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oof am I the only one that hates the new adaptive cruise control...

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#1 · (Edited)
Had my new pro4x for about 5 months now and haven't taken it on a long trip myself. My wife did a couple of months ago and mentioned how bad the cruise control was but I didnt think much about it until we took it for a longer trip couple weeks ago. I have driven other cars with adaptive cruise (toyota) and thought that will be nice to have on a longer drive since it paces you from the car in front. That is how it works unless you swing out from the lane to pass, instead of a gradual speed up it acts like I'm in a Fast and Furious movie and floors it. Maybe its just my unit but it really does not need to be that aggressive when you need to speed back up to the set point. Looks like I am going to have to switch it off (I hope I can disable it) and just return to normal cruise, not sure how they could mess something like that up so bad, I like the truck for the most part, rides well and is comfortable.

I dunno, am I the only one that has noticed this?


Edit sorry I should have posted this to the main cruise control thread...not just me but looks like nothing has been done to correct the issue, sigh.
 
#7 ·
Yeah the normal cruise can be a little aggressive especially in hills or mountains, but to be honest cruise control on in those areas is not a good idea especially if there are curves involved. It surprised me going up a steep bridge once. I turned it off and used my foot. Otherwise the normal cruise works perfect for me.
 
#13 ·
Yessir, because up to a few years ago, no/few vehicles had any rate or ramp setting for "resume". Even now not many do... but suspect that is WHY some do. Cruise control on every other vehicle since at least some decades ago worked this way. On, off, & now. You are either going at the set speed or nah. No settings for gradual. Every brand has a complaint about aggressive cruise somewhere online. For each model, there are some that do and some that don't act aggressive. Enter variables! Without a ramp setting, this will continue to bite someone somewhere. My take anyway.

Mentioned before, but reminded now. A fun way to scare yourself into never doing it again is with a vehicle with actual good power, hit resume from your lowest avail set speed. That run from about 25-40mph will scare you while it tries to kill you
 
#16 ·
My 2022 SV was really aggressive when I first bought it. It settled out quite a bit at about the 6 month point and now it isn't to bad. I don't get the 4 - 5K RPM kick ups any more. Rarely goes above 3K anymore. It just kind of magically resolved on its own.
 
#17 ·
My 23 P4X has 6K miles on it now and seems to have settled down quite a bit. Rarely kicks above 3K RPM to maintain speed. I still contend some of it has to do with the gas and knock sensors. As long as i run BP or Exxon mine does just fine. If i fill it up with Shell it goes back to its old ways. My contention is different brands of gas even at the same octane levels have differnt anti preignition qualities. My theory is knock sensors are detecting preignition and retarding timing then transmission downshifts to maintain speed, its just a chain effect of one thing controlling what something else does. Just my theory, no way of proving it one way or the other.
 
#20 ·
Some do I suppose. lol. You are reading more into it than need be. In my case if brakes are needed I'm usually the one applying them. Again, not everyone is using cruise with large sweeping changes in speed.

Think of it like this... normal cruise... you bump the speed up or down sometimes? That part is automated for me. If set for 65 and traffic slowly changes to 62, I don't even notice. Ditto for if it climbs back to 65. Its damn smooth at this. Maybe I would notice, but not care. Steady travel is more my thing.

What I do NOT do is set it for 75 and let it brake for merging traffic to 55 then jump back to 75 when lanes are changed.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Why wouldn't you just drive and pass the slower cars in front of you? What are you doing in your truck that you wouldn't want to get out of the way of slower vehicles? Or slow down more and just drive behind them? That is very easy to do with normal cruise control. Are you driving around any major cities? Just curious. So let me get this straight. You are letting the car in front you decide how fast you are going to drive? Is that right?
 
#22 ·
I have another crazy question. When all of you are letting your truck speed up and slow down for you through traffic, what are you doing with your feet? And, where are you looking? I'm guessing your hands are still on the steering wheel. What are you actually doing while your truck is driving down the road for you?
 
#24 ·
You use it the same as normal cruise control. It just adds the layer of safety of maintaining a set distance between you and the traffic ahead. This isn’t like self driving or super cruise. However you drive with regular cruise control, you do the same with adaptive. Hands on the wheel, eyes forward, feet ready to brake. What it has shown me is how poorly other people drive. I set mine for a two second cushion at 70. Every car that gets in front of me causes speed to slow down; because other drivers don’t know how the change lanes and pass safely. No one respects the 2 second cushion.
 
