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Fuel Prices Rising = The Hard Question

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#1 ·
Hello,

Well, per our wonderful fixed news sources fuel prices are going to rise, perhaps to a fixed higher rate. Now, in the past when this happened I typically adjusted the vehicle I was driving to accommodate the higher prices. I never did the math beyond a year of the sale / trade to see if I came out ahead. I looked at it as a chance to drive something new, keep the new car smell, etc.

I, as I am sure some others on here are, driving the Frontier because we find traits in it that make us happy. And it suits our lifestyle, be it the daily one or the occasional one. I did 90% of everything I could in my 09 Jetta TDI...and those that I could not, I just did not do.

That being said, should gas prices rise to $5.00 per gallon or more (I live in VA and right now it is rising above $3.50), would you sell your truck? What worries me is that each time I did react to fuel cost increases or length of commute or a combination there of, the next "cycle" had me wishing I had not made the trade.

Right now, with the mileage I place on the Frontier per month, I spend about $385 per month in gas. If the fuel hits and stays at $4.50 that raises the monthly cost to $495. I rode out the diesel surge with my 08 F350 and traded when it was decent again so I could buy my house (what a shitty decision looking back...but the ex wife wanted a house...and I got it now).

Based on cost vs options vs some cargo space it looks like I would possibly get a:

Mazda2 Touring manual trans

VW Golf 2 door manual trans with the package

Suggestions?

Just wondering if anyone else is pondering the same thing as I am. I love the truck, the payment is not bad and insurance is decent. But that 21 gal tank seems to like redirecting retirement money :)
 
#2 ·
if you can affrod the depreciation, i say go for it. Also, don't forget to account for how many years it will take before you actually start saving money and if gas prices fluctuate to lower prices again that will only delay your savings. Here in los angeles, i got gas for 3.59 a few days ago, so youre still cheaper (hell it's always more expensive here). If youre set on buying another, i'm sure you considered buy used.
 
#4 ·
Back in late 2005 I sold my F150 because of high gas prices ($3 at the time) and bought a Honda Civic. In hindsight, I regret doing it. Since then, gas has gone up to $4 and down to less than $2.

FWIW, I pose this question. Do you use your Frontier to haul, tow, or offroad? If you don't, then your option to purchase a Mazda or Golf would probably have a minimal impact on your lifestyle. Me, I haul and tow (no offroading though). It would take some pretty high gas prices for me to consider giving up all the fun and utility I get from hauling and cross-country towing with my truck.
 
#5 ·
I may have a case of ignorance is bliss, but I quit "listening" to the news. After all, oil was supposed to go over $200 a barrell at one time.

When gas was around $4 in 2008, I tapered off my driving. I went from filling up once a week, to filling up once every 2 weeks.
 
#6 ·
Daily, no way. I would say about once every other month it is filled with hay or gear as my girl has a horse. I build stuff for fun, so HD gets my lumber business. I have offroaded one time in it, and had a blast...but do need a lift if I plan to do similar trails again. It has towed a few trailers, but for one time use as I do not have one nor need one.

I really do enjoy driving the truck. But if I start spending more in gas than I do groceries...right now it is roughly equal...I might have to think about it. I do think I could get a trade value equal to what I owe...so no neg equity. BUT I like having the zombie slayer I have built.

So, I will look around and see what the next few weeks bring.
 
#9 ·
Hello,
That being said, should gas prices rise to $5.00 per gallon or more (I live in VA and right now it is rising above $3.50), would you sell your truck? What worries me is that each time I did react to fuel cost increases or length of commute or a combination there of, the next "cycle" had me wishing I had not made the trade.
I just bought my truck a little over a week ago. I had a fuel efficient car but it was killing me in maintenance costs (Volvo). I've owned four trucks in my driving "career" so I *knew* I missed having a truck and, after trying the top three, knew the Frontier was the best of the best.

For me, the "cost" of trying to find a truck to borrow and costs of owning a high-maintenance vehicle were overcome by the cost of owning a truck. Funny thing is, the Frontier was quieter and smoother than some of the *cars* I "interviewed" before my purchase.

Regardless, best of luck with the final decision.

Cheers!
 
#11 ·
No matter what the fuel prices do , I've got to have a truck for work. As gas prices rise i slow down and get better gas mileage. I am tired of getting screwed by the oil companys and our govt promoting the high prices but i refuse to let them win.
 
#12 ·
VOTE, VOTE, VOTE the fool out of office.
Or sit there and take another four years of this.

Clint
 
#13 ·
Was just reading through this thread and thinking the same thing. Glad someone actually said it. Thanks Clint.

