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i saw yet another post about someone being a little nervous about switching to something other than nissan fluid in their auto tranny on a 05+ frontier and i think that for alot of people here nissan atf is a touchy subject and i want to try and eliminate everyone's fears of using something other than nissan fluid or atleast give you a little more knowledge about what it is your putting into your tranny. For starters matic j, this fluid is a semi synthetic JASO 1A spec ATF actually made by Castrol and sold to nissan who then puts their name on it and slaps all the dire warnings on everything in their vehicles about it but the fluid is nothing more than Castrol Transmax J which castrol made to work in all JASO 1A spec Japanese auto trannys. JASO 1A spec is the main Japanese standard for ATF and this castrol fluid is used by nissan and subaru and is good for use in Toyota T-IV and Type T fluid requiring transmissions. This fluid has also been approved for use in applications that call for Allison C4, Dexron III, and Mercon. Castrol TransmaxJ Product Data Sheet

Some more JASO 1A spec equivalents to this fluid are Pennzoil ATF-J and IDEMITSU ATF HP which is the fluid used in Japan for our trannys

There are also plenty of Universal ATFs that can be used and what makes these so universal is that they are actually just fully synthetic ATFs that are made to JASO 1A spec which you have see above that JASO 1A spec fluids have been aproved for use in Dexron III, Mercon, Allison, and is suitable in toyota t-IV and type T along with many other trannys from many other companies. The Japanese standard of JASO 1A spec actually far exceeds the standards of most other ATFs that manufactures require for their trannys which pretty much makes anything that is made up to JASO 1A spec a universal ATF so don't let yourself get turned off when you go to amsoil's website and look at the Universal ATF and see a massive list of compatible applications, when you look at this list and wonder "how does this fluid work in all these applications" its because the Japanese standard of JASO 1A spec is far superior to fluids of any of these other applications to date. once again the best of the best comes from japan! There are however some applications that JASO 1A spec fluids do not work in and most Universal ATFs are not recommended in or have not been fully tested in like Ford Type-F, Dexron VI, and any CVT tranny

a few universal ATFs that you can breath easy about switching to now are Amsoil ATF, Motul ATF-1A, Mobile 1 Synthetic ATF, Amalie Universal Synthetic ATF to just name off a few that i can think of off the top of my head.

i hope this little write up will help shed some light on the somewhat touchy subject of ATF and maybe help any of you that are kind of on the fence make a decision about what you which to run when the time comes for tranny service on your 5 speed auto frontier. Thanks for Reading
 
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I imagine it will now be renamed Transmax S as Nissan Matic S now supercedes J.

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Transmission fluid is replaced less often than engine oil, and personally, as finicky as these transmissions are, and as warranty-deny-claim happy as Nissan is, I'll use what they recommend (or require) for the transmission.

Honda Civic's are the same way. Use their stuff or EXPECT problems down the line.



These days, no one has a leg to stand on with engine oil, as long as it meets/exceeds spec.
 

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I imagine it will now be renamed Transmax S as Nissan Matic S now supercedes J.

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yeah i don't have much info on matic s so i just left that out of all this so as to not put my foot in my mouth about something i haven't researched. i'm not even sure if they stuck with castrol as their provider for ATF or if the matic S is coming from someone else. The only thing i can say for sure is that its Fully synthetic as opposed to semi synthetic like the matic j. since matic s is so new finding good info on it isn't so easy :comphead: lol
 

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Transmission fluid is replaced less often than engine oil, and personally, as finicky as these transmissions are, and as warranty-deny-claim happy as Nissan is, I'll use what they recommend (or require) for the transmission.

Honda Civic's are the same way. Use their stuff or EXPECT problems down the line.



These days, no one has a leg to stand on with engine oil, as long as it meets/exceeds spec.
thats your call man, you can't go wrong with it, just trying to help people stay a little more informed. the fluid itself was made by castrol before nissan adopted it for use in their trannys just because the bottle says Nissan matic J doesn't mean it was something specifically made for that tranny. it was made by castrol to work in Japanese trannys, nissan checked it out and decided it was much cheaper to go with that fluid than it is to ship fluid from japan all over to dealerships. when it comes to this nissan has no warranty deny leg to stand on because of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act and the fact that all the fluids listed meet or exceed all standards. you can actually call castrol and ask them where to get their transmax J and they will tell you that you can get it at any nissan or subaru dealership under its respective names at each dealership. in my research i found plenty of people that didn't buy into the whole JASO 1A spec products being approved for use in dexron and mercon trannys even though Ford and GM themselves have approved it themselves. but hey thats your choice bro. like i said this is more for people on the fence about it
 

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Appreciate the info. I'm gettin ready to do another flush and fill on mine and really don't want to drive 75 miles (round trip) to the dealer for $10 an bottle ATF. Now, I just have to find somebody close that carries the Castrol.
 

