[raine]

Where do you think Nissan, Toyota, Ford, get their parts? The same place. Besides, I couldn’t care less if they’re knockoffs or gray market. I was in the IT business, I know all about back door markets, how stuff gets there and why the big boys do nothing about it. I used to buy intel processors that went from California to Indonesia, to China, and back to the US east coast and the landed price was half of what Intel was charging me direct in the states.

Completely oblivious to what I just explained. I'll put it in bold, in as simple of a sentence as possible:

It doesn't matter where it came from, how it's labeled, or how it got here; what matters is how it was made.​

P.S. I've been in the IT business and the overseas electronic manufacturing business... And they are not the same thing
Done with this topic, have a good weekend

 

[johncap523]

Completely oblivious to what I just explained. I'll put it in bold, in as simple of a sentence as possible:

It doesn't matter where it came from, how it's labeled, or how it got here; what matters is how it was made.​

P.S. I've been in the IT business and the overseas electronic manufacturing business... And they are not the same thing
Done with this topic, have a good weekend

They’re all made the same. That’s the point. Nissan buys the same parts from the same people. Just like the cpus that make the rounds. Lest you think they need to set up mfg to counterfeit something as inexpensive and low demand as turn signal switches to hawk on eBay. PS, they don’t even market it as a Nissan OEM part, so if they’re gonna counterfeit at least try to play up the branding. Nah, they’re just excess parts they’re selling out the back door and they don’t push them as OEM in order to steer clear of pissing off their big customer.

And if you don’t believe that, I’ve got a nice piece of swampland for you to build a house on...

 

[raine]

They’re all made the same. That’s the point.

LOL you went from "they're all the same" to "they're all made the same"

From your last reply, it's painfully obvious that you are underestimating the lengths an overseas factory will take to make a profit - legal or illegal, front door or back door, direct or via proxy routes. And you know what? I thought about why you believe what you do, and that's fine - if you've never actually seen what I've seen, then I don't blame you for thinking "they're all made the same." At one point in time years ago, I thought the same thing... but hey, ignorance is bliss.

We (more specifically the company I currently work for) manufacture some of our products overseas, but we purchase white-label and branding as well. For these products, we visit the factories overseas 4 times a year (minus this year, because you know - pandemic) and I've seen it in person myself so many times it's ridiculous how fast the factory can switch it up. Any particular part can be made in the same place, under the same roof, with the same machinery, the same molds, on the same production line - but all it takes is a 30-second pause on the line and one small change in allotted materials per batch and boom - just like that instead of making the standard part that cost $50 to make, they're quickly churning out an identical-looking part of less quality for only $10.

So yeah... if you don't think an overseas factory won't bother to set up manufacturing to counterfeit or make an inferior version of a part AND put in the same effort towards replicating branding and company markings... then you simply haven't seen what I've seen.

P.S. I have a turn signal switch for you to buy that is "made the same" but cheaper, and it won't burn out your switchback LEDs.
...oh, wait.

 

[johncap523]

LOL you went from "they're all the same" to "they're all made the same"

From your last reply, it's painfully obvious that you are underestimating the lengths an overseas factory will take to make a profit - legal or illegal, front door or back door, direct or via proxy routes. And you know what? I thought about why you believe what you do, and that's fine - if you've never actually seen what I've seen, then I don't blame you for thinking "they're all made the same." At one point in time years ago, I thought the same thing... but hey, ignorance is bliss.

We (more specifically the company I currently work for) manufacture some of our products overseas, but we purchase white-label and branding as well. For these products, we visit the factories overseas 4 times a year (minus this year, because you know - pandemic) and I've seen it in person myself so many times it's ridiculous how fast the factory can switch it up. Any particular part can be made in the same place, under the same roof, with the same machinery, the same molds, on the same production line - but all it takes is a 30-second pause on the line and one small change in allotted materials per batch and boom - just like that instead of making the standard part that cost $50 to make, they're quickly churning out an identical-looking part of less quality for only $10.

