That is interesting, I wonder if the pipe from the CAT to the Y is 2.5"? I went to the Gibson Website, and they have very little information on it either. Their notes for the 05/06 system say 3" tailpipe, 3.5" Tip! Nothing about the size of the pipe from the CAT to the Y! So, maybe it is 2.5" to the Y then 3" from there back!
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that could be a possibility.
so is that a good thing?
so is that a good thing?
I think so! All the research I have done indicates the optimum pipe size for our engine displacement and HP to be between 2" and 2.5"! The Magnaflow site states you should not exceed stock by more than a 1/2", and stock from the CATs on our truck is 2". From the Y back is 2.25", so 3" is still a bit bigger than they recommend. Thus the reason I am holding off to see what JBA brings to the table! From what I've been told, the pipes on the JBA are 2" from the Cat to the Y and then 2.5" from the Y back. I think bigger after the Y is okay being as you have exhaust from two pipes exiting into it anyway, thus freeing the flow...
Looks like I might be gearing towards the Gibson then LOL
I've been reading some of your exhaust system threads and posts and they helped alot.
I think it was your post that I saw that indicated the 3" but when I was checking out that site,
i was suprised to see that it is noted to be 2 1/2"?
but I guess I might just hold off for now until that JBA system comes out
I've been reading some of your exhaust system threads and posts and they helped alot.
I think it was your post that I saw that indicated the 3" but when I was checking out that site,
i was suprised to see that it is noted to be 2 1/2"?
but I guess I might just hold off for now until that JBA system comes out
I sent an e-mail to the sales department at Gibson asking specifics on the size pipes used in their system. I'll let you know what they say when they respond. Like I said before, I'm a fan of Gibson, had one on my F-150 and loved it! So, if the JBA doesn't live up to all the hype, I'll probably be going with the Gibson as well. I'm in no hurry though, the stock system is still performing just fine!
II think I am jumping on your boat with the exhaust issue.
I am still in my break in period for my truck. 600+ so far and 6 days.
do you suggest to get the air mods after the break in?
and what is your suggested break-in?
I am still in my break in period for my truck. 600+ so far and 6 days.
do you suggest to get the air mods after the break in?
and what is your suggested break-in?
I think it's only 1000 miles, I know it wasn't much. I got the AirAid for two reason, 1st was Price, Premier Truck Accessories will sell it to Club Frontier members for $170.00 with free shipping. That's the cheapest name brand CAI I found. 2nd was the design. I didn't care for the look of the CAI's that removed the stock air tube with the Nissan Logo, it leaves the engine compartment looking like it's missing something! Again, this is just personal preference. The design of the AirAid also facilitates a quick change from CAI to stock airbox. My dealership is finiky about aftermarket mods, so I put the stock air box back before I have any work done at the dealership. The change takes less than 15 minutes because the AirAid utilizes the bottom of the stock air box in it's design. It still has the same great sound and performance of the others, so I'm happy with it. I also installed the PowerAid TBS, which is a nice complement to the AirAid CAI. I didn't do any mods until the breakin period was over, but if you think about it, you only have another 400 miles to go, that will be gone in no time!
you are right about the CAI, they are so close in performance that it would be hard to tell.
my main concern would be the oiled filters. I have an Injen CAI in my car and I am used to it.
But it looks like AEM offers a dry filter for their system to avoid malfunction to the MAF.
yeah 400 miles to go would be nothing. I had been riding it kinda hard but not past 80 mph for long periods of time. I am somewhat applying the break-in techniques for sports bike, hard break-in then change oil after 600, ride hard again and change oil @ 1000.
I might change the oil now since I had been driving the truck close to 5k rpms.
is there a limit to the rpms during the break-in period?
my main concern would be the oiled filters. I have an Injen CAI in my car and I am used to it.
But it looks like AEM offers a dry filter for their system to avoid malfunction to the MAF.
yeah 400 miles to go would be nothing. I had been riding it kinda hard but not past 80 mph for long periods of time. I am somewhat applying the break-in techniques for sports bike, hard break-in then change oil after 600, ride hard again and change oil @ 1000.
