It works great, but I did have one issue. I had mine set at mid-sport and for some reason my truck would not go into 9th gear. On a long straight, flat road, I was running 60 and 2200 RPMs. In town, it would be great, but for a long trip, it hurt my mileage. I'm in the country so long drives are my norm.

Still, for sporting around stop light to stop light, it works great! I will let mine go reasonably, if you want to give it a go.

 

I have a Shiftpower. Same thing.
Youtube has a few good videos on it. I have no problems. No one knows it's there., I'm not using the display, just the phone app. I can change settings on the fly with no weird quirks.

 

I'd like to, but way too expensive for what it does. That's just my opinion however.

 

What it does is make your truck FASTER from a dig. Is it worth the money, thats for you to decide...

 

https://www.clubfrontier.org/threads/banks-pedal-monster.389765/?post_id=4160818#post-4160818

 

Dunno what “a dig” is, but no it doesn’t. It changes throttle mapping making it feel faster with less throttle input. That’s it.

 

A dig is from a complete stop.

 

I want to know if anyone has used it for eco mode. After 20 years on a gen 1, the gen 3 feels super peppy. No off-roading for me, no get up and go in a hurry either. I just do the occasional hardware or lawn supply run, otherwise suburban driving. I am perfectly fine with slow gentle acceleration. No morning or afternoon rush traffic, I am a computer nerd that works from home.

So, has anyone used an accelerator modifier on a gen 3 for eco mode?

 

What it does is make your truck FASTER from a dig.

Which is useless cause the damn traction control is too sensitive & cuts your throttle. Combined with no weight in the bed makes for SLOWER response from a dig. You have to feather it. However if you have traction, the throttle controllers can be fun.

 

With all do respect MrDad... Learn what throttle lag and tubro lag really means. GMC, Ford, Ram, Nissan ALL set their (Tip in) Tables based upon one fact and one fact only. And That is MPG listed on the Monroney. The (CAFE) law is proposed to still remain on the books, but no longer will be enforced after July of 2025. With most modern tubros today having little to no lag time I'm gussing we will see 0-60 times shrink by a second or 2 in 2026 and beyond. Can someone explain to Mr. Dad that throttle boosters Can Not change the manufacturer tables for EGO mode. The only way to do that is to have a professional tune installed onto the ECM by someone like me. There is SOO much great info. on this site to be learned by us all. Then on the other side, I guess we have some on here who still believe in old wives' tales simple because someone on here Swears Its True.

 

You might have misunderstood him. In spite of whatever built in lag there is... he is ok with it. In fact, if it helps him avoid throttle input he is game for more. At no point did he wish for better 60' times or mention turbos. To the point, will it be more economical for someone that already drives economically? Nah. But we can point it out without the extra bits.

 

Nope didn't misunderstand him at all. If you read his last post he wants to turn his Frontier pickup truck in to a truck that can gets 35 miles to the gallon. It's a truck... it was designed by engineers to be a truck. Don't try to reinvent the wheel you want to get 35 MPG go buy a Kia. Very Simple. But thanks for chiming in.

 

I don't think it relevant to explain to him about turbo lag... especially to try and make a point about a thing he didn't ask. He also didn't mention 35mpg. Your mention about being faster from a dig by having this device is why he would question if an "eco" mode is more efficient than without. Logic being, if one settings makes the truck faster, another might slow it down. Many might equate slower as more efficient. That is my read of his question anyway. Unless he lacks self control, and doubt he does, I can't see these being better for mpgs on any eco type setting anyway.

To your question, no I haven't. Can see where one would appreciate the drivability. Also, throttle lag seems to compound situational trans behaviors with gear selection. Probably feels more fun too, but doubt it is reflected in track times... but hardly anyone in meaningful volume is going to do that since it's just a truck.