So yeah... if you don't think an overseas factory won't bother to set up manufacturing to counterfeit or make an inferior version of a part AND put in the same effort towards replicating branding and company markings... then you simply haven't seen what I've seen.

P.S. I have a turn signal switch for you to buy that is "made the same" but cheaper, and it won't burn out your switchback LEDs.
...oh, wait.

You’re twisting yourself in knots to try and assert an item made on the same assembly line as “the real thing” is somehow inferior because it’s being sold out another door. But thank you for supporting my assertions “they’re all the same” AND “they’re all made the same”. BTW, the fact they’re packaged for Nissan strongly suggests they’re not counterfeit but excess, unsold inventory they’re unloading online, cynicism aside...agsin, if you’re gonna go through the trouble of counterfeiting packaging, you’re gonna use it in your marketing. They don’t. It was a shock to see how it was packaged.

Anyway, I’m sure half the guys here would prefer to pay 3x the price knowing Jimmy Bob at the Nissan counter touched the part...or, I could jack up the price on these and say they’re OEM! Yea, that’s it!

 

[raine]

Nah, they’re just excess parts they’re selling out the back door

You’re twisting yourself in knots to try and assert an item made on the same assembly line as “the real thing” is somehow inferior because it’s being sold out another door.

LOL sure buddy, continue arguing against things you said.

 

[johncap523]

LOL sure buddy, continue arguing against things you said.

Where did I argue against anything I said? Dude, share what you’re smoking! ;-)

 

[raine]

Where did I argue against anything I said? Dude, share what you’re smoking! ;-)

I quit smoking last April

 

[johncap523]

I quit smoking last April

I quit smoking last April

You picked a bad time to quit sniff..., er, smoking...

 

[raine]

Again- you’re not reading. I quit last year LOL

But seriously... have you seen the price of a pack of cigarettes these days?!? Aside from the health aspect (obviously), I can’t believe how much money I’ve saved on not having to spend on smokes. On top of that, due to the pandemic I’ve saved even more cash by not having to buy gas on a regular basis the last 4 months!

 

[johncap523]

Again- you’re not reading. I quit last year LOL

But seriously... have you seen the price of a pack of cigarettes these days?!? Aside from the health aspect (obviously), I can’t believe how much money I’ve saved on not having to spend on smokes. On top of that, due to the pandemic I’ve saved even more cash by not having to buy gas on a regular basis the last 4 months!

When I quit smoking....cigarettes I was paying $8.....A CARTON. I used to smoke 2-1/2 packs a day. It would be a car payment to smoke that much now.

But I wasn’t referring to cigarettes....

 

[johncap523]

When I quit smoking....cigarettes I was paying $8.....A CARTON. I used to smoke 2-1/2 packs a day. It would be a car payment to smoke that much now.

But I wasn’t referring to cigarettes....

Yes, my first car payment, for my first car, NEW, was $69 a month. 2-1/2 packs a day works out to around $600 a month nowadays.

 

[johncap523]

Yes, my first car payment, for my first car, NEW, was $69 a month. 2-1/2 packs a day works out to around $600 a month nowadays.

And that was a 24 month car loan! With like $250 down.

 

[shift_RUSH]

Smoking is bad, m'kay.
~ Mr Mackey

 

[johncap523]

Smoking is bad, m'kay.
~ Mr Mackey

Yes, yes it is, either for a human or a car, except for after sex...

 

[shift_RUSH]

I asked an airhead blonde if she smoked after sex...and she said she had never looked.

 

[johncap523]

I asked an airhead blonde if she smoked after sex...and she said she had never looked.

Understandable, most people don’t know where the smoke is coming from.

 

[un_mestizo]

@dwtalk Would your kit work on a 2011 SL? No screen currently on this model, but it has the RF system

 

[dwtalk]

Posting the parts here that someone would need if they want to do this on their own. I sold through the radio's I had, so am going to centralize some more information here about the parts needed for the conversion. As promised, when I sold through, I would upload additional details if someone wanted to do it themselves.

