[White Wolf]

Same with factory Goodyear Eagle LS's. Same with Duelers. Junk. My Frontier came with budget OEM Michelin Primacy's. Junk. Sold them asap. Got the new Dynapro AT2 Extreme's. 70K rated. Crazy how the factory tires got screwed up. Odds are the dealer can get the non factory spec Dynapro's.

 

[308567]

old thread i know
but i feel like wise about the stock OEM Michelins, they are the worst i have ever had as oem, My old ford f250 came with better Michelins , These when on wet roads make me grab the 4x4 knob and engage it.
I talked with a local tire shop about going BFG trail ta's, Which i have had in the past, they didn't want to talk trade in value claiming on a set that had 2k miles on them , Told me no one would want them even used , $1400.00 for 5 installed

 

[SoupAssassin]

old thread i know
but i feel like wise about the stock OEM Michelins, they are the worst i have ever had as oem, My old ford f250 came with better Michelins , These when on wet roads make me grab the 4x4 knob and engage it.
I talked with a local tire shop about going BFG trail ta's, Which i have had in the past, they didn't want to talk trade in value claiming on a set that had 2k miles on them , Told me no one would want them even used , $1400.00 for 5 installed

$1400 for a set of BFG trails, even with a spare, is pretty steep. They are like $200 a piece in OEM size. That's a $400 tire install fee.

 

[308567]

i agree it's high! what i was told is 241 each plus 45 mount and balance times 5 or 1430.00 plus state sales tax

 

[Ruggybuggy]

old thread i know
but i feel like wise about the stock OEM Michelins, they are the worst i have ever had as oem, My old ford f250 came with better Michelins , These when on wet roads make me grab the 4x4 knob and engage it.
I talked with a local tire shop about going BFG trail ta's, Which i have had in the past, they didn't want to talk trade in value claiming on a set that had 2k miles on them , Told me no one would want them even used , $1400.00 for 5 installed

I put 20k on my stock Michelin tires and liked them. Never had one issue with wet traction and they were very quiet. They did pick up stones quiet a bit because of the large gap between the tread but that large gap helped expell water to prevent hydro planing. I would still be running fjem but I move up a tire size to 265/70R17.

 

[Ruggybuggy]

My post is regarding the transmission pawl replacement recall. I have not bothered to do this yet because the dealer is a two hour drive away and I'm not sure I will bother at this point. I've never had the truck roll away or the parking pawl fail to engage. I did have them do the software update part of the recall the last time I was in about 8 months ago hoping it would help with the wonky cruise control. My question is to those that have had it done, if the engagement of the parking pawl quieter after the replacement? When my transmission goes into park and depending on the terrain the parking engagement can be quite noticeable. Sounds like a rattle noise for about a half a second. I've never had a transmission with such a noisy engagement of the parking pawl.

 

[maineiac]

My post is regarding the transmission pawl replacement recall. I have not bothered to do this yet because the dealer is a two hour drive away and I'm not sure I will bother at this point. I've never had the truck roll away or the parking pawl fail to engage. I did have them do the software update part of the recall the last time I was in about 8 months ago hoping it would help with the wonky cruise control. My question is to those that have had it done, if the engagement of the parking pawl quieter after the replacement? When my transmission goes into park and depending on the terrain the parking engagement can be quite noticeable. Sounds like a rattle noise for about a half a second. I've never had a transmission with such a noisy engagement of the parking pawl.

Mine has been silent both before replacement and after replacing.

 

[White Wolf]

My post is regarding the transmission pawl replacement recall. I have not bothered to do this yet because the dealer is a two hour drive away and I'm not sure I will bother at this point. I've never had the truck roll away or the parking pawl fail to engage. I did have them do the software update part of the recall the last time I was in about 8 months ago hoping it would help with the wonky cruise control. My question is to those that have had it done, if the engagement of the parking pawl quieter after the replacement? When my transmission goes into park and depending on the terrain the parking engagement can be quite noticeable. Sounds like a rattle noise for about a half a second. I've never had a transmission with such a noisy engagement of the parking pawl.

