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The screen size it perfect - I don't want or need a jumbotron in the middle of my dash. Do people really pass on the Frontier (or any other vehicle) because of screen size?
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The screen sticking up over the dash was one of the interior items I considered a negative when deciding between the new Colorado and the Frontier. There were a couple of other interior things I didn't like on the Colorado which helped sway me to the Frontier. I also passed on looking at the new Ranger and new Tacoma when I realized their screens also went above the dash.
If Nissan is making the screen of the '25 stick above the dash I'm very glad I bought my '24.
 
I'm OK with with it not having telescoping steering wheel because I found a comfortable driving position for me. Unfortunately 1 size doesn't fit all. Question to Nissan is...tilt/telescoping SW is on most of your other vehicles...why not Frontier?

The screen size it perfect - I don't want or need a jumbotron in the middle of my dash. Do people really pass on the Frontier (or any other vehicle) because of screen size?

Steering 'feel'. Like I said in another post, steering effort has nothing to do with it being hydraulic. I don't know where people get that from. It has 'heavy' steering because that's what Nissan deigned it to feel like. They could have just as easily designed it to be feather light or anything in between. Does the steering feel like a truck? IDK, I've driven a late model full size Silverado many times and it has a lighter steering effort. Was the Silverado not truck-like steering? I'd personally like it to be boosted a bit more, but I bought a Frontier so I must not be too hung up on it. Maybe running the pump to create less steering effort would cost 0.0001 MPG and that's why we got this since they seem to do crazy things like run the alternator at a higher duty cycle on deceleration rather than constant output so as to squeeze every last mpg.

Give us a better turning radius.

The camera resolution looks like something from the 90's era Fisher-Price toy category. Doesn't have to be 4k, but at least be up to today's standards.

I think most people buy a crew cab to be able to carry passengers back there. Those rear seats need a few more degrees of recline to be even close to comfortable for more than a short hop. Maybe someone in the aftermarket will come up with some spacers to fix that.

No rear window defogger? I've had several vehicles through the decades, this is the first time since the 70's I owned a vehicle without. I'm actually surprised it's not a a requirement. We'll see how that works out this winter. Funny that one of the salesman argued with me and said it does have a rear defogger - pointing to the mirror defogger switch. It was my first time looking at a Frontier, figured the sales professional knew what he was talking about so I thought maybe Nissan figured out how to do it without heating elements in the glass? :rolleyes:

The 'drive-ability' engine/transmission mapping right off idle. Not sure what to call it. Delay, hesitation? When you step on the gas light/moderately the engine revs, the truck moves, but it's not a proportional response, it's 'lazy' for lack of a better term. If you've ever driven a vehicle with 'snow' mode enabled where they make the transmission take off in a high gear instead of 1st to avoid wheel slip - that's what this feels like. Sure, if you are heavier on the pedal the truck shoots forward. But just giving it normal pedal doesn't respond like you'd expect. I think they can sort that out better.

Sales are up 17% this year so none of this will get addressed. They'll do something important like come up with a new graphics package, call it the Hardbody AI edition, charge $2k more and ship it ;)
Great Post. So, you can solve that accelerator pedal response by installing a Pedal Commander. Look it up. Alternatively, or additionally, you can bump the idle up 50-75rpm using the CVTz50 app; look it up too. Anyway, love the analyses in your post.
 
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Not a fan of these new short wide aspect infotain screens when they are using the old aspect information. Often only using half of the real estate, leaving the rest blank or with some dumb FRONTIER graphic. Even when they stretch it like with a Map, its often not of much benefit for things used top to bottom. Increases the vertical scrolling vs a more tablet aspect ration..

My only real functionality change rant is this wide narrow trend. Except the need to put thin A/C vents on either side to fit them, thereby reducing direct airflow to the rear seats.
 
Not a fan of these new short wide aspect infotain screens when they are using the old aspect information. Often only using half of the real estate, leaving the rest blank or with some dumb FRONTIER graphic. Even when they stretch it like with a Map, its often not of much benefit for things used top to bottom. Increases the vertical scrolling vs a more tablet aspect ration..

My only real functionality change rant is this wide narrow trend. Except the need to put thin A/C vents on either side to fit them, thereby reducing direct airflow to the rear seats.
Haha exactly the wide screen is meh and the baby vents are atrocious I do like the seat graphic and look and the hood and tailgate but aside from that meh I like my 23 how it looks
 
Edit: Suspension Rant Warning, also, I know Nissan is not in any hurry

I mean, I am going to bring up something that may ruffle feathers. And don't get me wrong I love my Frontier. I really do. I have had an SE 08, Desert Runner 15, and now an SV LWB 23.

Nissan should upgrade the dang suspension and wheel well size.