#26 ·
@bishoptf , thread about this as you are aware:
2022 Frontier Cruise Control issue

Have owned the truck for about 16months and have had no issues what so ever with the ACC or regular CC. All downshifts are like any other vehicle I have owned in the past, including on curves, hills, and heavy traffic. Gas milage also seems to be kept steady when ACC/CC is in use.

Those that HAVE issues with the ACC/CC should organize and inundate Nissan HQ with complaints for a software update or fix. Enough voices heard, Nissan will act?
 
#30 ·
All these "features" on the new trucks are exactly why I don't want one. Nissan put all the "features" in packages so if you want the utilitrack rails in the bed of the truck, you have to get $1,500 in "I'd rather not be the one driving the truck features". It's probably only a few years before the government is bribed into mandating these "features" just like they did with the tire pressure monitors and television screens in every dashboard for people who didn't know where their mirrors were.
I must be the only weirdo who wants a new truck with a manual, no television, no gps, no "smart" anything.
 
#31 ·
All these "features" on the new trucks are exactly why I don't want one. Nissan put all the "features" in packages so if you want the utilitrack rails in the bed of the truck, you have to get $1,500 in "I'd rather not be the one driving the truck features". It's probably only a few years before the government is bribed into mandating these "features" just like they did with the tire pressure monitors and television screens in every dashboard for people who didn't know where their mirrors were.
I must be the only weirdo who wants a new truck with a manual, no television, no gps, no "smart" anything.
You are not alone...there are many of us around. We just embraced the SUCK sooner than you is all :ROFLMAO: Of course I keep coughing it up once in awhile as I can't keep that $h!t down very easily :LOL::giggle: Not alone my friend...not alone.
 
#35 · (Edited)
I am not overstating anything and never said Z1 did something with TCM. Low-end torque is much improved and yes that’s why it doesn’t shift as much.

That being said, I drove for an hour trying to reproduce the crazy shifting on the freeway. I couldn’t do it, not even once even if I was trying real hard.

That’s good enough for me

Edit: sorry for the double post
 
#36 ·
That's awesome, what I mostly meant was Nissan isn't going to give a perf tune. Would be more awesomerer if they did!

The language might lead one to compare what z1 is doing vs Nissan to improve cc, expecting Nissan to follow. Their solution will have to differ and be more targeted.
 
#37 ·
Ive got a question, supposedly Nissan is collecting data from our vehicles, i dont know exactly what data or to what extent, but according to My Nissan app its pretty damn accurate. Can they reverse that and actually reprogram any software in the vehicle via the airwaves? My cruise control has really settled down alot, so much so thats its not even an issue anymore. Is it just age or is Nissan siletly gradually correcting things?
 
#42 ·
I know, right?
I actually got used to using the that radar/distance feature on the adaptive CC even in heavier traffic. But I do get your drift. I'm old school too, and still get nervous having the CC even on let alone when there's traffic around. Too many idiots like me on the road :ROFLMAO: :p
 
#46 ·
Tesla can. Ford & GM can update over the air, too. That in no way is an indication that Nissan can. My guess is that Nissan has no such capability.
 
#48 ·
Are we still in context? You will not be getting any BCM programming over the air in your Frontier. Being able to receive and process a request is not equal to being able to flash program. OTA for Nissan is Cell/WiFi only if I recall - not all vehicles have that feature. You will not nor cannot update ECM via BCM connected to your infotainment screen.

Most of the OTA blanket statements for remote updates would be for EVs. The regular F-150 for example (so far?) is getting just infotainment etc updates, while Mach E is intended to get all sorts of drivability updates when avail. Even the Ford Lightning has been mostly (all?) infotainment so far.

Sad Comedy: TFL fella with an update loop draining his battery. Oof. Careful what you wish for.
 
#50 ·
Sad Comedy: TFL fella with an update loop draining his battery. Oof. Careful what you wish for.
I saw that one and heard about it on other You Tube channels as well, dealing with the new Colorado. That would suck to find your truck dead in the morning because the update couldn't finish downloading and just kept draining your battery. You would think, you should have the choice whether you want the update or not, considering it is your truck. Nope!
 
#52 ·
Nissan cant program TCM or ECM over the air. That’s fact. Yes, some stuff in the head unit can be updated but it has nothing to do with the engine or transmission behavior.

Don’t try to make us believe a Frontier is bleeding edge with tech like this because it isn’t