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Replacing RF Head Unit and ASWC & Bluetooth Bypass info - Pointers

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I didn't want this info to be lost in my other thread about replacing the head unit in my 2010 Crew Cab with Rockford Fosgate system, but just wanted to throw some info out there for those of you that may be contemplating it. Before I started, I was searching high and low for these answers, and did not have definitive ones -- so I compiled some info thats easy to find. If a mod wants to sticky it, feel free.

First -- this is based upon replacing your head unit with one that only has a 2.5V preamp output. Many of you have replaced their units with 4.0V preamp units, and were happy with the results. In that instance, I believe it was sometimes necessary to either utilize a relay for the remote amp turn on, or to incorporate ground loop isolators to minimize popping that is heard when changing sources.

For 2.5V head units, you are faced with another issue. Crutchfield or other online stores that utilize Metra's database will always tell you to use the 70-7551 Metra interface for hooking up your new head unit to the factory system. This will work -- BUT -- you won't be happy -- especially if you were hoping to achieve at least the same level of audio you had with the factory head unit. The 2.5V output is at its peak, meaning full volume. The RF amp expects at a normal volume about 2V based upon the schematics in the Nissan service manual. At 50% volume, you're only going to be around 1.25V (assuming the voltage change is linear) -- and what you will end up with is the RF amp being fed by too low a level.
To correctly utilize a 2.5V system, you will have to give up on the prospect of using the RCA pre-amp outputs from the head unit. Instead, you will need to use the high-level speaker outputs that your new head unit has. You will also need to use a generally decent quality LOC (line output converter) to now step down the power from the head unit to something more sensible for the RF amp.

If you look at PAC, they make a couple of different units. The OEM-2 unit will achieve this, and based upon what I read, was a very good unit. However, it appears to have been discontinued and replaced with the SOEM-4. Let me save you time and money: DO NOT USE THE SOEM-4. It is a piece of junk. It is very poorly constructed, has terrible reviews on any site you look at, will introduce an annoying hiss to your speakers whenever it is on, is abnormally large (since the Fronty has a bit of room in the bottom part of the area under the radio pod, it will fit --- but you will need to carefully maneuver all of your harnesses to make it so.)

The SOEM-4 lasted just about 2 weeks in my truck.. I was not very pleased with it. So, the solution? Read below...

PAC also makes the ROEM-NIS2. This is a kit that uses the PAC OEM-1 LOC, and also provides the proper vehicle harness for our Frontiers. Yes, their application guide lists it as being used for a bunch of other Nissan and Infiniti systems with the Bose system. BUT, it performs exactly the same and WILL work with the Frontier RF system with NO MODIFICATIONS. The construction and quality of the OEM-1 used in the ROEM-NIS2 is superior to the SOEM-4. Its in a solid case, the electronics appear to be soldered well, and the components are not noisy. You will get a clean audio signal to your RF amp.

I found mine on Amazon for $29. Installation was a breeze. Simply connect one end of the unit to the two Nissan factory harnesses (Meaning you do NOT need the 70-7550 or 70-7551). On the other end, the OEM-1 has a 2nd harness that has speaker wire inputs. If you read the instructions, they specify TWO (+) for every (-). One (+) is the high level, the other (+) is the low level. DO NOT do what an Amazon reviewer said and tie the HIGH/LOW together. You only need to hook up the HIGH (+). The 4 LOW (+) wires you will tape up and not use. The rest of the wires are pass-through wires for the vehicle harness:

- YELLOW: To your new stereo's constant 12V
- RED: To the stereo's 12V Accessory Input
- ORANGE: To the stereo's illumination lead
- BLUE/WHITE: To the remote amp turn-on lead of the stereo
- BLACK: To the ground lead on the stereo. I also took this lead and grounded to the chassis. I used one of the two screwholes that are left empty from the factory radio bracket once the Metra dash kit is installed

Tied up/Not Used: Grey/Green/Purple/White leads that have RED stripes (these are the LOW (+) leads). Also, solid BLUE is not used (Power Antenna) -- you do not want to utilize the power antenna lead as an amp remote, since some head units only energize this when the FM radio is active. The Blue/White remote lead is active at all times.

For adjusting gains, this is a personal preference -- But I found that adjusting the head unit to 75% and adjusting the gains to the point where there was no distortion was perfect. Turned completely to the left, the arrow on the gain pots points to about the 11:00 position. Setting them to about 12:00 was perfect. Out of the box, they were set to about 3:00 which was too high. The max they go to is about the 7:00 position.

I hope that helps anyone that may have been searching for definitive answers on this.

