not just blow me off. Pretty sure they might tell me since they didnt do the oil analysis themselves they will discredit mine.

I really hope this motor isnt designed like this to have this problem. Thats so disappointing. It was so hard for me to get this truck because of shortage issues and Im kinda pissed off about it. Surely nissan did extensive testing on the design and operation of this engine before releasing it. Cant imagine the engine oil wasnt testing after running it. They surely have to know fuel is getting in there.

I had a 2020 ranger that experienced this with the 2.3ecoboost and I got rid of it. Take a look at the 123 pages and 1100+ post about people having this issue. Ford has even replaced injectors, the high pressure fuel pump, the fuel rails etc, and it has now gotten to the point where ford told dealers no more and its normal operation as they havent pin pointed what the cause is. Personally I think its because of the shaft that drives the HFP and the seal leaking. Fuel in oil

A little fuel from GDI engines getting into the oil is okay not 1/2-1 qt of fuel.. Unbelievable!
 
#27 ·
Is that the original oil fill from the factory/dealer?
dalekinder said:
Man, Literally just was about to make a post. SAME THING! I took my frontier to Nissan at 1200 to get that oil out and I put in Valvolines new Extended performance oil. I know the tech didnt overfill because I watched and he gave me my 1 quart container back. I bought a 5qt jug and 1 quart bottle. So when I got the 1 quart back it has 1/4 taken out. Now I have about 3000 miles on her. I decided today to change out the antenna and I was like what the hell im going to check the oil. I have enclosed a pic of where the oil level was from my manual and I marked it with my black pen.

I have one blackstone labs oil kit left so I decided im taking a sample and sending it off. It better not be fuel dilution. I literally got rid of a 2020 ranger for this very exact reason. ONly their reason was the HFP was leaking down the shaft and into the oil pan. I filled up my test kit bottle and drained more to get it to where it needs to be and im pretty sure i pulled out half a quart.

I have the 2021 Frontier midnight edition. Like I said, was literally about to make a post and saw yours before I hit new discussion. I have an aPPT on the 6th to fix my door. Im going to monitor it. View attachment 333009
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Out of curiosity, what is step 4?
 
#29 ·
mxtreme30 said:
🍿🍿🍿🍿Interesting thread! Had a hyundai veloster with gdi before the fronty and it was terrible with oil dilution. You could change the oil and a few days later it would almost be black again and smell like fuel. Fun car but shi**y engine and DCT.
Thinking out loud: wonder if injectors are blowing past the rings that are still seating due to break-in or they used low tension rings and problem will persist thru its lifetime....:unsure:
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Shouldnt the rings be seated by say 3000miles ish? But you bring up a point, so far myself and the other members we have very low mileage, all of us that reported under 3000. I mean you could be right, these motors like to keep low revs especially in 9th gear. I drive between 60-70 and at 65 its at 1500rpms on the highway and I havent been driving it like a bat out of hell.
 
#33 ·
The other Sean said:
Also, are these high fills only on the initial from the factory fill or after an oil change as well? Ay chance the hose filling the engines at the factory isn't calibrated correctly? almost every frontier and Xterra left the factory a little low on coolant. how much oil is in one extra chug on the oil gun?
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Oh I see what you mean. Step 4 from the manual is "Remove the dipstick and wipe it clean, reinsert it all the way" And did you see my other post on page 1 I had mine changed out and I was in the shop with the tech and watched him do it. Once he was done I did the dipstick check myself 3 times and it was perfect, exactly where it needed to be.
 
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This is an oil check
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