My new pawl will still occasionally clunk. Not bad but noticeable at times. It is what it is apparently.

 

[Ruggybuggy]

My new pawl will still occasionally clunk. Not bad but noticeable at times. It is what it is apparently.

Thanks for the reply. I was just curious if the new pawl would have an effect on the noise. Most of the time it's not noticeable but ever once on a while you hear it when parked on a slight grade and taking it out of park. I'm still debating getting it done because I've never had an issue of it not engaging.

 

[GreyFox]

Thanks for the reply. I was just curious if the new pawl would have an effect on the noise. Most of the time it's not noticeable but ever once on a while you hear it when parked on a slight grade and taking it out of park. I'm still debating getting it done because I've never had an issue of it not engaging.

As you mentioned, regardless of new pawl or old, the stress on the actual pawl will vary depending on incline and the alignment of the pocket the pawl goes into. Sometimes you will not feel it engage or disengage, and other times you may. This is 'normal'.
IIRC, the software was to make sure the alignment of the tranny/pocket was more pronounced to avoid NOT actually engaging. The old pawl itself was found to be NOT IN SPEC. What that could mean is the size may not have been correct or the material used was not up to snuff. It's been a year since the recall, so I do not remember the "exact" issue with the pawl pin. Regardless, of the software update(which is what my ride still/only needs), the pawl pin was the main culprit. Again, not sure if it was made of inferior material and sheared off, or the pin just was not the right size for engagement? If it were my ride, I would get the pin replaced if your ride requires it. The software update came a bit later, as a 'catch all' to just make sure there was enough room for error in the alignment of the pawl engagement. Not a big deal IMO. But you do you

 

[Ruggybuggy]

As you mentioned, regardless of new pawl or old, the stress on the actual pawl will vary depending on incline and the alignment of the pocket the pawl goes into. Sometimes you will not feel it engage or disengage, and other times you may. This is 'normal'.
IIRC, the software was to make sure the alignment of the tranny/pocket was more pronounced to avoid NOT actually engaging. The old pawl itself was found to be NOT IN SPEC. What that could mean is the size may not have been correct or the material used was not up to snuff. It's been a year since the recall, so I do not remember the "exact" issue with the pawl pin. Regardless, of the software update(which is what my ride still/only needs), the pawl pin was the main culprit. Again, not sure if it was made of inferior material and sheared off, or the pin just was not the right size for engagement? If it were my ride, I would get the pin replaced if your ride requires it. The software update came a bit later, as a 'catch all' to just make sure there was enough room for error in the alignment of the pawl engagement. Not a big deal IMO. But you do you

From what I read a Nissan tech had reported the the new pin was a fraction smaller in diameter than the old pin. The old pin would have a clearance issue with the case. I'm just reluctant to have a tech work on the truck and have issues after for something that has never shown a problem.

To me it's strange that a parking pawl can make a noticeable rattle when engaging and disengaging. My Tundra was quiet on or off an incline.

 

[GreyFox]

From what I read a Nissan tech had reported the the new pin was a fraction smaller in diameter than the old pin. The old pin would have a clearance issue with the case. I'm just reluctant to have a tech work on the truck and have issues after for something that has never shown a problem.

To me it's strange that a parking pawl can make a noticeable rattle when engaging and disengaging. My Tundra was quiet on or off an incline.

I understand your reluctance. I only need a simple software update, but choose not to go as everything seems fine right now, plus I use the parking brake anyways. But I get your meaning.

Maybe have them do it around 20k or more so you can get the tranny fluid done at the same time?? May save you a few bucks if you have a service writer that is willing to help with the costs since they would be going in there anyways??

 

[Ruggybuggy]

I understand your reluctance. I only need a simple software update, but choose not to go as everything seems fine right now, plus I use the parking brake anyways. But I get your meaning.

