wow 2008 clunker? Thats a cool peice of info..

 

Cash for clunkers was the biggest scam on the American public in a long time. It didn't help a thing with the economy, just removed a lot of good used vehicles from the selection pool. Not to mention all the wasted parts that could have been collected.

 

cash for clunkers helped a hand full of people that were going to buy a new car anyway, and a bunch of pick and pulls. yeah, the motors where toasted, but you can get an E4OD for about $100 now.

 

Parts from the cash for clunkers cars were not supposed to end up in bone yards. A lot of them did (thankfully) but the gov't mandate was to crush/shred all cars not salvage them.

CARS.gov - Car Allowance Rebate System - Dealer Traditional Marketing Material - CARS (Car Allowance Rebate System): Advertising Usage Guidelines - Formerly Referred to as “Cash for Clunkers”

 

what i heard and have read is that major drivetrain parts were not allowed to be resold in junkyards (motor, trans, axles), other parts were allowed.

 

the hole ahole idea is the governent wants all the gas cars off the road and impelment battery power,check to see how much rebates there giving on battery cars you will be amazed

 

this isnt such a bad idea in its entirety, it would help our dependence on the middle east

 

Just wait and see how well those electric cars do when they are 10 years old and no one will buy a used one because it requires an $8000 battery.

 

CU Re-evaluates a 2002 Toyota Prius with 206,000mi - Kansas City Gas Prices

 

Bumper sticker idea..

"I can't afford a new car, I just bought 750,000 of them"

Thanks for dragging out another example of a depressing time and era for our country. Just love it how taxpayers helped others buy a new car. Can't wait for 2012.

 

Can't wait for 2012.

No kidding! :censor:

Tax rebates on electric vehicles were up to $7,500 out here in California. In addition, for a while they were able to get a special permit for carpool only lanes allowing them to drive in those lanes with only 1 person (the driver). Those cares with the sticker have on average a $4,000 markup with private party sales in the used market.

 

cash for clunkers wasn't a bad idea, believe it or not people with REAL clunkers made out well. you can't blame the gov't for the idiots who clunkered thier 01 pathfinder for a prius. i just couldn't believe some of the vehicles idiots brought in to that program, where as if they just traded in i am sure they could of gotten more money for the trade in than what the clunkers program would of gave them.

 

To an individual with a POS car that already planned on buying a brand new car, sure, it may have worked in their favor. To the rest of us that pay taxes, we got screwed on the deal. It did not stimulate sales the way it was intended to do, people just bought vehicles during the program. Once it ended, there was a lack of sales. On top of that, There were only 690,000 new cars sold under the program which cost taxpayers 3 billion dollars. Only 125,000 of those would not have sold anyway without the program. That's $24,000 per new car sold for the extra 125000 cars. Way to go gov't spending! I can think of 3 billion ways that money could have been better spent.

Cash for Clunkers: more of a failure than previously thought - Mass SNAFU

Cash for Clunkers costs taxpayers $24,000 per car - Oct. 28, 2009

 

I participated in Cash 4 Clunkers. I purchased a car in Virginia for $8,000 off sticker with all the rebates and incentives.

I don't know if you guys were aware, but the 2009 Obama Economic Stimulus Package also let new car buyers write off the sales tax on Federal returns. This included all the Cash 4 Clunker deals.

 

On behalf of all Americans, I'd like to personally thank and congratulate you on your good fortune. It should feel good that you contributed generously to this....
U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

 

If the U.S. had rebates for diesel cars and pushed that technology instead of electric, I'd agree with it. In Europe, you can buy a VW with a turbo diesel that gets 70 MPG and has better acceleration than the Prius.

Because of our government's hatred of diesels, in 12 years, all 2002(if i remember correctly) and older heavy diesel trucks will have to be scrapped (holes drilled in block). The industry can not afford this.

Now they're trying to go after the farmers too. Many I do work for have said that they can't purchase the new Tier IV equipment, it's just too expensive.

They seem to have missed that diesels produce less CO2 and NOx emissions than gas. Yes diesels produce particulates, but most particles are so heavy they immediately fall to the ground.

Diesels also get shafted with the emissions scale. Take the Ford diesels for example. In 2004, the 6.0L produced 10% of the emissions of the 7.3L. The 6.4L, 10% of the 6.0. And the 6.7L, 10% less than the 6.4. At idle in downtown LA, the air coming out the tail pipe of the 6.7 is cleaner than the air it's taking it. ****ing diesel powered air purifier.

 

now, dont start confusing people with annoying facts.
Diesel trucks of the 60s and 70s blow big clouds of black smoke in the air and that is what every diesel does. besides they are LOUD, gotta be a good 200 dB by my calibrated ear.

 

You heard incorrectly then. After you crush/shred a car there aren't any usable parts left.