The suspension "upgrade" a Pro4x gets from an SV is a joke. The locker is the only thing that had me on the fence but the long bed won out. Now they offer the Pro4x with the long bed but did superficial updates that to me don't look as nice as the 3rd gen.

Plus I am not a fan of the stock plastic fender flares. We all have our own tastes which is cool. I have considered the Bushwackers though.

The 360 cameras ARE cool.

But seriously, Nissan should update the suspension and the wheel wells.

Offer a Titanized Pro maybe? Yeah more money but it would be stock and covered under warranty.

Bring on the but you can upgrade, cut, melt, etc, comments. Lol I have and will continue to make upgrades to my newest Frontier. I know we have a great community here and targeted aftermarket support from very reputable and passionate companies so we are in a good spot. It is good to be a Frontier owner.

But it would have been nice to start with something a little better in the tire size fitment and lift ease department. Same chassis and suspension (rear has minor changes for 3rd gen) basically from 05-25.
 
Edit: Suspension Rant Warning, also, I know Nissan is not in any hurry

I mean, I am going to bring up something that may ruffle feathers. And don't get me wrong I love my Frontier. I really do. I have had an SE 05, Desert Runner 15, and now an SV LWB 23.

Nissan should upgrade the dang suspension and wheel well size.

The suspension "upgrade" a Pro4x gets from an SV is a joke. The locker is the only thing that had me on the fence but the long bed won out. Now they offer the Pro4x with the long bed but did superficial updates that to me don't look as nice as the 3rd gen.

Plus I am not a fan of the stock plastic fender flares. We all have our own tastes which is cool. I have considered the Bushwackers though.

The 360 cameras ARE cool.

But seriously, Nissan should update the suspension and the wheel wells.

Offer a Titanized Pro maybe? Yeah more money but it would be stock and covered under warranty.

Bring on the but you can upgrade, cut, melt, etc, comments. Lol I have and will continue to make upgrades to my newest Frontier. I know we have a great community here and targeted aftermarket support from very reputable and passionate companies so we are in a good spot. It is good to be a Frontier owner.

But it would have been nice to start with something a little better in the tire size fitment and lift ease department. Same chassis and suspension (rear has minor changes for 3rd gen) basically from 05-25.
I mean I wish they'd sell titan crate engines if you wanna upgrade to v8 since titans will be gone lol
 
Offer a Titanized Pro maybe? Yeah more money but it would be stock and covered under warranty.
That's a valid point. The Ranger Raptor has a wider track due to it's long travel suspension versus other Rangers. The new TuRD Pro mimics the concept with the same general suspension architecture & a different wheel offset, but at least they tried. Nissan could build a top-shelf long travel Frontier with off-the-shelf Titan parts if they wanted to, they just choose not to.
 
 
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I know this is an old thread...but I started it and I'm getting ready to end it.
I'm going to buy a 2025 Pro-4x LWB on Saturday.

Kid started college and I had to change jobs in 2024. I really didn't want to take on another vehicle.
However, only two cars in a three-person family is tough...especially when she's in town for the holidays and comes back 1st week in May for the Summer.

My new job changed physical locations and is now farther away. My 2015 LEAF gets back home with only 17 miles remaining in the battery...and that's with me turning on the heat just a couple of times for a short duration in mid 20-degree weather.

I've got to pull the trigger. I really wanted an electric truck.
Drove the Cybertruck and absolutely hated it. You simply cannot see out of the thing past the B-pillar.
The drive-by-wire 4-wheel steering was tough to get my head around. Not a big truck but my perception was that I was sitting in a Ram 2500 crew cab 8' bed.
Looked at the Rivian and its stupid money for a very small bed.
Nope, I'm back into a Frontier.
Dash refresh, orange interior accents, LED headlights, beautiful black cloth seats and a LONG BED sold me.

I'll pick it up Saturday.
I wonder if anyone would be interested if I video document the installation of all this gear, I've had in my storage room for the last 10 months?

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What a glorious day. I've never seen Android Auto until today. The integration of that on this new screen with Spotify is absolutely amazing. Having the main screen display the incredible Google Maps interface AND have Spotify on the small screen to the right is badass. Simply touching the small screen does an instant swap of the two...back and forth. I'm so lucky to have waited for the 25' model and get this well-done interface change.

I hate the tires and really don't care for the rims. I'd LOVE to swap someone for the Hardbody wheels and put actual snow/ice tires on them. I've already decided to buy this year's upgrade (T99W1-9BY3K) and put smaller tires on them. VREDESTEIN HiTrac All Season 265-60R17 should drop the truck by 1". However, the ride home was squishier than my 2023 model I leased. I wonder if the shocks are different and allow more rebound or something? It is noticeably less firm for some reason. I hope it's just the 265-70/17 tires with the large squishy sidewalls.

