[raine]

Thanks for taking the time to do the research and the write up, have read it twice and you confirmed my suspicion, the Z1 is superior. the screw to the dash support and the M-Lok nuts are a better design and the aesthetics is a bonus. sure wish it was released before I got my Rubigrid, oh well.

If there's nothing wrong with your current setup, I don't see a reason to switch to the Z1 part.
FYI if you were to switch from Rubigrid to Z1, the extra holes in the OEM dash bin aren't a problem (and vice versa).
I never really used M-Loks before, now I see the ingenuity of them for sure.

 

[RyanD1966]

If there's nothing wrong with your current setup, I don't see a reason to switch to the Z1 part.
FYI if you were to switch from Rubigrid to Z1, the extra holes in the OEM dash bin aren't a problem (and vice versa).
I never really used M-Loks before, now I see the ingenuity of them for sure.

M-Loks are very handy and are used in many items. My AR10 rifle has a full M-Lok system handguard and I used it to mount bipod legs, one per side. To see it move over to the automotive side is not a surprise, but is a great idea, should be well received.

 

[California Gator]

Part 2 is posted. Also added to the website of course.

Great writeup as always, @raine
Yep. The bulletpoint vibrates a lot, but I'm surprised that it happened to you by where you mounted them. I suspected it was because the corners were not supported. But I guess it's because it's the plate is only attached to the tray and the whole tray is vibrating.

I've got my tablet mounted on a shorter arm than your contraption, so I suspect that's why it doesn't vibrate too much...but when offroad and trying to make sure I get the correct trail I'll either stop or grab the tablet for a moment. But heck, even my cell phone vibrates enough to be annoying when using it to navigate on the rough California highways and biways.

I wonder if I can add some foam to reduce the vibration. Or maybe try to make a plate like Z1's and screw the bulletpoint down.

I also wonder if the rattling/vibrating sound that I hear near the driver's side A-pillar is actually the cubby rattling and the noise is echoing off the glass weirdly to sound like it's coming from my left.

When I got the beta unit from bulletpoint, I, too, mentioned that the top plate should be even with the top of the cubby. But that was another point they ignored and just went to production.

I really need to try out the Ford Ranger version and see if I get the same vibration. But life just keeps getting in the way.

 

[raine]

Great writeup as always, @raine

Thank you sir

Yep. The bulletpoint vibrates a lot, but I'm surprised that it happened to you by where you mounted them. I suspected it was because the corners were not supported. But I guess it's because it's the plate is only attached to the tray and the whole tray is vibrating.

I thought about this more after the write-up... even if the Rubigrid has that very, very srtong mounting base - it is literally attached to a thinner piece of plastic that only snaps into place in the center console. So anything with enough leverage to move the Rubigrid (like high-CG weight and/or offset weight a la mounting arms) will move the bin as well. Since the bin just snaps into place (not bolted in) there's the recipe for the creaking noises.

What I did not expect was that much creaking on paved roads.

I wonder if I can add some foam to reduce the vibration. Or maybe try to make a plate like Z1's and screw the bulletpoint down.

Not sure if we're talking about the same thing - but my issue was creaking - not necessarily vibration. Vibration is more of a constant (like the notorious 2nd gen low-idle buzz)... whereas what I experienced was more like "twisting sounds" upon impact with anything on the driving surface that wasn't flat.

I think for the Rubigrid it would be difficult to fab up something to connect to the dash support underneath... because there wouldn't be a way to get to that particular screw thanks to the completely solid mounting plate of the Rubigrid.

When I got the beta unit from bulletpoint, I, too, mentioned that the top plate should be even with the top of the cubby. But that was another point they ignored and just went to production.

Maybe they were spending more time on the bro-tastic fake rifle bullet branded merch

 

[CanyonRoamer]

I should have the second part posted hopefully by Monday. I have all the photos ready and data/talking points, I just need to find enough time to translate it to do a lot of typing.

Random question if you don’t mind me asking. I couldn’t find this on Z1’s page, but what’s the rough size of the platform?

Still considering it on the dash, but I may have more use for it first below. I don’t have a dash support but should be fine for my use. Or maybe go with the Rubigrid as this piece isn’t as flimsy as the dash tray.

 

[raine]

Random question if you don’t mind me asking. I couldn’t find this on Z1’s page, but what’s the rough size of the platform?

Still considering it on the dash, but I may have more use for it first below. I don’t have a dash support but should be fine for my use. Or maybe go with the Rubigrid as this piece isn’t as flimsy as the dash tray.

Measure the flat part of the dash bin (the upper one) and that's the "rough size".
But I can take an actual measurement when I get home later today.

 

[CanyonRoamer]

Measure the flat part of the dash bin (the upper one) and that's the "rough size".
But I can take an actual measurement when I get home later today.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You are correct. That completely went over my head. I can just measure mine, no worries. Good lord do I need more sleep 😂

 

[Grumpy Shihtzu]

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