[johncap523]

Hi All,

My father and I are looking at "new" used 2019 frontiers today. Most of them are in the $20-24k with less than 15k on the clock. My father has made a habit of buying we many used cars that if he bought new or newish he probably would have ended up owning a third of the amount of vehicles in the last 20 years.

My question is this, is the obvious price difference between the frontier and the ranger,Tacoma etc worth it?

Or is the better option for spending the same money on an older higher mileage Tacoma or Colorado etc

I’m not sure what you mean by “is the price difference between the Frontier and Tacoma worth it”. Frontier is the absolute, hands down best value in trucks anywhere. Tacoma’s are way overpriced compared to Frontiers and Frontiers are better quality.

 

[wrenchturner]

And don’t forget, the 2019 Frontier fuel pump isn’t being recalled like the Tacoma’s.

 

[Yendor]

Here is what I can relate to you in terms of making a decision based on your initial post.
The Frontier is a TRUCK. Do you want to know the BAD....it has the worst headlights in the history of lighting the road in my opinion. Other than that....it is one Heck of a Truck.
What surprises me is how well the Vehicle dynamic control system works. You will not lose control. I really test this system in rain and slick roads ....on purpose.... and it is amazing! It puts my Subaru Outback to shame. Its 4wd system is robust and will do as well "or better in my opinion" as any Ranger or Toyota system. I have yet to get it stuck with the stock tires in many a field mud bogs on the farm.
Do you want to know what I hate... the headlights of-course along with the backup camera when the tail gate is down. Other than that....this is a real truck! If you are going to use it as a TRUCK and not a weekend pickup for antiques and paved or graveled side roads, then this is the one to get. The price diffirencial it too great to ignore. IF I were the person looking for a antique hauler, and it was a commuter and a weekend excursion to campgrounds and easily navigable dirt roads, get the Honda Ridgeline. In terms of comparison to the Toyota....there is no comparison....bang for the buck, the Frontier has the edge...(except for the headlights)!!!!! Against the Ranger....again the price comes into play. You cannot beat what you get for the price with the Frontier. Also, the Nissan 4.0 liter engine has been so proven and time tested (since 2005 in the Frontier) that it is a no brain'er. I have an old Ranger and love it. Its a great Truck. If you get the Ranger...Its Okay...you made a great decision, you may have over paid for it but if you keep it forever.... no issues. If you purchased a Frontier....again no issues, just the Fuc...ing headlights suck! However the Frontier was MUCH cheaper!

LED Headlights. $30.00 Amazon. Problem solved.

 

[john80134]

Hi All,

My father and I are looking at "new" used 2019 frontiers today. Most of them are in the $20-24k with less than 15k on the clock. My father has made a habit of buying we many used cars that if he bought new or newish he probably would have ended up owning a third of the amount of vehicles in the last 20 years.

My question is this, is the obvious price difference between the frontier and the ranger,Tacoma etc worth it?

Or is the better option for spending the same money on an older higher mileage Tacoma or Colorado etc

When it was time to replace my 06 Tacoma I looked for a better value for my money. I bought a 2016 low mileage Frontier SV and remain delighted with my choice. No it doesn't have all the creature comforts that the newest competitors have, but I was buying a truck to be used as a truck (often with a slide-in/pop-up camper). I am totally satisfied.

 

[Thomas Pham]

If I can purchase a 2019 Frontier for about 20-24k with less then 20k miles, there is no way that I would pony up the money for a used higher milage/lower year Tacoma. Tacomas are awesome little trucks, but my Frontier can do anything that a Tacoma can. I have a 2016 model with 120k on it. Only problem I had on it was the P0448 engine light (charcoal canister needed replacing) at around 118k. No other complaints except for a little rattle in the dash. Very comfortable for long road trips. Tows strong and best of all, it was cheap. I'm the original owner and I want to drive the truck till I need a new one. I take care of my vehicles so I think this one will last me more than 10 years easily.

 

[saxtech]

Here is what I can relate to you in terms of making a decision based on your initial post.
The Frontier is a TRUCK. Do you want to know the BAD....it has the worst headlights in the history of lighting the road in my opinion. Other than that....it is one Heck of a Truck.
What surprises me is how well the Vehicle dynamic control system works. You will not lose control. I really test this system in rain and slick roads ....on purpose.... and it is amazing! It puts my Subaru Outback to shame. Its 4wd system is robust and will do as well "or better in my opinion" as any Ranger or Toyota system. I have yet to get it stuck with the stock tires in many a field mud bogs on the farm.
Do you want to know what I hate... the headlights of-course along with the backup camera when the tail gate is down. Other than that....this is a real truck! If you are going to use it as a TRUCK and not a weekend pickup for antiques and paved or graveled side roads, then this is the one to get. The price diffirencial it too great to ignore. IF I were the person looking for a antique hauler, and it was a commuter and a weekend excursion to campgrounds and easily navigable dirt roads, get the Honda Ridgeline. In terms of comparison to the Toyota....there is no comparison....bang for the buck, the Frontier has the edge...(except for the headlights)!!!!! Against the Ranger....again the price comes into play. You cannot beat what you get for the price with the Frontier. Also, the Nissan 4.0 liter engine has been so proven and time tested (since 2005 in the Frontier) that it is a no brain'er. I have an old Ranger and love it. Its a great Truck. If you get the Ranger...Its Okay...you made a great decision, you may have over paid for it but if you keep it forever.... no issues. If you purchased a Frontier....again no issues, just the Fuc...ing headlights suck! However the Frontier was MUCH cheaper!

I have a 2013 CC SV with Value Truck Package that I purchased new and only has about 30,000 miles now. I don't understand what you HATE about the headlights. Can you please explain please ? My truck is equipped with Fog Lights and High Beams. What more could I want without rudely blinding other drivers on the road ?

 

[stevet]

I'm no headlight expert, I've not replaced mine, and I've not read the replacement threads in-depth. But the stock headlights are rather underwhelming. I don't like being blinded by some of the latest headlights on road, but there are some cutting edge OEM lights that really project usable light on the surface for great distances, with good light to the sides, that are friendly to oncoming traffic. The Frontier is the opposite.

I run with my fogs all the time to add light in the near distance, and urban driving is not much of an issue. But in the motorcycle realm there is a saying of out-running your headlights- riding so fast that you don't have the light on your path long enough to see and react to the conditions. I'd put the poor quality/low quantity light output of the Frontier in that same arena. Out in the dark rural areas the low beams don't provide all the light I'd expect, making it easy to nearly out run my headlights at posted speeds (I still have good night vision at 51yo). The high beams are of even lower performance than the low beams on the highways. My lights put what light output they provide in the right direction, they just lack the distance and the lumens onto the pavement.

Rural driving at night is rare for me, so I'm not planning toward an upgrade, but over the Gen II life, Nissan could have designed better lighting (reflector lens and light source) to drop into the 15-year-old headlight mount easily enough, current owners could have bought the necessary bits as an upgrade and the factory would be putting a better product on the road.

 

[wrenchturner]

I have a 2013 CC SV with Value Truck Package that I purchased new and only has about 30,000 miles now. I don't understand what you HATE about the headlights. Can you please explain please ? My truck is equipped with Fog Lights and High Beams. What more could I want without rudely blinding other drivers on the road ?

Coming from my Subaru, also with halogens, to this, I felt blind at night for about the first month. The throw isn’t nearly as far, and the color on the Frontier headlights is much warmer.