Front end totally demolished (no shock there, its totally plastic and fiberglass). Is there even really a "true front bumper" on the Frontier?

 

I mean look at how demolished the front end is!!! @ 35mph. THERE IS NO FRONT END LEFT! It obliterated all that plastic and fiberglass right up to the freakin' wheels!!! Mind blowing.

 

I wonder if this caused engine damage as well? If HAD to wiped out the radiator. That hood is toast as well.
I'd say that puppy is totalled!!!!

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I'd say that puppy is totalled!!!!

I’d bet money you can’t find a vehicle that can be repairable after a 35mph head on with a wall.

If you do, the crash test dummy isn’t feeling well.

 

For Reference as well. Nice to see what Star ratings the truck gets after watching the videos above.

Full report from NHTSA.GOV:

https://nrd-static.nhtsa.dot.gov/reports/vehdb/v10000/v14000/v14071R001.pdf

 

Frontal Crash was an EPIC fail! (although you would have probably survived it)

 

....(although you would have probably survived it)

And honestly, that's the most important part. None of us want to lose our vehicle to a crash, but the fact that the truck protected the occupants as well as it did, makes me feel great. I'd definitely be upset if my truck got totaled out, but at least I'd be around to complain about it!!!

 

I wonder if that gray Frontier was considered "totalled" after that front end crash @ 35mph.
I'd say so, no way they could reconstruct all of that.

 

What’s interesting is the side impact is rated at 5 stars for both front and rear seats, but IIHS has a lower rating because the rear seat side impact causes the head to contact the C pillar: 2022 Nissan Frontier Crew cab pickup

 

Let me share with you for one who survived front crash in my 2018 Frontier SV. here is link to video below. 40ish to 0 in less than single car length. Yes, my little frontier was totaled. But the fact I walked away with extremely minor injuries is all worth losing the truck. Yeah, it is messed up, yes it looks bad, yes, it is a loss of a lot of money.

But here I am also with my kids today at the beach in my new frontier. A better, safer, nicer truck than I had before. Yes, God looked after me and kept me safe and blessed me with a better truck than I had before.

let me know if this link does not work
492022 car accident.mp4

These are not NHTSA crash test photos; these are real life testimony photos of how well these little Nissan Frontiers are built to keep you safe inside.

totaled due to 13,000 of visible this needs to be replaced estimate. Plus, air bags went off, and who knows what damaged underneath was.

And here we are, my twins and I, at the beach in a newer, safer, better, nicer Nissan Frontier.

 

Where did the video come from (who took the video)?

Who was "at fault" in that accident?

 

Why was everybody else stopping? I can see why the the other guy was at fault but all those other cars stopping lead him to believe it was OK to turn. If those other cars were not stopping for a very good reason, they should have been held accountable as well.

One more thing, when you see traffic stopping for no reason, you should slow way down until you figure out why they are stopping. What if that had been a child instead of a Tahoe.

 

A similar situation resulted in my motorcycle accident years ago. Traffic had stopped, someone being courteous waved a vehicle that was making a left across a two-lane road...just as I was approaching. Neither of us could see the other until it was too late. It's why I don't wave anyone through (I won't block an intersection but they're on their own to decide whether it's safe), and I try to avoid having to cross when traffic is backed up...and why I no longer ride a motorcycle, as well.

 

Great observation, yes, they for sure misled the other driver. He should have never turned no matter what until the south bound cleared up, not sure what his big hurry was. Yes, I could/should have slowed down. We see traffic like this all the time. lanes slow for no apparent reason. As far as a passenger's period in the Tahoe yes, I am happy there was none. But up until that point traffic was flowing and started to slow down not far back from where i hit him anyways. Just normal southbound Saturday afternoon traffic. all hindsight today. In the end he was clearly at fault I had clear right of way in front of me. and from my point of view left lanes were stopping for nothing as you see those vehicles slow then go. up until that is right when he turned.

 

Misuse of "epic fail" in my wording. I was just saying how a 35mph front crash test totally destroyed the front of that Frontier (compared to the crash tests of some others). Wasn't an epic fail in possibly saving the driver/passengers lives, but damn, that truck is probably totalled from a 35mph crash.

 

I get it - it's pretty shocking to see how much damage was done.

 

Unfortunately, there is no front view of the Frontier after the 35mph crash (probably embarassed to show it).
I would say that the radiator was toast, as well as some kind of engine damage as well.