I might change the oil now since I had been driving the truck close to 5k rpms.
is there a limit to the rpms during the break-in period?
Getting zoomers exhaust, will take plenty of pics of install.05_NISMO_4X4 said:! Good luck and post some pics of the exhaust after you get it installed!
I e-mailed reverendbiker, who has the Gibson on his truck and asked him the pipe size of the Gibson... Here's his reply:NISMO_R6 said:Paul,
I was browsing through PerformanceCenter.com they have it advertised as 2 1/2" unless it is a typo??
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I like how the tip is not rolled compared to the JBA.
So, it appears the information on PerformanceCenter.com is incorrect, but it also appears the Gibson Engineers took into account the larger pipes and added a resonator to cut the drone and add needed back pressure! I'm still going to wait for the release of the JBA before I commit, but Gibson is definately one of my top choices!Hey, Paul--
Great to hear from you again! I've been lurking on the forum but have been so busy with the motorcycles (Spring is a great time for riding in the Texas Hill Country) that I'm afraid that I've neglected the poor ol' Frontier. The Gibson system is indeed a 3" system from stem to stern. I was a bit skeptical about that decision, because my own experience is that a 4-liter V-6 shouldn't need such a large exhaust. I guess that I have to give the Gibson engineers some credit, though, because the thing seems to work very well. My best guess is that the in-line resonator provides enough backpressure that the 3" pipe is necessary. I've had the Gibson system for over a year and am still pleased with it; the sound is still nice and mellow without being obnoxious, and there is no droning or resonance in the cabin at highway speed. In fact, on the road it's hardly louder than stock. Having said all that, it's pricey. If another owner was on a budget I'd recommend a shop-built system using a Gibson muffler; you'd get all the sound and most of the performance increase for no more than 2/3 the price.
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Paul,
I appreciate you sharing the info, so it seems it is a typo in performancecenter website just a swhat I have suspected. But great to know that the design is still pretty good and benefitial.
I've read, maybe your posts, that have the 3" will let you lose a bit of low end torque.
So maybe the reason I am holding out as well to see the JBA system. Maybe I can live with the rolled exhaust tip if it does what the Gibson offers (reduce or eliminate drone, add hp) but if the JBA is positive with the torque result, then we may have a winner!
I chatted with Jason of Burtman Ind. on AIM last night and asked him alot of questions. Albeit CAI or the exhausts, and bull bars. He said the Gibson is a great system, which already backed up what you and others have pointed out. But he doesn't have alot of info on the JBA's.
I appreciate you sharing the info, so it seems it is a typo in performancecenter website just a swhat I have suspected. But great to know that the design is still pretty good and benefitial.
I've read, maybe your posts, that have the 3" will let you lose a bit of low end torque.
So maybe the reason I am holding out as well to see the JBA system. Maybe I can live with the rolled exhaust tip if it does what the Gibson offers (reduce or eliminate drone, add hp) but if the JBA is positive with the torque result, then we may have a winner!
I chatted with Jason of Burtman Ind. on AIM last night and asked him alot of questions. Albeit CAI or the exhausts, and bull bars. He said the Gibson is a great system, which already backed up what you and others have pointed out. But he doesn't have alot of info on the JBA's.
Yep, for me it's down to what the JBA system has to offer! The Gibson is a great system, but in my mind, there is one big con, and that's the 3" pipes! Of course, it's also countered by a huge pro in that it also has a resonator to keep cabin noise to a minimum! The JBA has a lot to live up to, I hope it can handle the task! 
well you definitely gave me alot of insight in my short time in here!
I am holding on for what the JBA can offer.
what is the timeline for it to be available?
and which material is the way to go? Aluminized steel or stainless steel?
I would think the SS would be a better choice.
I am holding on for what the JBA can offer.
what is the timeline for it to be available?
and which material is the way to go? Aluminized steel or stainless steel?
I would think the SS would be a better choice.
