[TBJ]

I bought a new tacoma in 2017 for 36k. Put 60k miles on it in 3.5 years and sold it for 29k. Tacos have crazy resale value. Will frontier ever reach that? IDK. I do see your point and also believe you could end up being right. If the taco brand is destroyed beyond repair I think it's fair to assume frontier can fill that void. Toyota will have to REALLY screw up for that to happen though.

I don't think that is going to happen. Toyota moving their Tacoma plant to Mexico could hurt their reputation some, but they are a great car manufacturer. I think it is nice to see the newly designed Frontier selling well and getting some recognition.

 

[TBJ]

Just observations/talking around on used car listings. Frontiers are generally cheaper priced. When I was getting trade in values for mine (out of curiosity + shopping for second car like a Versa/Micra or Mazda3) I was getting ridiculously lowballed. Meanwhile the same dealers will sell a well used/aged car for almost the same price as it was new.

I was told then that Frontiers aren't in demand and its what the market dictates. One place had a 2014 Tacoma with unverified frame issue with 200000 kms for $30000. So yes, the Frontier will be a bargain and both trucks are basically the same.

Car dealerships salesmen, sounds typical. They were trying that with my 2016 Colorado until I showed them the print outs from Kelly blue book and Edmunds. If the Frontier is selling for less when it is new then I would believe it would be worth less used. That doesn't mean it has depreciated at a quicker rate than the other truck brands. As for the Tacoma, I think it will be a long time before any other brand will hold it's value like them, but you are paying a lot more for a new Tacoma with the same options or less. It is always a trade off.

 

[D13FrontierLE]

For those that bash the Frontier for its re-sale value... it's not wise to invest in trucks (overall vehicles), all depreciate, some quicker than others. I bought my 2nd gen for its simplicity and reliability; I would think that is also the advantage the 3rd gen has.

 

[Slavic Boer]

Car dealerships salesmen, sounds typical. They were trying that with my 2016 Colorado until I showed them the print outs from Kelly blue book and Edmunds. If the Frontier is selling for less when it is new then I would believe it would be worth less used. That doesn't mean it has depreciated at a quicker rate than the other truck brands. As for the Tacoma, I think it will be a long time before any other brand will hold it's value like them, but you are paying a lot more for a new Tacoma with the same options or less. It is always a trade off.

Car dealers don't go by those "book values" that we can use. Its a guide of what you should get. They make calls around and see who would want your vehicle and how much they'd pay kind of thing. I remember showing a VW dealer what my Frontier should be ($24700) and they offered $20000. My Frontier needed nothing, no accidents, kept all my maintenance records, oil sprayed and the tires were even almost new. I'm not sure if the 3rd Gen will get more love.

 

[Ruddigger]

Public perception IS changing, but I wouldnt hold my breath for those resale values.

 

[Snakebait]

Drive your trucks and stop worrying about resale value. I'm sure a lot on here keep em for so long that they wouldn't get much for anything really. I'm not worried about resale on my Frontier and if I was then I wouldn't have done all stuff that I've done to it. Gee, what's the resale value of my 1987 Jeep Comanche that I bought brand new 37 years ago. Resale value never occurred to me when I bought it and same with my Frontier. Dude down the street from me with his several years old Tacoma told me he bought for resale value when I showed him my Frontier and told him that his Tacoma wasn't better than my Frontier. 🤠

 

[GreenerFrontier]

Car dealers don't go by those "book values" that we can use. Its a guide of what you should get. They make calls around and see who would want your vehicle and how much they'd pay kind of thing. ...

From what I understand, dealers (at least the better set up ones) subscribe to a service that gives them real-time information on what similar vehicles are fetching wholesale at all the auctions, competitors pricing, trends, etc. They may call around to see if they can flip the trade quickly to some smaller used car lot, but the wholesale price at this very moment is what the car is worth to them, and they work off that figure. We all know it's their job to pay you the least they possibly can for a trade...and they have all the tools to make that happen.

 

[Selway11]

For what it's worth, I've gotten trade-in values on mine from 4-5 different dealers this month. They've all been within a grand or so of each other, and also match the publicly available blue books.

 

[bajasam]

Toyota moving their Tacoma plant to Mexico could hurt their reputation some, but they are a great car manufacturer.

Frontier is the first american made vehicle I've bought, all others were canadian(chevy) and mexican(dodge). So far out of five trucks the 05 dodge 1ton diesel was the highest quality as far as assembly QC and fit and finish, the frontier has been the poorest quality as far as assembly fit and finish with excessive rattles and cheap looking interior. So mex 1,USA 0 doubt toyota will be harmed by building in Mx. And I'm not disappointed in my frontier as I knew it was a value brand going in and had bought a new sentra before for a child leaving for college and it was of similar quality.