This is the ROEM-NIS2:




INFORMATION FOR ASWC AND NISSAN BLUETOOTH BYPASS:

If you are using the Axxess ASWC steering wheel interface, and your Frontier was originally equipped with Bluetooth controls, you will need to bypass the Nissan bluetooth module under the passenger seat in order to use the two phone buttons on the steering wheel. To do so, gain access to the bluetooth module under the seat -- it is easier if you can remove the seat, but I was able to do it by just pushing the passenger seat all the way forward and working on the harness from the back seat.

Metra Document on Bluetooth Bypass: http://contentdocs.installernet.com/documents/vehicle/12144.pdf

At the bluetooth control unit under the passenger seat -- the unit is the smaller unit closest to the door. On the harness, I ended up cutting the 6 wires needed for the bypass:

Pins 12 (Brown) & 17 (Violet) -- Connect together
Pins 13 (Blue) & 18 (Light Green) - Connect together
Pins 14 (Green) & 19 (Orange) - Connect together

Then on the 16-pin connector that previously plugged into your factory stereo (this will end up unplugged and not used with an aftermarket stereo), I did the following:

Black wire of ASWC to GROUND.
Red wire of ASWC to a 12V ACC wire (RED, if you are using the Metra harness)
Grey/Red wire of ASWC to VIOLET on Nissan 16-pin harness
White/Green wire of ASWC to LIGHT GREEN on Nissan 16-pin harness
Finally -- the ORANGE wire in the Nissan 16-pin harness gets connected to GROUND.

If you are curious what these wires are, the service manual says this:

- Pin 12 (Steering switch signal A INPUT) bridged to Pin 17 (Steering switch signal A OUTPUT)
- Pin 13 (Steering switch signal B INPUT) bridged to Pin 18 (Steering switch signal B OUTPUT)
- Pin 14 (Negative for both Signal A & B Input) bridged to Pin 19 (Negative for both Signal A & B Output)


If you go this route, make sure you unpair any phones from the Nissan system, and turn off the bluetooth, before bypassing the controls. The bluetooth module feeds the audio system in the RF system, and without steering wheel controls, if they are still paired/on, if you get a call and the Nissan system pairs up with your cell - you'll have no way of answering it.

ASWC Known Issues & Fixes

Unfortunately ASWC units that shipped with firmware prior to Feb 2012 have a bug where the ASWC will randomly change the source on the radio. The fix is to update the firmware to at least Version 3.06. The downside is, I dont believe there is any indication on the box or unit to determine which version is installed. There are 4 routes you can take to fix this:

1) You can send the unit to me and pay for shipping and $5.15 return shipping and I'll be happy to update for you. See http://www.clubfrontier.org/forums/f24/free-aswc-firmware-upgrades-79135/ for more info

2) Purchase Metra's official firmware updater cable for appx $40 and update the firmware yourself

3) Go to a local stereo shop and see if they will update the unit for you.. They will likely charge you, especiallly if you didn't purchase from them.

4) Purchase the cable LAFrontier mentions here for appx $5 and update the firmware yourself: http://www.clubfrontier.org/forums/...ve-metra-usb-cab-programming-cable-5-a-79367/ -- this may or may not work because the Metra updater app may not recognize the proper hardware ID for the cable - YMMV. The updater expects a cable with VID_0403 and PID_6001 (Vendor ID 0403 is Future Technology Devices International - FTDI)

The official cable that Metra sells is actually FTDI Model TTL-232R-5V-WE and can be found around the web for as low as $18 in its "non-Metra OEM" form -- but the "WE" designation in the part number indicates "Wire Ends", meaning you will also need to attach a connector to the bare wires.

Rick
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thanks for the post.. ill look at this tomorrow... I spent over 5 hours trying to get my bluetooth to work today! The directions from Pioneer was followed to a Tee! No luck at all! Maybe there is something different on here. God, I hope! It had me mad, so I bailed on it and will go at it again tomorrow with a clear head
Hopefully a quick question: The Metra document says to unplug the 32-pin harness from the bluetooth module.... However, it doesn't mention that it needs to be plugged in again. So.... do I plug it in again after connecting the 3 wires? Thanks in advance!
Hopefully a quick question: The Metra document says to unplug the 32-pin harness from the bluetooth module.... However, it doesn't mention that it needs to be plugged in again. So.... do I plug it in again after connecting the 3 wires? Thanks in advance!
You are bypassing the BT module, so, no - you do not plug it back in. And read carefully -- you are using 6 wires from that harness, not 3.
You are bypassing the BT module, so, no - you do not plug it back in. And read carefully -- you are using 6 wires from that harness, not 3.
LOL! I meant connecting the 3 wires to their counterparts in order to pass the signal straight to the ASWC box..... Thanks for both!
Hey this may be a dumb question but is there a way to use the bluetooth harness ports and run jumper wires from?:
12 to 17
13 to 18
14 to 19
And if so I could do the same for connecting the 16 pin harness on the head unit to the wires of the axxess? Im not sure if you could just strip a wire and push it in the port or maybe could buy something designed to do that. I dont really want to splice the factory wires if I could help it.
The information from this thread really needs to be included in this thread:
Just wrapped up installing a Kenwood DNX 9990HD and ASWC in my 2012 Frontier SV CC. My SV has the factory BT and audio/phone controlls on the steering wheel.

