[PIMPaLiCiOuS]

This will be a little long. . .Okay, as some of you may know, I have located a dealership that has the EXACT truck I'm looking for down to the color and options. Recap below:

Nissan Frontier NISMO King Cab
-Exterior: Storm Gray
-Interior: Charcoal
-Transmission: Automatic
-Drivetrain: 4x4
-NISMO Utility Bed Package
-NISMO/LE Audio Package
-NISMO/LE Traction Package

I built it on nissanusa.com and then located it by the dealer closest to my ZIP code. I e-mailed the dealership to ask if they still had the truck and I got this response back:

"Rodney, The 2006 Nissan Frontier King Cab 4.4 VIN#1N6AD06W36C425804 Still Available in stock. We need your business. Please stop by for a test drive. SALE PRICE $24,847.00 AFTER REBATE."

First thought? Holy shiet! Why? He's already giving me a price of $24,847.00 and I didn't even have to talk to the guy!! The listed price of the truck is $27,698.00. Edmunds.com has the Customer Cash Adjusted True Market Value of the exact model truck with all the options I want as $24,975.00 (this includes a $650 Destination and Handling fee and the $1000 Frontier Rebate). So the price he quoted me is already below the TMV of what others are paying in my area.

So next, I ask him what the build date was, the date it arrived at the dealership, and the current mileage. He responds with:

Build Date: January 2006
Date Arrived Dealership: February 2, 2006
Current Mileage: 10 miles

I also had him confirm that everything the website stated the truck had -- the truck actually HAD (which it did). He also said they installed window tint and wheel locks. I ask him, "Also, is that price you quoted me including Destination and Handling fees, and ALL other miscellaneous fees that can possibly be thrown in, with the exception of tax, tag, title and license?" His response to this was:

"Sale price After rebate $24847+ $99.50 Doc Fee . This price is not includes tag ,title and taxes."

Now, he is getting back to me through e-mail almost immediately. I guess he is the "Internet dealer" at that place. It even has in red in his signature, "You MUST work through the internet department to receive quoted pricing. This Document MUST be presented upon arrival to receive quoted pricing."

So everything to me seems too good to be true. He sounds like he/the dealership are hurting right now. His first e-mail started with "We need your business," and each e-mail had "Please call to setup an appointment to test drive the vehicle."

You may be asking yourself, why haven't you actually gone to the dealership to look at the truck? Well, I'm trying to get a baseline for where I'm at, and make them tell me facts that I want to read ON PAPER so they can't dick me around when I get there. I want to make him tell me that that price includes destination and handling, and that the tint and wheel locks are rolled into that price and not something they will say is extra.

What do you guys think about the $24,847.00 for a KC NISMO 4x4 w/ all the options above. I have no idea how accurate Edmunds TMV is, but if it is accurate, I already have a deal. And there's still room for me to knock that down more! Should I? If so, how should I go about doing it? I haven't even told him I am Active Duty military, so that should be at least another $500 off just like that, making it $24,347.

I don't know how to feel because I don't know if this really is a good deal or not. My gut feeling tells me its not bad at all.

OPINIONS????????

 

[Dezrt4x4]

I think that's a pretty sweet deal, Although try to get a few more $ knocked off to make it a super sweet deal lol.

 

[StormNISMO]

That is almost exactly what I paid for my 05 (pretty much the exact same truck). I think it was a pretty good deal,but I think you should try to get a few little things thrown in!! I told the dealer I would'nt buy unless they threw in the all-weather floor mats, hood bug deflector, extra utili-track tie downs, and pinstriping (which I took off) and they gave it all to me. It never hurts to ask!!

 

[outlnder]

Tell them you will take it for $24,857 out the door including all doc fees, taxes and tiltle.

See what his response is.

 

[05_NISMO_4X4]

That's actually a really good deal! I paid more than that for my 05 NISMO and the only option I have that it doesn't are the side impact air bags! Normally the Internet manager will give the best price because it doesn't take the time it does when someone visits the showroom. This is because you already know what you want, did the research for him, and are contacting him about the truck you want! I would take your truck down there, see what they will give you on trade and ask them to throw in an extra accessory! I had them throw in the sliding bed extender!

 

[bluegrass]

Edmunds TMV is pretty darn accurate IMO but if anything it's usually a little high because it lags behind the real world... that sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me too especially considering it's an '06! I agree there is probably a few hundred bucks of wiggle room still and you could probably get some accessories thrown in, that's how I got my trailer hitch. You're definetly playing it right by getting everything down on paper exactly the way you want!

 

[kansasfrontier]

I also agree that deal seems awesome

I just spoke with the salesman who sold me my truck in KS.
He would be willing to speak with you and try and beat this other deal.
I was treated very well.

his number is 620-200-2983 Steve Schwartz

Im my experience, you always get the lowest price if you make dealerships compete against each other.
It would be a 3 hour drive for you, so it definitely would have to be a great deal for you to drive that far.

good luck

 

[Nismo54]

Sounds like that's pretty close to invoice. I would shoot for 24 even or try to get at least one accessory for free. You didn't mention the tow package but you can always get a hitch put on later if you need it. I really liked the factory step rails, bug shield, and rubber mats so I got those thrown into my deal.

If there's other dealerships in your area (maybe up in Tulsa), check around most dealers will beat other dealer's prices. There's five Nissan Dealerships in my area, I had them compete against each other until one gave me the deal I wanted. Only problem you may not be able to find another Nismo equipped like you want close by.

 

[Bighert3rd]

Compared to what I paid for mine that's a really good deal. I fought with the salesman trying to get them as low as possible and also trying to get as much for my trade-in until they refused to go any lower. So what I did was waited just until the paperwork was all ready for me to sign and I told them that they would have to throw in an Auto-Start for me ($600) value or I was walking. They agreed without hesitation. Almost made me what to demand more but I was happy with that because Auto-Starts in Alaska are a must, and is just nice to be able to start your vehicle with a touch of a button.