Maybe have them do it around 20k or more so you can get the tranny fluid done at the same time?? May save you a few bucks if you have a service writer that is willing to help with the costs since they would be going in there anyways??

That not a bad idea. I was hoping to do the tranny service myself if I can find the software need to set the level. Not sure if you recall but I'm a retired Toyota Pro Tech. Spent some time on the Tundra forum (ask the technician).

 

[SoupAssassin]

That not a bad idea. I was hoping to do the tranny service myself if I can find the software need to set the level. Not sure if you recall but I'm a retired Toyota Pro Tech. Spent some time on the Tundra forum (ask the technician).

I don't believe there is any special software needed for transmission fluid swap? Not that I recall hearing anyway. But you do need a new transmission pan as the pan itself is the filter, then you need some little pump adapter, a special tool to let the old fluid out and set level for fresh, and the fluid itself.

Very few people have discussed doing it themselves yet though unfortunately.

 

[Ruggybuggy]

I don't believe there is any special software needed for transmission fluid swap? Not that I recall hearing anyway. But you do need a new transmission pan as the pan itself is the filter, then you need some little pump adapter, a special tool to let the old fluid out and set level for fresh, and the fluid itself.

Very few people have discussed doing it themselves yet though unfortunately.

I just assumed because there is no dip stick then software would be required. On Toyotas techstream is used to monitor transmission temps to allow for an actuate transmission level. I haven't seen much either on a fluid change and because I tow I'll probably needing it done next year.

 

[GreyFox]

I just assumed because there is no dip stick then software would be required. On Toyotas techstream is used to monitor transmission temps to allow for an actuate transmission level. I haven't seen much either on a fluid change and because I tow I'll probably needing it done next year.

There is a tranny service out there on YT on a Mercedes with similar tranny like Frontier (although Frontier's is designed/licensed by Mercedes). The tech in the video does exactly what you just described as far as temp readings and using the Mercedes computer to monitor proper fluid levels/temp/and any other diagnostics they need.

Like @SoupAssassin stated, no one here has posted any tranny service pics or vids yet. His description of the service is correct as far as pan replacement, plastic tool for opening proper height valve inside, and the hose pump adapter to fill/pump fluid back in. One could probably get close on the temperature and DIY with the mentioned supplies? Again, no one here has posted anything...yet.

 

[maineiac]

any scan tool that can get the tranny temps would work. the level is set by a stand pipe once fluid stops overflowing the stand pipe at a certain temp the level is good.

the pawl recall does not require fluid change. its quits a simple job, if a mechanic cannot do that correctly they should not be working on anything.

if your pawl is making a bunch of noise engaging and disengaging - i would get it looked at sooner rather than later, what you describe does not sound normal.

the issue with the pawl was actually a clearance issue with a boss in the casting of the case, some of the cases were cast with out of spec bosses. nissan fixed it by changing the pawl.

 

[Thrusty]

Agreed with Mainiac. I don’t know if until very recently anyone reported any unusual noises but I sure don’t like the way mine shifts; coming to a stop or accelerating while using cruise. I don’t have any noises coming in and out of park except for my low idle sound. I dunno.

 

[Ruggybuggy]

any scan tool that can get the tranny temps would work. the level is set by a stand pipe once fluid stops overflowing the stand pipe at a certain temp the level is good.

the pawl recall does not require fluid change. its quits a simple job, if a mechanic cannot do that correctly they should not be working on anything.

if your pawl is making a bunch of noise engaging and disengaging - i would get it looked at sooner rather than later, what you describe does not sound normal.

the issue with the pawl was actually a clearance issue with a boss in the casting of the case, some of the cases were cast with out of spec bosses. nissan fixed it by changing the pawl.

What software are you using to read trans temps?

 

[White Wolf]

What software are you using to read trans temps?

Does Nissan have something similar to Yota's Techstream?