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Thanks for all the good information. I suspect then, that the matic-J fluid that Nissan has self-branded is probably the same exact product that Castrol puts out for retail. I bought this at Pep-Boys and used it to do my drain/fill:

Castrol USA - Import Multi–Vehicle

I believe it is a semi-synthetic, here is the data sheet:

http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/b...G/local_assets/downloads/p,q/pds_ImportMV.pdf
you actually brought something up that i totally forgot to mention, the castrol transmax J is the original name for the fluid world wide but its Castrol USA equivalent is called Castrol IMPORT MULTIVEHICLE. and yes the fluid that they sell to nissan and the fluid that they sell themselves is the same in a different bottle. and if you have a long drive to a nissan dealer or for whatever reason that you don't want to buy this from a nissan dealer but want to stick to a nissan equivalent fluid just find some where that sells this and your good to go. and yes this is a semi-synthetic
 

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also if you go onto west covina nissan's web page, The Nismo Shop, you will see that you can order motul multi atf (one of the universal ATFs i posted earlier) under fluids for the frontier right next to matic s. just found that amusing considering nissan's attitude towards other ATFs
 

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also if you go onto west covina nissan's web page, The Nismo Shop, you will see that you can order motul multi atf (one of the universal ATFs i posted earlier) under fluids for the frontier right next to matic s. just found that amusing considering nissan's attitude towards other ATFs
Yes, but Motul seems to be the Nectar Of The Gods when it comes to fluids for performance vehicles. I think any Nismo shop would carry if for fear of being laughed at if they did not at least offer it.

I'd love to try Motul ATF and motor oil in my vehicle, I simply can't justify the cost.
 

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Yes, but Motul seems to be the Nectar Of The Gods when it comes to fluids for performance vehicles. I think any Nismo shop would carry if for fear of being laughed at if they did not at least offer it.

I'd love to try Motul ATF and motor oil in my vehicle, I simply can't justify the cost.
that is no joke there, they have quite the long list of teams using their products religiously. i know the nismo team uses their 300v racing oil for the engines.
 

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Appreciate the info. I'm gettin ready to do another flush and fill on mine and really don't want to drive 75 miles (round trip) to the dealer for $10 an bottle ATF. Now, I just have to find somebody close that carries the Castrol.
just looked up the castrol on autozones website and they have it for $5 a quart if you have an autozone close to ya, AutoZone.com | 1 qt. import multi-vehicle automatic transmission fluid | 1 qt. import multi-vehicle automatic transmission fluid
 

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I had started the thread about running ATF's other than Nissan's. What really got me worried was on AMSOIL's website they even recommended running the Nissan stuff in our trucks. Despite their warning I will be running AMSOIL. I'm sure it will be fine. Thanks for the info.

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I'm running BG products Universal ATF. My Nissan dealer sells the kits for fluid exchanges. They sell more of that than any Matic fluids. Thanks for the scoop, Colin.
 

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I'm running BG products Universal ATF. My Nissan dealer sells the kits for fluid exchanges. They sell more of that than any Matic fluids. Thanks for the scoop, Colin.
whats in the fluid exchange kit that your dealer sells, sounds interesting.
 

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to be honest i half expected to get horribly bashed this by alot of people seeing how much of a touchy subject it is so its cool to see all the thanks. so thank you guys for checking it out and i hope this may prompt a few more people to even spend a little time on their next day off and do some research for themselves and if you do and come up with some more interesting stuff post it up.
 

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thats your call man, you can't go wrong with it, just trying to help people stay a little more informed. the fluid itself was made by castrol before nissan adopted it for use in their trannys just because the bottle says Nissan matic J doesn't mean it was something specifically made for that tranny. it was made by castrol to work in Japanese trannys, nissan checked it out and decided it was much cheaper to go with that fluid than it is to ship fluid from japan all over to dealerships. when it comes to this nissan has no warranty deny leg to stand on because of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act and the fact that all the fluids listed meet or exceed all standards. you can actually call castrol and ask them where to get their transmax J and they will tell you that you can get it at any nissan or subaru dealership under its respective names at each dealership. in my research i found plenty of people that didn't buy into the whole JASO 1A spec products being approved for use in dexron and mercon trannys even though Ford and GM themselves have approved it themselves. but hey thats your choice bro. like i said this is more for people on the fence about it
They can still deny a warranty claim, and make you take them to court to prove otherwise. Just something to remember when you bring up the Magnusson-Moss Act.
 

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They can still deny a warranty claim, and make you take them to court to prove otherwise. Just something to remember when you bring up the Magnusson-Moss Act.
They would need to prove that the fluid you used caused damage to your transmission as well as did not meet the specs. As long as you have proof of what you used and it meets the specs, you are good to go.
 
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