Hate the step rail nailing me in the chin when I try to jump up into the seat. I'll be removing the steps Tomorrow.
 

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What a glorious day. I've never seen Android Auto until today. The integration of that on this new screen with Spotify is absolutely amazing. Having the main screen display the incredible Google Maps interface AND have Spotify on the small screen to the right is badass. Simply touching the small screen does an instant swap of the two...back and forth. I'm so lucky to have waited for the 25' model and get this well-done interface change.

I hate the tires and really don't care for the rims. I'd LOVE to swap someone for the Hardbody wheels and put actual snow/ice tires on them. I've already decided to buy this year's upgrade (T99W1-9BY3K) and put smaller tires on them. VREDESTEIN HiTrac All Season 265-60R17 should drop the truck by 1". However, the ride home was squishier than my 2023 model I leased. I wonder if the shocks are different and allow more rebound or something? It is noticeably less firm for some reason. I hope it's just the 265-70/17 tires with the large squishy sidewalls.

Hate the step rail nailing me in the chin when I try to jump up into the seat. I'll be removing the steps Tomorrow.
Congrats on the new ride!
 
I know this is an old thread...but I started it and I'm getting ready to end it.
I'm going to buy a 2025 Pro-4x LWB on Saturday.

Kid started college and I had to change jobs in 2024. I really didn't want to take on another vehicle.
However, only two cars in a three-person family is tough...especially when she's in town for the holidays and comes back 1st week in May for the Summer.

My new job changed physical locations and is now farther away. My 2015 LEAF gets back home with only 17 miles remaining in the battery...and that's with me turning on the heat just a couple of times for a short duration in mid 20-degree weather.

I've got to pull the trigger. I really wanted an electric truck.
Drove the Cybertruck and absolutely hated it. You simply cannot see out of the thing past the B-pillar.
The drive-by-wire 4-wheel steering was tough to get my head around. Not a big truck but my perception was that I was sitting in a Ram 2500 crew cab 8' bed.
Looked at the Rivian and its stupid money for a very small bed.
Nope, I'm back into a Frontier.
Dash refresh, orange interior accents, LED headlights, beautiful black cloth seats and a LONG BED sold me.

I'll pick it up Saturday.
I wonder if anyone would be interested if I video document the installation of all this gear, I've had in my storage room for the last 10 months?

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Maybe not a video, but notes and comments about amp and sub placement, adapter harness(es), and sound. Oh, and pictures.
 
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What a glorious day. I've never seen Android Auto until today. The integration of that on this new screen with Spotify is absolutely amazing. Having the main screen display the incredible Google Maps interface AND have Spotify on the small screen to the right is badass. Simply touching the small screen does an instant swap of the two...back and forth. I'm so lucky to have waited for the 25' model and get this well-done interface change.

I hate the tires and really don't care for the rims. I'd LOVE to swap someone for the Hardbody wheels and put actual snow/ice tires on them. I've already decided to buy this year's upgrade (T99W1-9BY3K) and put smaller tires on them. VREDESTEIN HiTrac All Season 265-60R17 should drop the truck by 1". However, the ride home was squishier than my 2023 model I leased. I wonder if the shocks are different and allow more rebound or something? It is noticeably less firm for some reason. I hope it's just the 265-70/17 tires with the large squishy sidewalls.

Hate the step rail nailing me in the chin when I try to jump up into the seat. I'll be removing the steps Tomorrow.
The 25 and 22/23/24 Android Auto interfaces are identical. The only change is the aspect ratio, the new one is wider and shorter. Android Auto automatically scales itself to any ratio, but in my experience it's actually nicer on a more square display than a rectangular one.

That having been said, glad you're happy, just don't want people thinking they reworked the interface because they didn't - Nissan is using the same general interface across their whole lineup since 2022 and the 2025 is the same just with some tweaks for the aspect ratio.
 
The 25 and 22/23/24 Android Auto interfaces are identical. The only change is the aspect ratio, the new one is wider and shorter. Android Auto automatically scales itself to any ratio, but in my experience it's actually nicer on a more square display than a rectangular one.

That having been said, glad you're happy, just don't want people thinking they reworked the interface because they didn't - Nissan is using the same general interface across their whole lineup since 2022 and the 2025 is the same just with some tweaks for the aspect ratio.
Fair point.

An almost side topic is worth mentioning: I think they added wireless for Android Auto. Very likely the truck OS is different from several years earlier, not sure about hardware. All this matters because it has to recertify for not only wireless etc but also for AA/CP. Advantage may not be visual, but getting us to what was current in 2023 vs what was current and certified when 2022s actually hit the lots (2020?)
 
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