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Unfortunately, there is no front view of the Frontier after the 35mph crash (probably embarassed to show it).
I would say that the radiator was toast, as well as some kind of engine damage as well.

I can almost guarantee the radiator, AC condenser, and anything mounted in front of the engine is heavily damaged. The engine itself likely suffered at least some damage, maybe not to the block itself but surely the bolt-on components on the front (which hopefully didn't cause damage to the attachment points). 35 MPH is a huge hit to an immovable object like a wall, bridge pillar, etc. A good indicator of just how hard that 35 MPH hit was is the severe damage to the frame rails just behind the lower control arms (you can really see the frame rails deform in the video). Once again, this is an engineered function to help absorb the energy and not transfer it to the occupants.

One thing to remember is that the plastic bumper, grille, and other bolt-on components serve little function other than cosmetics and aerodynamics. While there is a metal bumper support behind the fascia (aka bumper cover), it is also designed to absorb energy in low-impact collisions. This may cause cosmetic damage that can look pretty bad, but prevents the airbags from deploying for "minor" incidents, which increases the likelihood of the vehicle being considered "repairable" rather than a total loss.

If you can't already tell, I find it fascinating to see how vehicle safety has advanced to the point where what once would have resulted in severe injury or death now would likely result in some aches and pains. I was always a believer that the old "tanks" would fare better, but my experience over the past seventeen years have proven that is not the case.

Now, if we could just get people to wear their damn seat belts....

 

You will note that the bulk of damage was prior to cab... which is the goal. The question would be if something crumples too easy, which is the concern here. Might be telling to see data from different speeds - I admit to not reading the file.

 

It's all economics at this point. The price of the truck is minuscule compared to the cost of medical care. Ins companies don't really even care about the cost of the vehicle- they want cars that people can walk away from after a wreck.

 

I hate losing all that money on a totaled vehicle. But i did enjoy walking away from the accident. I thank God I walked away safe as He had my back even without Nissans help. I give KUDOS to Nissan for designing a safer Frontier. Every frontier i have seen involving the front-end collision ended up just like mine a big accordion.

 

This is every modern car, the front end just explodes on impact. It's just the way it is. The cars take way more damage but the occupants are safer. Also that truck is 100% totaled. General rule of thumb for adjustors is if the airbags popped and/or it rolled - the car is totaled regardless of its value in relation to possible repairs.

I love my RS, and the Juke has good crash test ratings overall, but I definately think sometimes how screwed I would be in an accident with like a big lifted full sized truck. The Juke was built for the JDM and they don't have the frequency of big cars over there that we do here. It's a tough little unibody but getting into a high speed tango with a 6500lb truck at 40+mph means I'm gonna have a baaaad day. There are also a lot of new houses and businesses going up around here and cement trucks and dump trucks are all over. Getting into an accident with a cement truck in a Juke seems like a bad idea.

I think car sizes in the USA are getting ridiculous honestly. I don't know what the solution is but there needs to be one. I think we just need to make wagons cool again, because let's be real, 90% of full sized truck owners would be better served by a wagon.

 

Info on the Gen 2 Frontier for those interested.

2017 Nissan Frontier Crew cab pickup

2017 Nissan Frontier Crew cab pickup - small pickup

www.iihs.org

 

Next up, Toyota Tacoma crash test...Anybody ?

 

Pfft, not even a scratch.

2023 Toyota Tacoma Crew cab pickup

2023 Toyota Tacoma Crew cab pickup - small pickup

www.iihs.org

 

The Tacoma has "marginal" crash ratings. Even the bed detached!!!

Now, you can't tell me these trucks didn't suffer some kind of engine damage as well . . .

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I often wondered... Does the consumer ultimately pay the price for all these trucks used for crash tests? Is the cost of crash vehicles ultimately wrapped into the final price of our trucks we buy?

 

IIHS buys the vehicles from dealers, I believe the NHSTA does too, manufacturers do not provide them; this is to prevent selective sample bias. Manufacturers all have their own crash facilities used for internal testing, but those results are rarely, if ever, published.

I'm sure in a way yes you're paying for the vehicles the manufacturers crash. Just like in a way people payed for Carlos Gnosn to stuff himself into a shipping crate and FedEx himself out of Japan.

 

Looks like Frontier crash test more tidy than Tacoma.😳

 

That is what I was thinking.