 

[Malcolm]

My first Datsun was in July of 1973, a brand new 240Z, and there's been at least one "Datsun" in my garage ever since then. My Frontier is my 9th Datsun/Nissan/Infiniti. The 240Z really put all Japanese cars on the map in the US, the 240Z pretty much killed the British sports car import brands and others in the US, cheaper, better performance, Ten year straight 1970 - 1979 SCCA C Production champion. I think they're pretty much over the management issues they had a while back.
This one replaced my '73 when it rusted to death 30 years ago and it's still a blast to drive;
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The Datsun 510 was a blast had one for years.

 

[TBJ]

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[23Pro4X]

I understand that you're excited for potential re-sale value of our trucks, but a couple things to keep in mind imho

1) nissan is a "value brand". Always has been and probably always will be. Once Toyota fixes their issues. You honestly think that consumer report (and others) won't praise toyota once again?

2) yeah, Toyota is having issues with their turbo 6 cylinders and a main bearing failing.
They have already addressed this issue and a fix will be coming shortly from what I'm seeing/reading online.

3) Toyota has always been among the most if not THE most reliable vehicle on the road today. Hence their crazy resale value. New models always have quirks. Heck my 11 hyundai sonata first year turbo engine had cylinder 2 issues. Took about 2 years maybe 3 for hyundai to acknowledge this fault and a repair (if necessary after inspections) was completed. Toyota seems to be more on the ball.... yeah yeah we can debate hyundai and their crap quality all we want, but tats not the point of my rebuttal.

4) sure used vehicle market has gone up, but I feel with dealers having to face crazy interest rates right now, prices will have to come down. Look at some dealerships with used on their lots. One by my house has been sitting on some corvettes/cameros and jeep grand cheerokees since last spring. I can only imagine the carry costs they are incurring each month.

Personally, I don't put much stock in resale value. I drive my vehicles for a minimum of 10 years and then it's basically worthless to anyone except me as it's paid for and I'm not taking negative equity in a trade up situation.

Anyway, that's my $0.02

For those of you that do track the resale and trade off every couple years: I wish you a positive equity situation and may your next vehicle be as trouble free as you hope for.... and if it's first model year... maybe wait a year. Lol

Toyota buried the Tacoma reliability by moving production to Mexico, this is the end of Tacoma.

 

[Colorado Z]

Toyota buried the Tacoma reliability by moving production to Mexico, this is the end of Tacoma.

One can only wish. Unfortunately Toyota has way too much of a Cult following to be taken out so easily

 

[TBJ]

Frontier is the first american made vehicle I've bought, all others were canadian(chevy) and mexican(dodge). So far out of five trucks the 05 dodge 1ton diesel was the highest quality as far as assembly QC and fit and finish, the frontier has been the poorest quality as far as assembly fit and finish with excessive rattles and cheap looking interior. So mex 1,USA 0 doubt toyota will be harmed by building in Mx. And I'm not disappointed in my frontier as I knew it was a value brand going in and had bought a new sentra before for a child leaving for college and it was of similar quality.

I don't know which model Frontier you bought, but the interior of my Pro-4X completely blows away any Colorado Z71 that I have ever owned. After eleven months of driving it up and down the East Coast on long road trips, I am still amazed on the quality and how quiet the interior is compared to the other five midsize trucks I have owned over the last thirty years. It definitely has to be the best built and most quiet interior of any midsize truck that I have ever owned.

 

[Bendix]

But....but.....the 22RE....


LOL.

 

[JVRaley]

Toyota buried the Tacoma reliability by moving production to Mexico, this is the end of Tacoma.

We don’t make em much better up here in case you hadn’t noticed. Made in USA doesn’t mean what it used to. Doesn’t mean much at all really since all the components are truly manufactured somewhere else.

 

[TBJ]

We don’t make em much better up here in case you hadn’t noticed. Made in USA doesn’t mean what it used to. Doesn’t mean much at all really since all the components are truly manufactured somewhere else.

From what I have read about Japanese trucks, probably the best ones were built in Japan. I still would rather buy a truck built in a U.S. plant verses Mexico. I guess it is all a roll of the dice.

 

[Colorado Z]

From what I have read about Japanese trucks, probably the best ones were built in Japan. I still would rather buy a truck built in a U.S. plant verses Mexico. I guess it is all a roll of the dice.

For what it's worth it is easy to tell where a vehicle was built simply but the first few digits of the VIN. Also when looking at a New Vehicles they have a tag on the Windshield that states where the vehicle was made and where parts came from.

 

[TBJ]

For what it's worth it is easy to tell where a vehicle was built simply but the first few digits of the VIN. Also when looking at a New Vehicles they have a tag on the Windshield that states where the vehicle was made and where parts came from.

It also will tell you on the door plate which month and year it was built along with where it was built.

 

[Colorado Z]

It also will tell you on the door plate which month and year it was built along with where it was built.

Unless there was a change in design on the placard(Obviously the VIN had been there of course) I have not seen any sign of where it was built on there