In order to properly map the Kenwood hands free functions to the Frontier steering wheel controls, you MUST do the following additional steps. When the ASWC first initializes for the Kenwood, the "Mode" (source selector) command will be mapped to the "Answer call/PTT" button on the steering wheel, and the PTT command will be mapped to the "Mode/hangup" button.

1.
First, before you power up the ASWC and let it auto-detect your Kenwood, complete the additional wire jumpers outlined in the attached PDF. You will unplug the factory plug from the factory BT module located under the passenger seat. Jump the six wires as outlined in the attached pdf, I have verified this is correct. This is essentially bypassing the BT module for the steering wheel controls, which is necessary to use the buttons with an aftermarket HU.

2. fire up the ASWC and let it auto-detect the Kenwood. If you already powered up the ASWC before doing the BT bypass above, reset the ASWC and let it auto-detect again.

3. confirm proper mating of ASWC. All functions should work, except you'll notice the "Mode" for selecting audio sources and "hangup" for ending calls is incorrectly mapped to the PTT button on the steering wheel, and the Mode button on the steering wheel does nothing.

4. refer to page 11 of the ASWC guide, towards bottom, under where it says "* If the ASWC has been in the vehicle before:" Do not use the instructions on page 15/16 as they don't quite explain the remapping process correctly.

5. Follow the directions exactly to re-map the "Source/Mode" function (#5) to the actual "Mode" button on your steering wheel. This will change your audio sources and hang up / end an in-progress call on the Kenwood 9990HD

Continue through and map the "Off Hook" ASWC command (#13) to the PTT button on the steering wheel (the button with the speaking face and diagonal phone handset). This function will answer an incoming call on the Kenwood 9990HD.

Continue through and end the remapping process. Now give it a shot and you'll be all set!

Note that the Kenwood HU's do not support the "PTT" command, so best you are going to get is using the steering wheel PTT button to answer calls. Overall not bad though, very pleased with the ASWC and Kenwood 9990HD. I had to figure this all out myself, I called Metra tech support but they were absolutely NO HELP.
On other notes:
Hey this may be a dumb question but is there a way to use the bluetooth harness ports and run jumper wires from?:
12 to 17
13 to 18
14 to 19
And if so I could do the same for connecting the 16 pin harness on the head unit to the wires of the axxess? Im not sure if you could just strip a wire and push it in the port or maybe could buy something designed to do that. I dont really want to splice the factory wires if I could help it.
I tried inserting the ASWC wires into the harness plug.... Didn't work particularly well, as I ended up bending the wires too much. Not sure if the wires will actually fit though. Just splice the ASWC wires into the harness, paying close attention to the wiring diagram! You'll be fine!

EDIT: BTW, I just read that jumpers are unreliable, so that probably isn't a good idea..... Although I wish I had thought about that b4 doing the bluetooth module....
I tried hooking this up tonight and I only have the Front Drivers speakers working. Recheck my wiring and solder and it's all legit. Any ideas? Could I have bought a bad ROEM-NIS2?
I did have a bad ROEM-NIS2 after all. The inside smelled all burnt and you could see corrosion across the circuits. The seller is sending me another unit.
Hey Guys, very new here and with car audio, so thanks for the patience.

I have a 2008 with the RF system, and I am happy with the audio quality.

I am looking to swap out the head unit with an Alpine ilx-007. It has three 2V pre-outs.

What I have is the metra 7553 harness. Will I still get good sound quality with this set-up or is there another way? Thanks
I know it’s an old thread but it’s been useful for the upgrades I’m attempting. I’m trying to remove the RF HU and a Pioneer is going in. The PAC ROEM-NIS2 seems to have gone smoothly. Now I’m trying to put in a PAC SWI-CP2 but the colours in the instructions don’t seem to match the colours on the factory harnesses. Anyone do one of these lately?
I'm going through the same with the SWI-CP2, if I followed pac's instructions I'd be connecting pins to blank spots.
I should have updated this when it was fresh in my head. It tried emailing PAC support but figured they wouldn’t get back to me on the weekend so I tried a few things. I’m pretty sure I used the colours that the instructions said which meant the locations did not match the instructions.
Hopefully that was it, I'm going to try that later today.
I'm somewhat dumb, but got it working. Yes, colour match what it says for the 16pin connector wires and colour match the red/yellow to the main harness for power. Plus one of the blacks to ground.
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