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You are going to have to change the uniballs. The EBay are known to fail. PRG sell replacements for $150.
Sorry, I was thinking they were the Total Chaos clones.
 

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-Nissan-Pathfinder-Xterra-Frontier-Front-Upper-Control-Arms-for-2-4-Lift/272846352853?hash=item3f86e8f1d5:g:H9oAAOSwPK5ZijP0&vxp=mtr

I was looking at these for my 08 NISMO. I'm planning on a 2.5-3" lift, and the price on these is a lot easier to swallow than SPC or other aftermarket brands. Does anyone see a reason these wouldn't work for me? Does anyone have experience with these?
Whistler is right. If you buy them do not install them without changing out the uniballs. They will be worn out within six months.

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I made a mistake. These don’t use uniballs.
They use regular ball joints.
 

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The link the op posted says it uses OEM style BALL JOINTS!
 

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The link the op posted says it uses OEM style BALL JOINTS!
Easy on the lobes... The pic didn't show when I replied earlier. The ones I had were the TC chaos clones.

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Easy on the lobes... The pic didn't show when I replied earlier. The ones I had were the TC chaos clones.

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TC clones

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No experience with those, but.... What is the ball joint? Can it be replaced? Would you be out another $199.99 when the ball joints wear out? Are the bushings rubber or polyurethane? Again, are those parts replaceable? I know you are trying to save money comparing to the SPC's or others, but, name brand items have replaceable parts.
 

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Yeah that is a bit more manageable $$$ wise wasn't aware anyone made em I looked at pic and description like whistler said uses oem style ball joint an says "Replacement ball joints and bushings available from Freedom Off-Road". You can see they are pressed in so should be no problem replacing.
Well I just went by freedom's site looks like they're starting up I went to check for replacement joint n bushings but there's nothing listed yet
https://www.freedomoffroadusa.com/

Too bad you didn't post these before I brought mine other day I would've considered them
 

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Yeah that is a bit more manageable $$$ wise wasn't aware anyone made em I looked at pic and description like whistler said uses oem style ball joint an says "Replacement ball joints and bushings available from Freedom Off-Road". You can see they are pressed in so should be no problem replacing.
Well I just went by freedom's site looks like they're starting up I went to check for replacement joint n bushings but there's nothing listed yet
https://www.freedomoffroadusa.com/

Too bad you didn't post these before I brought mine other day I would've considered them
I just looked at the ebay ad again, if I plug in my 2008 Frontier info, it says "this product will not fit". I thought the Pathfinder shared the same front suspension as the Frontiers?
 

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They should fit I believe the Frontier n Pathfinder used the same at least to when they redid the pathfinder in like 2013 I didn't even look at that lol good catch
 

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I was looking at these for my 08 NISMO. I'm planning on a 2.5-3" lift, and the price on these is a lot easier to swallow than SPC or other aftermarket brands. Does anyone see a reason these wouldn't work for me? Does anyone have experience with these?
Honestly - if you're looking with price point as the primary factor, then yes - these will work for you.

If you want something you don't have to mod or replace parts once a year, go with SPCs, PRGs, or Total Chaos.

you may as well grab some gas station sushi and call it a night.
Haha holy cow that is so bad LOL
 

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If you want something you don't have to mod or replace parts once a year, go with SPCs, PRGs, or Total Chaos.
Raine you want to elaborate do you know someone that has or had experience with the ones OP was asking about? because I don't but being Christmas holiday its kinda hard to get more information on them but I'm always looking for a better solution an hopefully cheaper than the big bucks those are asking. And from what I see so far if these take oe style joints an bushings these might just take a hell of a big chunk of business from the likes of Chaos SPC an PRG.
 

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Honestly - if you're looking with price point as the primary factor, then yes - these will work for you.

If you want something you don't have to mod or replace parts once a year, go with SPCs, PRGs, or Total Chaos.
Price point isn't the only factor, but it is a major factor. If these will do the same job as the $500+ control arms, but at less then half the cost, why not use them?

Is there something you are seeing that leads you to believe that I will have to modify or replace parts yearly?
 

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Price point isn't the only factor, but it is a major factor. If these will do the same job as the $500+ control arms, but at less then half the cost, why not use them?

Is there something you are seeing that leads you to believe that I will have to modify or replace parts yearly?
Some off the "off name" control arms are supplied with bushings and or ball joints that don't seem to have the life they should.

We keep saying "OE style ball joints" but again, what ball joint is this, is it a common ball joint, is it available from an auto parts store or are you stuck going with the supplier?

You can take a $200 set of arms, need $100-$150 worth of bushings and ball joints and now they are $350 arms that might need another $100-$150 worth of bushings / ball joints in a "short time" so... you are not always money ahead.

But.. If both the bushings and ball joints are a common part # that are cheap, yes, then you may be money ahead.

And, the topic of the big name arms keeps coming up. Another thing to consider is effort/labor to replace said parts. I run SPC's and the ball joints are a single bolt deal, not press in. The bushings are poly and are also NOT press in, so I could have parts replaced quickly and effortlessly compared to an OE style arm with press in ball joints and rubber bushings.

"Value isn't in how much you spend, it's what you get for what you spend."
 

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I contacted Freedom Offroad through ebay and asked them what kind of ball joints and bushings they used.
"These are Freedom Offroad specific ball joint available directly through them."
I guess that answers the question on whether or not I will be buying their control arms.

Are SPC control arms the only one that come with a common, serviceable ball joint?

Thank you all for your input on this.
 

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I wonder how long their ball joints (and welds) would last? How hard to get replacement ball joints?
 

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I wonder how long their ball joints (and welds) would last? How hard to get replacement ball joints?
I cannot speak to the longevity of these ebay SPC clones as I have real authentic SPC UCA's and they have lasted no problems for almost a year now (I shoot some grease into the ball joints once in a while).
I purchased them used and replaced the bushings and ball joints...
See here in my build thread:
Click the link and scroll about half way down.
http://www.clubfrontier.org/forums/f103/mncarl-2012-pro-4x-moose-228865/

Here is the link to the replacement ball joints and bushings:
http://www.spcalignment.com/index.php?option=com_spc&task=part_description&pid=25001
http://www.spcalignment.com/index.php?option=com_spc&task=part_description&pid=25546

Here is a link to the actual SPC UCA's complete:
http://www.spcalignment.com/component/spc/?task=part_description&pid=25540&region=USA&make=Nissan&model=Frontier&year=2005 - 2017&from=USAFrom&to=USATo
 
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