 

[OkieScot]

It sounds like a pretty good deal to me as well. If you argue to long over a few dollars your truck may be gone. I would go in and make the deal so you don't lose out on the truck. You need to see if there are any accessories you want and then ask them to let you add those accessories at their cost.

I saved quite a bit of money by getting them at their cost. My dealer gives me a discount on all the parts I buy, not a match for what the sales department can do when they add these features to your truck.

Also the 3.65 percent tax on the vehicle is better than the 8.75 percent tax if you buy
the parts over the counter.

Good luck,

OkieScot

 

[bimmertech]

In my experience by haggling over what amounts to a possible couple hundred dollar difference, you're wasting your time. What you'll save the most on is what dealerships make the most on; your trade in. Dealer might make a couple or a few hundred on the sale of (most) new vehicles, but they make thousands on used cars. That is where the money is and it is at your expense. Sell your current vehicle outright and don't trade it in. That will make the most impact on your bottom line.

P.S.

I've seen the used car dept at my place sell a 1 year old 325I with 15k miles for 1K more than the original sticker price when it was new. Trust me on this, service and trade-ins pay the bills, not new car sales.

 

[PIMPaLiCiOuS]

Well, he wrote me back and said that destination, handling, window tint, wheel locks are all in the $24,847 + 99.50 doc fee price.

I want the tow receive htich and rubber floor mats. Should I ask him to add those to the quoted price at their cost, and then if he bites, go for my military discount? I think he would be more prone to say yes to that then for me to ask them to pay all doc fees and tax and title fees.

Oh, and about trading in...I wasn't planning on trading in my truck to them for the simple fact that I don't think they (or any dealer for that matter) would even take it. Its a heavily modified Nissan Hardbody (i.e. my bed is cut-out for a step notch in the frame).

Let me know what you guys think.

 

[PIMPaLiCiOuS]

Oh, before I forget, did all your trucks come with the remote key fobs???

 

[05FRONTY]

Mine Did.

 

[StormNISMO]

Oh, before I forget, did all your trucks come with the remote key fobs???

Absolutly!! Make sure you get atleast 2, because those things are expensive!!

 

[05_NISMO_4X4]

If you're looking at the NISMO then they definately come with the remotes. I would go in, tell them you are still looking but want to test drive it, ask about the military discount (They may do that instead of the internet discount, but probably won't do both) then to seal the deal tell them you'll sign then and there if they trow in the hitch and mats! Where I bought my truck the Internet Discount was better than the Military Discount! Don't be afraid to walk if they don't meet your terms, I've gotten many a thing I've asked for as I was walking out the door!

 

[PIMPaLiCiOuS]

Yah, that would suck if they didn't give me both of those incentives!!! The $1000 rebate is a lot better than the usual $500 military discount that mosltly everyone gives out.

Anywho, things changed a little. The wife and I sat down and decided to "perfect" our financial picture (paying off all credit, contributions to retirement, setting up emergency savings fund, etc), so it looks like it'll be maybe 3-4 months before I actually drive my Frontier home. She also said we have to start planning for little ones 8O , so KC is outta the picture for a 4x4 NISMO CC.

I'd like the Rockford Fosgate package. Anyone have it? How do they like it? What don't they like?

I also want the Traction package because for my layman @$$, it sounds like something important. Should I shell out the money for this?

The Sunroof package is also required w/ the Traction package. Anyone have any gripes about the roof rack? I didn't want it because I want a clean look, but the Traction package, I feel, is more important to have than to not have the roof rack for my cosmetic reasons.

I'm really bummed, but I'm looking forward to the next few months. I'm still getting quotes from dealerships about this new configuration, so I'll post and you guys can shed your wisdom!!!

Thanks for all your help!!!!!

 

[StormNISMO]

Good Luck Pimp!! The wait will just make the truck that much sweeter!! I bought a King Cab and the girlfriend is giving me grief about where to put kids in it. She's got a Murano so if we ever have little ones that will be the "van"!! :wink:

 

[bluegrass]

Well having to wait is just going to make it all the more sweeter(I just realized thats exactly what StormNISMO said, hah). Does the military discount work like a rebate? Because then it would stack with the other factory rebate like my college grad one did. I personally like the roof rack... for some reason most people don't seem too fond but I think the truck looks a bit droopy without it. As far as wind noise at freeway speeds, I think those bulky side mirrors make more noise than the roof rack does. I wish I had the Rockford Fosgate package just for the steeringwheel audio controls. I don't have the traction package either but HSA and HDC are useless to me, VDC might be something very nice to have if you get alot of snow/ice or if it tends to be very slick after it rains in your area. My VDC consists of sensors in my food hands and eyeballs all linked to my brain and it does seem to work pretty darn well :lol:

 

[kansasfrontier]

PimpaLiCoUs

The Rockford fosgate package is definitely worth it if you want a factory stereo that is better then most. It comes with the stering wheel controls that I could not live without, as well as an 8 inch subwoofer. Obviously if you like to listen to a lot of music with deep bass then the system will leave you wanting for more. The system is actually pretty loud. I would take two or three of your favorite cd's and listen to it before you buy it.

As for the VDC (vehicle dynamic control) I live on a dirt road and absolutely love it.
In snow, you can drive in 2 wheel drive most of the time with no problems what so ever.
I havent used the Hill start assist or Hill descent control, but once my truck is paid for I will probably use them alot.

Plus I don't think its worth anything, but it is pretty cool that this is the first nismo badged nissan sold in the USA. (unless I'm wrong)

goodluck