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Z1 oversized brakes for 2024 P4X

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#1 ·
Hello All,
I am the proud owner of a 2024 Frontier P4X. I pull a mid-size tear drop trailer (2k pounds) and have no problems doing so. However, even with a Redarc brake controller and good electric trailer brakes, stopping is definitely more of a chore. Z1 offers a oversized brake kit that looks interesting. I guess my reluctance in “pulling the trigger” is that replacement parts are ONLY available through Z1 (not offense to Z1) intended. Has anyone installed the oversized kit and can parts be obtained in case Z1 would stop selling the kit? Thanks!!
 
#2 ·
Yes the parts are only through Z1 with the exception of the brake pads. Once you know what type of brake pads they are you can get them from a local auto parts store.

With that said I would recommend going a different route. One available option to you that would make a little bit of a difference is going with the V8 Pathfinder brakes up front. It is a bolt-on upgrade that simply requires either V8 Pathfinder brake calipers or 370Z base model front calipers with the V8 Pathfinder front rotors. It will bring the rotor diameter up by one inch. That alone on a stock Frontier will make a huge difference in braking performance.

Another thing you could do is go with a different set of brake pads. Whether you decide to do this with your factory brakes or not is all up to you. Me personally I went with EBC yellow stuff for the front and rear with a factory style rotor for the front and rear. Keep in mind I also have the V8 Pathfinder brakes on my truck. I don't usually tow with my vehicle, but it made a big difference.
 
#11 ·
Yes the parts are only through Z1 with the exception of the brake pads. Once you know what type of brake pads they are you can get them from a local auto parts store.

With that said I would recommend going a different route. One available option to you that would make a little bit of a difference is going with the V8 Pathfinder brakes up front. It is a bolt-on upgrade that simply requires either V8 Pathfinder brake calipers or 370Z base model front calipers with the V8 Pathfinder front rotors. It will bring the rotor diameter up by one inch. That alone on a stock Frontier will make a huge difference in braking performance.

Another thing you could do is go with a different set of brake pads. Whether you decide to do this with your factory brakes or not is all up to you. Me personally I went with EBC yellow stuff for the front and rear with a factory style rotor for the front and rear. Keep in mind I also have the V8 Pathfinder brakes on my truck. I don't usually tow with my vehicle, but it made a big difference.
I went with the EBC yellow stuff bads and EBC GD rotors when I did the V8 front brake upgrade to my 2006 Pathfinder V6 and found them a little too aggressive, made a lot of brake dust and wore out in 20,000 miles. I think the green stuff pads might be better as an EBC option. Since the Pathfinder is totalled, I plan on swapping the front brakes over to my Xterra and I'm going with PowerStop Z36 carbon-fiber ceramic, Truck and Tow pads.
 
#5 ·
Parts are probably available everywhere for the Z1 kit once somebody finds out who actually manufactures it. It’s not like they have their own brake parts factory.
 
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#10 ·
I agree, I've towed over 5k# twice, 600 miles each time and had no issues stopping, with a twin-axle enclosed UHaul with surge brakes. I'm not sure I understand how many folk are dogging on the Frontier brakes as being inadequate or actually dangerous, I've had mine now for nearly 8 yrs and have zero complaints, with average quality pads. I think that many of the alleged issues are either bad pad choices or failures in bleeding procedure. My brakes are consistent and reliable.
 
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I'm surprised by your comment about a 2000 lb trailer causing a noticable change in braking. I have a Redarc inertia controller and tow a 3200 lb R-Pod. I barely notice it's there, other than fuel mileage, that is. There is definately no challenge to the brakes. Before you spend money, check and/or adjust/rebuild your trailer brakes. I run my controller at 5+/- a little. The setting varies with pavement condition (wet ...) and trailer brake temp.

That said, you never drive towing like you would empty. A gentle hand and lots of patience are needed. My Frontier has so much engine that 70 mph is easy, but might not be wise; 60 to 65 is smarter.

I live in E TN. I've never driven a D*dge, but it may well have more aggressive or higher boosted brakes. Based on my experience (24k in 10 mos and a disaster trip to WV and TX Hill Country), I cannot imagine you ever faded the brakes in PA, anywhere.
 
#16 ·
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I understand what you are saying. I have zero issues pulling my TAB 320 with the P4X other than coming down steep hills. Coming back from our trip, I took the trailer over to nuCamp service center in Ohio (manufacturer of the TAB). They checked my trailer brakes and said they were properly adjusted and working well. The Redarc is set for “5” and I can tell it is slowing the trailer. However, as stated earlier, my P4X (by itself) seems “spongy” when braking (no trailer attached). That is why I asked Nisssan service to comment when I was having an oil change. It was the dealer mechanic that said the P4X brakes are fine but Nissan brakes have always been “mushy” feeling. I don’t feel that there is a danger but when traveling through much higher passes out west, I want to make sure I have better brakes. Either different pads, as one suggested, or larger brakes….
 
#17 ·
Understandable, but realize you came from a Big size truck to a midsize so I suspect that's what you became used to. Do what you think you need to, while being safe about it all. Brakes are a critical component and I get weary doing aftermarket on critical components that were never design for the particular vehicle. Be aware the Mao boys don't care if you live or die, far less standards then most.
 
#18 ·
OP, using Tow Mode reduces the need for braking on descents to the point it's hard to imagine overheating them. I don't know how you measured stopping distances of the Ram vs the Frontier but your results seem unusual. I do agree the Frontier doesn't have that firm initial grab of some.