And Yes, GET THIS IDIOT OUT!!
 
#14 ·
plain and simple you shouldnt have bought a truck if you are concerned about gas mileage. Everyone knows trucks are not known for great gas mileage. The easiest option I see is buy a motorcycle and keep the truck.

Problem solved.
 
#16 ·
I can put plenty of fuel in my truck rather than facing the 4K depreciation currently on my truck. Honestly, I can't drive a car or a 4cyl truck anymore. I drive on average 165 miles a week, I can probably swing the extra $20-30 a week. Curb my spending by not eating out for lunch everyday, and buying other unnecessary junk.
 
#18 ·
I am going to do something along these lines as well. I will say that my main interest is not to save gas, but to have a manual car, which will be a new experience for me. As far as a bike, it's a waste of time, I've tried it and it is fun. But trying to have a motorcycle as a daily driver is very impractical.
 
#19 ·
dont see how its impractical i do it 6-7months out ouf every year. The way I see it is trading in a vehicle and losing lump sums of money is impractical. I have had manual cars in city traffic and that is a waste of time in my eyes.

But what obviously works for me may not for others.
 
#21 ·
One of my co-workers managed to lease a Honda Civic for less than what it was taking to fill up his f-150. The f-150 is paid for, but he didn't want to let it go since he needs a truck for hauling crap around. If gas prices went lower, then he could let the lease go when it was up, or lease something else if gas prices stayed up.

Personally, I ride a little ninja 250 whenever the weather is good. A slightly used 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250 ran me right around $3500. It gets 60mpg. A rear tire lasts about 7000 miles and costs around $130 per rear. Front needs changing every other rear tire. Insurance is like $40 a month for me. I enjoy it because its different from driving the truck and it helps split the miles between vehicles. Its not for everyone though. It is higher risk, and people have a tendancy to not see you.
 
#23 ·
I agree, there should be a large change in the names of those on key address labels in D.C. and surrounding areas. Both sides need to be fired and replaced with folks not there to pad their own pockets.

Motorcycles are not my thing. Tried to ride one twice, did not enjoy it. I do like to ride my bicycle, but a motor bike not so much.

I spoke with my lovely lady and she said that she wants me to keep the truck. Based our desire to camp and do other things, she said keep it. Her Jeep is good but not quite the Frontier. I stopped tonight and checked out the Mazda2 and the Forte Koup. Both are nice looking cars for what they are. I could drive either one. But she said we will just adjust and keep it.

And to answer a few, very welcome BTW, comments in previous replies my truck would not take that large of a hit. I did not pay anywhere near sticker for it. And I had positive equity on my trade when I bought it. It would be narrowed a bit due to the mods and some customers may not like it, but I do believe it would go for a respectable amount, leaving me with no negative equity.

But keep the comments coming....this thread may help others out or change my girl's mind :).
 
#24 ·
If you (or anyone else) bought their Frontier because it's a truck and uses the bed often, can't sell it and buy a car.
The price of gas hammers everyone but I have to have a truck and have to deal with the cost. The translation for that is my customers pay me more to cover the difference.

Clint
 
#25 ·
I hear ya Clint. I do not own my own business nor use my truck for work, other than commuting. So I can't do that. But owning a truck does bring on certain costs, and those are well known. This is my personally owned forth truck and the seventh in my household. I have also owned, personally, five cars. All have their perks. Price at the pump is what sparked this discussion. :)
 
#26 ·
ive officially owned TWO cars. (not including cars I drove that mom owned). One of those cars was mine, one was my wifes. The rest of the vehicles I have owned have been trucks. I really hated the car everytime I needed a truck. Mostly when I needed to haul my mountain bike to the trail.
That said, Ive had vehicles that got 30 mpg, Ive had vehicles that got 8 mpg. and quite honestly, my budget has always adjusted to what I need to buy fuel. sometimes you just have to cut back on beer and eat less fast food, other times you cut back on the driving and stay home on the weekends.
One thing I have found that saves a lot more money than I realized was to take your lunch to work. for me, that cuts out about 10 miles of driving each day.
 
#29 ·
Hi: All...I just bought the Frontier last year. It gets better mileage than my V6 Generous Motors did, has one more seat, and when I retire we don't need the second vehicle.
Gas here is $1.20 a ltr. so thats about $4.80 for a U.S. gal. You should see the price for bread and milk too!!! Beer is $30.00-$40.00 a 24 so ya just cut back somewhere.
You can't tow a 5th wh. trailer with a motorcycle!!!
CanNissan N.S. of Lake Erie:hi:
 

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