1. Nissan factory head unit:
2591A5UD0A or 2591A5UD0B

2. 20-pin female harness with any needed added wire.

3. The 20-pin male harness with wires needed.

4. A 40-pin custom harness

5. 2 x Nissan USB connectors for the back of the unit (you may already have one in the back of your unit). These came from a supplier in China and took two months to arrive, FYI.

6. A programmed board and a soldered Arduino mega board for the analog to digital conversion of steering wheel controls and a breadboard with 1k resistors for each steering wheel channel hooked to the analog input 0 and 1. You also need aSeeed studio CAN-Bus Shield V2 to create the Nissan media can-bus, these parts require programming and soldering. Once completed it will look something like below. I put a home-made case around mine eventually.

The wires are:
Incoming Steering Switch A - blue
Incoming Steering Switch B - white
Incoming Steering Ground - black
Power - ACC
Ground
Outgoing Media Can-H
Outgoing Media Can-L

7. Camera re-wiring and install instructions. This was actually harder than I expected so I documented it all and will provide photos/instructions.
Instructions available here: AA-AC Frontier Upgrade - Camera
I did see that newer vehicles 2017+ may have a 'camera det' on the wiring diagram. This may be a solid shield all the way to the camera. Someone with a 2017+ would need to poke around to verify.

8. Antenna connectors. The receiver supports an amplified antenna, but we will use it in a non-amplified manner as the frontier has a long antenna.
Showing the difference here. Need one on left, frontier on right. This seems impossible to find, but I have two of them if someone is interested in purchasing.

9. Secret menu access instructions to input the correct values for the backup camera. I did some research and had to figure these all out. There are secret screens to modify the unit from acting like a car backing up to new data to act like a crew cab wide radius frontier backing up. I'll post up in a bit.

What you may want/need still:

OPTIONAL: A dash mount USB plug (to replace a 12v outlet on passenger side). I purchased the item below off of ebay and it worked well after a shim.
USB AUX Adapter Socket 3.5mm Jack Car Dashboard Mounted Extension Cable MA1101 | eBay

OPTIONAL: A amp level to factory amp audio converter such as the SCOSCHE SLC4 (needed if you have a factory rockford amp or aftermarket amp that requires line-level). I turned the gain all the way down on mine and it works great with rockford.

Open items to be aware of:
The diagnostics of the unit will report Combination meter not working 100% since we are just imitating it
The antenna will report an open circuit as we are not using an amplifier and don’t hook up the 12v power to the radio amp (not needed unless you want a shark fin antenna)
I am not sure what would happen in NissanConnect, thinking this feature won’t work

 

[dwtalk]

To get into the secret menu of the radio, you hold down MENU and then push the volume button in and turn the wheel left 90 degrees then right 90 degrees a few times.

Once in, you can get to advanced configuration screens such as this:

The settings we will need to update are for the camera. Specifically these values need to be changed from the Sentra to fit a crew-cab frontier.

They are mostly measurements in mm which I determined by actually measuring the vehicle.

Width: 1849

Wheelbase: 3198

Rear overhang: 1270 (measured from center of axle, about 50” till end of bumper)

Max Steering Wheel Angle: 630 (one and ¾ turns)

Radius Turning Fact: 150 (just over 30% more than Sentra. Curb to curb on sentra is 34.8ft and crew cab frontier is 43.6ft) -- I had to guess here, maybe needs refinement.

CamX offset: 89 (we are about 3.5” left of center on tailgate)

CamY offset: 165 (we are about 6.5” above vehicle height midpoint)

CamZ offset: 1130 (overhang minus 5.5” for bumper)


Others:

Min front tire change: 1 (I may update this to 2 in the future so not as sensitive on when to kick in the anticipatory line)

 

[Dajinn]

Appreciate you posting the info for others to see if they want to attempt it later on their own.