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Best Effective Gear Ratio?

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#1 ·
Been dabbling with the idea of re gearing my 2020 for some time and I think I will take the plunge with the holiday sales. Do I really need it? No. I am not really looking to recover my MPGs either as I will be eventually installing a truck camper that will live on the truck that is ~350lbs. I just want my acceleration back haha. Not like I lost much to begin with.

Found several calculators that are very thorough like this one, but even with all the info from the press kit, I am missing some data points. Somewhere else I found a simpler equation where you just take the larger diameter and divide it by the original diameter, then multiply by the stock ratio and this will give you the required gear ratio. I don't know enough to know how accurate this method is, but seems to be good enough.

Now, I may be over complicating this, but when I'm looking to divide by the original diameter, which do I use in my case? I have a PRO4X that comes stock with 31.6" but all other trims have 30.6". I'm thinking of just using the smaller diameter to give me plenty of wigging room. Here's the numbers that came up for both...

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Also should mention that I am very likely going with Yukon's offerings at Alldogs. Going from 30.6" to 32.8" gives me 3.96 which points me to the 4.11 option. That little extra should be plenty for when I get that extra weight, or if I ever decide to go with a true 33" tire (number there ends up at 3.99). I just better plan to never get 35s because my effective ratio from 30.6" would be 4.22. If I ever decide to go up to 34s. however, then I'm looking at 4.10 which would still be good with 4.11 gears.

Has anyone here re geared their truck and if so, how low did you go?

I went to a shop that mainly does Jeeps but they know what there are doing when it comes to re gearing. In fact, what sold me is that the guy was kinda questioning my decision to re gear, instead of saying "hell yes we'll re gear no problem, that'll be $1,200" he broke down some scenarios. He wanted to know my RPMs at cruising speed, which I didn't know at the time but think that's why he was making sure I wanted to go this route as re gearing brings up your RPMs. I gave him a wild guess of 1500 and he said that was really low, so I later tested it on a flat stretch of highway and wasn't totally off. For the record, my RPMs are more or less the following, but consider I already have 285/75R16 on her...

1500RPM @ 60MPH
1750RPM @ 70MPH
2000RPM @ 80MPH
2250RPM @ 90MPH
 
#2 ·
Regearing (both) rear & front diffs gets expensive real quick. Your front diff has some limitations, IIRC.
I'd find a way to test fit some taller tires - as your 9-sp trans might just cope well as it is. The old 5-sp is a different animal.
 
#3 ·
Do you have or will you ever have an M205 front diff? Your stock R180 diff can only be regeared to 4.10. 3.692 to 4.10 is not a large difference.

The truck I regeared was a 6-speed manual, I went from 3.692 to 4.56 initially, but I had problems with a bearing so I had it redone. Between the first and second gear swaps, I did the timing and idle bump to my truck and after doing those, I decided to opt for 4.10 on the second go-round. 4.10 felt good to me at first but I missed the fun of 4.56. The only thing I disliked about 4.56 was the exhaust noise from running 2700 at 70. But, that's just the 6 speed.

You could regear to 4.56 and the 9-speed still won't be revving very high at all. That's just the nature of that top 9th gear. If you don't mind going the M205 route, I'd do so and go 4.56 personally. 9th gear at 70 mph will still only rev like 2000 rpm with 4.56.

If you don't want to do 4.56 & M205, I'd stick to the stock 3.692 because going to 4.11 is really not worth the cost. 4.56 will add some nice acceleration and will still work fine on the highway. Only downside is the added cost of the required M205.
 
#5 ·
Pizza cutter what?
255/85R16 is a 33.1" tire and only available E-rated so you're looking at a 50-60lb tire.
235/85R16 is 31.7" (essentially stock) and 50lbs.
Switching to 17" wheels gives you
255/75R17, my current choice, 32.1", lots of c-rated options thanks to Jeep. many options at 40-50lbs.
255/80R17 is back to an e-rated only, 33.1", 50+ lbs per tire.

I've been running the 255/75s (K02s) for years on the frontier, ran the same size on a 4Runner. I'm thinking i'll just go back to stock sized 265/70R17s when i get tires again. I really haven't found the benefit of running the "pizza cutter" setup. The item i always suggest when tire shopping is switching from 16s to 17s just to open up many more tire size and style options, including many c-rated options.