 

No it may, or not be relevant in track time. But we have to compare apples to apples. So cars are built to either drag race or to be a track car they're two different animals two different setups two different goals in mind at the end of the day. However if you've ever drag raced, Races Are Won by a tenth of a second... you guys go ahead and believe whatever it is you think is true and be happy with it and live your life. I happen to know differently. I believe that I'm a person who talks the talk but also walks the walk. But so many on here are so adamant that they know better because people just don't want to understand how things truly work. It certainly is true that when your foot is pushed to the floor you will eventually utilizing 100% of the throttle being open. On a stock setup let's say for the sake of argument the time it takes to open a throttle from 0% to 100% hypothetically takes 1.25 seconds. A throttle booster decreases that time from 0% to 100% from 1.25 seconds to .75 seconds which is .50 or a 1/2 sec.faster. Meaning that you achieving full wide open throttle and full Power sooner and are In reality actually leaving faster than you would if you use your manufacturers stock tune. Again this is not rocket science guys use common sense and understand how these things work. So let's recap opening the throttle faster from a dead stop means that the car with the throttle booster will move ahead by hypothetically say a half a car length from the stock tune car. That denominator will stand throughout the quarter mile race. Or let me put it to you another way when you drag race there's something called "Reaction Time" reaction time wins races by getting your foot off the brake the millisecond that light turns green and of course sooner than your opponent. Has anybody ever heard of power braking a car with a turbo to get into boost sooner by tricking the ECM into believing that it is hauling a heavy load that needs to have Boost applied sooner. Has anybody ever heard back in the day of advancing the timing on a car when you're racing at the drag strip. Do you think by advancing the timing on a car you're increasing horsepower or Torque if you do, I've got news for you you're wrong. If I'm able to get a half car lengths advantage immediately upon leaving from a dead stop where the two cars are exactly the same... same horsepower same torque curve I will still maintain that half length Advantage all the way to the end of the quarter mile and win the race. Theoretically true but understanding that two of exactly the same Cars one may be a little bit more powerful than the other This is the problem with our society today nobody uses Common Sense anymore. One thing I'm becoming very aware of that there seems to be an awful lot of trolls on this website. God bless and have a good day guys I'm out...🤯 so please, no need to reply back you will just be ignored. Enough is enough.

 

I'm having a hard time understanding why such an insignificant reply by @MrDad who wasn't challenging anyone, sparked this weirdly heated debate.
He just asked a simple question about an Eco mode. Said nothing about specific MPGs or anything.

I get it, you seem to know what you're talking about, OP, but I think your passion is kind of coming out in a toxic way. Especially by the end of your post here, about ignoring someone for responding? Well I guess put me on ignore. It'd be an awful shame someone could have the secret answer to a problem you have down the road and wouldn't see their response.

What was your intended outcome of this thread? I can't be bothered to understand all the nuances of these types of devices, but I do know generally what they do.

 

Pride does odd things.

WRONGLY called a guy out, cant take the feedback. Brags about self doubling down. Takes ball and goes home.

Maybe it's insecurities

 

Personally I have never been a fan of the throttle controllers. This is simply due to the fact that it lies to the ECM/PCM About actual throttle input. I know when I first got my tune from Z1 the throttle map was setup so bad that when I was at cruising speed I would have to mash the throttle to even get a little acceleration. I messaged Z1 about it and got that switch to have a more 1:1 linear ration for the throttle pedal to throttle body allowing me to get better control of the throttle as if I had a cable. Makes driving much easier and easier to get fair MPG when I want

 

Yikes, I had no intentions on sparking such a heated debate.

Maybe if I add some context, my question about an eco mode makes sense.

Drove a gen 1 for 20 years. We know that those trucks are notoriously sluggish. Our household also has a Prius and a hybrid Lexus RX. Both hybrids have eco, standard, and power modes. These modes, I am guessing, do exactly what Pedal Monster, and similar devices, do: they tell the computer to allow more or less accelerator pedal movement. The accelerator on both hybrid cars feels mushy in eco mode, and very responsive in power mode. Yes, the intent is to give you better MPG, but that’s not the reason I want my gen 3 Frontier to behave like having an eco mode.

As I said, most of my driving is suburban roads, no need to jump off from a red light, no need to quickly accelerate and merge into morning traffic. I just want a gentle smooth start. My foot has driven more than 500k miles on a sluggish old Frontier or on hybrids that most of the time are in standard (not power) mode, so my foot is trained to push the accelerator more than is needed on a gen 3.

Maybe, instead of saying I want an eco mode, maybe I should say I want my accelerator to be more spongy.

Am I making sense now?

(Edited for accuracy)