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Let's start with the "bad" first.

Was away 4wding on the weekend and cleaned up a little wallaby. Damage wasn't too serious (to the ute)... Broken plastic on the front left hand corner, that was about it by the look of it.

Anyway, got things apart and a few bent brackets etc - nothing terrible. But the bumper cover would have needed replacement, the left hand inner guard would have needed replacing.

So me thinks..."Time to get a bullbar".

Visited my mate at the Canberra ARB store and happened to have a winch bar in stock.

So on it goes.

Figured while I had the vehicle apart it would make sense to throw a snorkel on it at the same time.

I did the fitup myself (last night and this morning) and the result is pretty good I have to say. The bar was an exercise that's for sure! Took some patience, but after the disappointment of damaging the front end, the pleasure of having it back together (and improved) is great :)
 

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Sorry about the little fella, but thats awesome you got all the stuff!!! post some pics bro!!
 

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Just had an ARB winch bar fitted to mine after a wayward citroen speared into me 2 months ago . The alloy bar didnt fare too well so i opted for the ARB. Pics to follow... Did you have to wait 2 months for the bar to be made?
 

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piccies girls or it didnt happen lol
 

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that looks almost the same as genuine nissan winch bar, why opt for ARB?
They are wroughters, big time. i would never go to ARB unless i wanted to give my money away...
 

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I think the stock Nissan Bar might be more expensive actually. I know they are when it comes to the alloy bar. Nissan is charging way more for a way uglier bar
 

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that looks almost the same as genuine nissan winch bar, why opt for ARB?
They are wroughters, big time. i would never go to ARB unless i wanted to give my money away...
Not sure what on earth you are talking about....they are both black - that's about the biggest similarity.

Why opt for ARB? On another tangent, why opt for genuine Nissan? Horses for courses - it's called market force, consumer choice....democracy....basically, freedom of choice. You chose a Nissan bar. Other people have chosen equipment from one of the worlds biggest and most reputable manufacturer of off road specialist equipment...

If you're talking retail prices, the Nissan bar is dearer than the ARB bar. If you're talking "best negotiated price" then it's impossible to compare as there are so many variables.

There is a good reason why ARB equipment is the choice of those who regularly head out into the big red yonder - it's basically the best "off the shelf" equipment available. Happy to debate the issue if you want, but I know I'm right.
 

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ARB manufacture the steel bull bars for nissan aus thats why they look nearly the same
That's an old wives tale.

There are some similarities in the BROAD design, but that's about it. People look at the split pan design and think that is a sure indication the two bars are made by the same manufacturer. But anything more than a cursory glance shows there are some pretty substantial differences in the split pan, let alone the rest of the bar design.
 

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Old wives tall or not ask someone in the know and youll be told Nissan bull bars are made by ARB.Anyone lost any of their capture nuts from their Nissan bull bars go to your nearest Arb shop and they have them they are a odd size.Nissan can only sell you a bag of Bullbar bits for fitting one with them in.
 

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Well along similar lines the Alloy bullbars on both Navara and that other brand are both made by same manufacturer.These days its rare that the car manufacturers make any of the accessories
 

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ARB bar 1570 ish dollars, nissan bar (apparently made by ARB) 1700 odd dollars. I dunno about you but i dont throw my money away. Except on the pokies....
 

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Wouldnt be the first time you can buy the same part from the manufacturer cheaper than you can buy it from the dealer
 

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Not sure what on earth you are talking about....they are both black - that's about the biggest similarity.

Why opt for ARB? On another tangent, why opt for genuine Nissan? Horses for courses - it's called market force, consumer choice....democracy....basically, freedom of choice. You chose a Nissan bar. Other people have chosen equipment from one of the worlds biggest and most reputable manufacturer of off road specialist equipment...

If you're talking retail prices, the Nissan bar is dearer than the ARB bar. If you're talking "best negotiated price" then it's impossible to compare as there are so many variables.

There is a good reason why ARB equipment is the choice of those who regularly head out into the big red yonder - it's basically the best "off the shelf" equipment available. Happy to debate the issue if you want, but I know I'm right.
Lets not get nitty gritty about their similarities, cos naturally they wouldn't be exactly the same, but i am carrying the nissan steel bar and it looks very similar, only bonus i can see on your small pic is that it has fog light sockets.
Reason i stay away from ARB is; i called them to get my winch fitted after my bar was already on.
they said they will have to take the bar off and the cost would start from $400. This was just for labour.
i said "What!? Is that with a new winch?"
Talk about stealership.... i fit it myself and it took an hour...
 

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Lets not get nitty gritty about their similarities, cos naturally they wouldn't be exactly the same, but i am carrying the nissan steel bar and it looks very similar, only bonus i can see on your small pic is that it has fog light sockets.
Reason i stay away from ARB is; i called them to get my winch fitted after my bar was already on.
they said they will have to take the bar off and the cost would start from $400. This was just for labour.
i said "What!? Is that with a new winch?"
Talk about stealership.... i fit it myself and it took an hour...
Sorry, but I haven't posted a pic of the bullbar - you must be referring to someone else.

If you are staying away from ARB equipment based on the estimated price for fitting a winch being (in your opinion) excessive, then that's naturally your choice. Of course you can fit things yourself cheaper than ARB (or in fact pretty much anyone else) will charge - your time is effectively "free", whereas a professional workshop has to pay a whole raft of costs for their workers after all. Heck, ARB wanted my vehicle for a full day to fit the bullbar (as well as a few hundred dollars) - I fitted it myself in a few hours. That has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the product however... Heck one of the reasons I fitted the bar myself was due to the ARB workshop being booked out a few weeks in advance. But again - MY choice to do the fitting, and I can't blame ARB for needing to at least recover the costs of doing work.

So are you debating the quality of the product or the price for fitting? Because you started off by saying (in a previous post) that "that looks almost the same as genuine nissan winch bar, why opt for ARB?" Now you're saying that you stayed away from them because of the price they quoted for fitting a winch... Fitting a winch to a bar that you didn't buy from them... Which also raises the question - why didn't you fit the Nissan (Warn) winch - which is the same brand ARB sell. And another question - were you asking ARB to supply the winch as well (so they get the sale), or were you supplying the winch yourself (which you procurred elsewhere)? The reason I ask those questions is that (again, in MY opinion) I think it's a little unreasonable to say to someone "I'm not going to buy YOUR products, but I want YOU to fit them at a cheap price".

So...you said originally that the nissan bar looks similar to the arb bar, so why go for the arb product? I replied with reasons around quality (as my only consideration - other people naturally have other considerations). No you've changed your mind and said it's not about the visual similarities or otherwise, it's about a price you were quoted for fitting a winch...so which is it?

I'm always interested in working through a debate, but when someone keeps changing the goalposts it's a bit difficult...
 
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