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Here's the link to the full review of the 2020 Frontier on TFL

 

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Not bad for an old truck with just a new powertrain. imo, the 66 mile loop for highway miles in not long enough to get a true reading of highway mpg. By the time I am ready for a new pickup they should have the bugs worked out on the new model and even time to see how reliable the 3.8 will be.
 

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3.69 gear ratio? That can't be right on a Pro-4x auto unless they changed the gears for 2020

1600rpm @70mph is awesome. When stock, my Pro-4x would be pushing 1900 at 70mph and 2500 at 80mph
 

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What the review didn't report is how the transmission does on hills. Many have reported the 3gen Tacoma gears hunt with the slightest of incline. It then doesn't like to go back to the higher gear. Hopefully Nissan has this figured out.
 

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I thought it was odd he tested 0-60 in 4x4 Hi...owners manual clearly states do not engage 4wd on pavement...
 

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3.69 gear ratio? That can't be right on a Pro-4x auto unless they changed the gears for 2020

1600rpm @70mph is awesome. When stock, my Pro-4x would be pushing 1900 at 70mph and 2500 at 80mph
It's possible. More gears in the transmission might mean they can give it a better O.D. gear and also give it better acceleration in the lower gears.
 

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The question is what are the ratios. It probably has 3 overdrives. first gear sounded pretty tall, similar to what the 5-speed auto has. It's all going to be about that fuel econ number.
 

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Not much faster than gen2. Mileage looks better, a version without the crap on the roof, highway tires and the standard gear ratio will do even better.
Hope the new combo is successful, still glad to have to old engine/transmission.
 

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I'm curious about the 4660 lb curb weight, 6012 lb GVWR and 1047 lb payload on the sticker. The GWRV for my 2013 KC Pro4x is 5600 lb. I was able to get that 5600 lb dead on at a landfill scale and was 4680 lb on the way out. Both of those weights were with me in it. That gives a curb weight of about 4480 lb which would make the payload 1120 lb.

So for 2013, the manufacturer GVWR, curb weight and payload all make sense. From the video, there seems to be an extra few hundred pounds in between. A legit 1352 lb payload would be nice.
 

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Nice results, great hear the 3.8L & 9spd suit the truck well.

I'd side with the trip meter over the top up figure. The difference between 24.6mpg and 22.5mpg over 66 miles is only 0.25 of a gallon. We all know these trucks are inconsistent to top up no matter what method you use.
 

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Real world mileage with a moderate load would be interesting. 3 o/d gears are great in the flatlands. And for epa testing. With a load on hills bet it downshifts early and often, actual drive ratio may be close to current truck.
 

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Norman brake torque launched the 4.0 liter at 2500 or so rpms
Andre basically didn't brake torque launch the 2020. He seemed to be under 1500 rpms.
That was the big difference. I think they'd see closer to a half second or more off 0-60 if they'd of brake torque launched the 2020 at 2500 rpms too.
Also, the 2020 weighed 4660 lbs.
Car and Driver tested the PRO-4x in 2017 and it weighed 4616 lbs
So seems the 2020 is about 40 lbs heavier, but that could be scale variances.

Why is this in the 3rd Gen Truck section?
The 2020 is still the 2nd Gen truck.
 

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I would call this Gen 2.5, so if you round up...
Funny, but
a heart transplant usually doesn't make for a new generation.

I see it at a special edition send off for the 2nd Generation, but it's clearly still a 2nd gen Frontier.
 

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I went out and checked my speed/rpms in my 2019 PRO-4X to compare it to the 2020 3.8 with 9 speed trans.

2019 4.0L 5 speed at 70 mph it's turning about 2150 rpms
2020 3.8L 9 speed at 70 mph is turning about 1600-1650 rpms (according to TFL video)
that = 500 rpms lower at 70 mph cruise in the 2020.

I have to say, I think that will translate to at least 2-3 mpg better on the freeway.

I decided to see how fast I'd be going at about 1650 rpms in my 2019 to compare it to the 2020 which is going 70 mph at that rpms.
It equates to about 52 mph in 5th gear in the 4.0L 5 speed auto.
That's significant.
Again, I'd have to think that if you compare a 4.0 with 5 speed cruising at 52 mph to one doing 70 mph, you'd see at least 2 mpg better in the one cruising 52 mph and that's with the gas guzzling 4.0L
In the 3.8L with the DI it should be even better.

I think we'll see an EPA rating in the 2020 PRO-4X of
16 city
24 hwy
19 combined
 
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