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Revolver Shackles

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Does Terra Flex make a shackle that will work on our trucks. Is anyone running them. I'm doing my suspension next month 3" spacer, UCA, Radflos. AAL or deacers in the rear. I would like to run these shackles if possible.

Thanks,
Erich
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4x4parts.com have revolvers dont know if they are terra flex's
I ordered the 4x4parts one's, but they haven't come in yet. Do they look like the ones you're thinking of? (pic off 4x4parts.com)

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Just a heads up: you will not be able to run a 3" spacer on top of the radflo afaik. Make sure you do some research before ordering parts. I think the consensus is that 1" is the max...
Ya thats the one well question answered. Rat whats your take on these? Rat, I asked this on Rat Project Thread, but what were you running before the Fu%Ktech disaster?
heinzee said:
Ya thats the one well question answered. Rat whats your take on these? Rat, I asked this on Rat Project Thread, but what were you running before the Fu%Ktech disaster?

I'll be nice and answer twice :laugh: ......

rancho struts w/AC coils in front
AC AAL and rancho's in rear.

still have the rear setup on. hopefully these AC revolvers will help get her back to level
There are some revolvers for sale over at thenewx.org and he's asking $200 shipped.
brutal is running them, ask him where he got them
JohnnyV said:
There are some revolvers for sale over at thenewx.org and he's asking $200 shipped.
I've always wondered, do Frontier's and Xterra's use the same shackles?
stevet47 said:
I've always wondered, do Frontier's and Xterra's use the same shackles?
Me to. .
stevet47 said:
I've always wondered, do Frontier's and Xterra's use the same shackles?
Yes.

As for the revolvers, notice that the truck shown above does not have shocks mounted. Unless you cut a hole through the bed and run a much longer shock, the revolvers will gain you no flex or articulation. The shock will be the limiting factor.
PrerunnerGreg said:
Yes.

As for the revolvers, notice that the truck shown above does not have shocks mounted. Unless you cut a hole through the bed and run a much longer shock, the revolvers will gain you no flex or articulation. The shock will be the limiting factor.
Damn know I have to rethink the rear, Greg what do you suggest for the rear for max articulation?
just get custom mounts made up
I disagree, and agree with Greg, they won't do what they do in the pics, the shocks are your limits(or limiting straps) but yes they do give you more articulation over stock
Ok, so if I go with the longest shock possible and extended brake lines and ABS line mods i'll still be ahead of other rear lifts as far as articulation?
heinzee said:
Ok, so if I go with the longest shock possible and extended brake lines and ABS line mods i'll still be ahead of other rear lifts as far as articulation?
I think so, but you have to remember Greg builds some radical stuff so from his perspective. It probobly doesn't compared to what he would do to get articultaion:)
its offroad apples to off road oranges lol


pre runner greg does more high speed pre runner type stuff lol

revolvers are meant for rock crawlers
Ya I don't do the high speed stuff. Nice and slow baby.
heinzee, how soon are you planning on getting the revolvers?
Im not talking about desert/high speed stuff at all. Lets look at what makes the truck articulate and the limits. Im only gonna discuss rear suspension here. First is "up travel" or compression. This is limited by the factory bumpstop touching the frame. The other direction or extension or droop is limited by the shock itself. Now stock Frontiers use a shock with about 7.5" (shock is 21" extended, 13.5 compressed). Now for every inch more travel you need a 2" longer shock. We can also get a slightly longer shock in there do to the fact that the factory shock doesnt compress 100% at full bump. We are also going to excluded the fact that the spring will also limit articulation (typically compression). But lets say we run the longest Bilstein shocks that will fit with a mild 2-3" lift, these are 23.5" long and offer 8.5" of travel. Hardly enough travel to require more deflection than the factory spring will offer. BUT, lets assume you wanted to run 10" of wheel travel (still within the factory springs ability, or at least require removal of the overlaod), that would require you to lower the bottom shock mount and add'l 3" and you'd loose 3" of clearance under the lower shock mount that already hangs down. The only way to get a longer shock, that doesnt loose ground clearance, is to go up...through the bed.
This bring me back to the revolvers, and the fact that a tire needs to have weight on it for traction...why we love lockers. Even if you did get more articualtion from a shackle, unless you run a softer spring and more "up travel" you wont gain forward motion until you put LESS load on the compressed tire and more load on the etxtended tire. This is done with very soft springs and a ton of wheel travel (modern rock crawler stuff). Otherwise, a locker will basically do the same until the tread patch is overcome and you loose traction Now here's the kicker, you cna soften the springs to the point that they articulate all overthe place, but with limited wheel travel the vehicle would be nearly undrivable, and carrying any load would be out of the question.
One last thing. Because leaf springs act as a giant sway bar and pregressively reduce articulation as they twist, the revolvers or orbit eyes will actually allow the spring to compress (not extend) a bit more as the spring is not trying to twist itself. This is more of a byproduct of the revolvers design and the way it can rotate. You can also get similar results by running a narrower spring or bigger/softer spring bushings.
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