Quite honestly, for where you live (and I used to live in Sunnyvale from 92 to 96 when I was on active duty), the Aluminized system should be fine! Now here in Indy where sometimes there is more salt on the roads than there is snow, the SS would be the better long term choice. But, I normally don't keep a vehicle long enough to wear out an exhaust system, and the stock system is also aluminized, so I'll probably only go with the aluminized system as well.
I just sent you a PM a minute ago, if you're on-line look at it and e-mail me!
I just sent you a PM a minute ago, if you're on-line look at it and e-mail me!
thanks Paul,
the truck will also see alot of snow driving during the winter months for skiing trips.
that's a trip that you used to live here in Sunnyvale. Alot has changed since those years.
I was still in high school 92-95 LOL
oh yeah, I replied to your email
the truck will also see alot of snow driving during the winter months for skiing trips.
that's a trip that you used to live here in Sunnyvale. Alot has changed since those years.
I was still in high school 92-95 LOL
oh yeah, I replied to your email
And, I've responded!
Yep, I worked out of an office building off Oakmeade, lived in a trailer park on the other side of the highway (don't remember the name of the place, but it was all we could aford) and my wife worked at University of Pheonix in San Jose! It was a great place, but the cost of living sucked, especially on Air Force Enlisted pay! That's where I started honing my cost savings skills! Ever since, my motto has been: "Never pay full price for anything!" Car dealer hate me, and my wife refers to me as the Coupon King and Mail-in Rebate Maniac! But, hey, I save a lot of money doing it, I look at it as a challenge!
Yep, I worked out of an office building off Oakmeade, lived in a trailer park on the other side of the highway (don't remember the name of the place, but it was all we could aford) and my wife worked at University of Pheonix in San Jose! It was a great place, but the cost of living sucked, especially on Air Force Enlisted pay! That's where I started honing my cost savings skills! Ever since, my motto has been: "Never pay full price for anything!" Car dealer hate me, and my wife refers to me as the Coupon King and Mail-in Rebate Maniac! But, hey, I save a lot of money doing it, I look at it as a challenge!
Paul that is like down the street where I am living. That was just next to the freeway, 101.
And that U of P in SJ is down by 1st street! yse cost of living here in the Bay Area sucks, I mean literally. But i hear you on saving whenevr you can. The reason I ended up getting an 06 Frontier compared to a more pricey 06 TRD Tacoma. Heck even with the lower price, I even got more!
And that U of P in SJ is down by 1st street! yse cost of living here in the Bay Area sucks, I mean literally. But i hear you on saving whenevr you can. The reason I ended up getting an 06 Frontier compared to a more pricey 06 TRD Tacoma. Heck even with the lower price, I even got more!
Yep, loved the area, loved the weather, hated the cost of living! I guess if I was one of the lucky folks who were computer engineers making the big bucks, I'd still be living there, but on what the AF paid me, I couldn't get out of there fast enough!
I looked at the TRD also, didn't care for the seating position! Felt like I was sitting on the floor, like in a car. I like a more upright sitting position, like in a truck, especially if I'm in a truck! :lol:
I looked at the TRD also, didn't care for the seating position! Felt like I was sitting on the floor, like in a car. I like a more upright sitting position, like in a truck, especially if I'm in a truck! :lol:
that's exactly how I felt, I mean I am getting a truck and I want it to feel like a truck.
And If I want to sit lower and closer to the ground, I'll drive my lowered Toyota. Which by the way, is a huge change in feeling after I get used to driving the truck, it felt so close to the ground!
And If I want to sit lower and closer to the ground, I'll drive my lowered Toyota. Which by the way, is a huge change in feeling after I get used to driving the truck, it felt so close to the ground!
Back to CAI discusion, is it helping anyones gas mileage and is their much of an increase in HP using the Airaid CAI, I like the fact you can switch it back to the stock box without having to remove a bunch of stuff, Ive looked into every CAI made at this point the Airaid looks like the best deal. BTW, can I still get one for the $170 OTD, Iam always late on all the good deals
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