[Phlfwd22]

I didn’t think the truck felt sluggish stock, but wow does that thing make a difference!

 

[QuesoDelDiablo]

Did you happen to check with Nissan to find out if that will affect the warranty?

*I know that pedal Commander says it will not, I'm just wondering if that's been verified..

 

[White Wolf]

Did you happen to check with Nissan to find out if that will affect the warranty?

*I know that pedal Commander says it will not, I'm just wondering if that's been verified..

Doesn't take long to remove it. Leaves no trace. I had a HikeIt X9 on my 14 Tundra. Took me less than 5 minutes to take it off. Doesn't void the warranty. Simply changes throttle response.

 

[Phlfwd22]

Yeah there’s no computer coding or anything so it’s a quick 2 min disconnect, plus everything back in as normal and don’t tell Nissan about it 🤫

 

[Pro-2X]

I looked on the pedal commander website and they didn’t have anything for a 2022. Will the 2021 work?

 

[White Wolf]

I looked on the pedal commander website and they didn’t have anything for a 2022. Will the 2021 work?

Prolly. Same tranny/3.8. Did you get the tranny TSB update? My 22 doesn't need a P Commander or a Hikeit X9 which is better with more options.

 

[Ninety-9 SE-L]

I take it this device does nothing more than re-map the throttle position vs. your foot position? I joke about "Eco Mode" on many newer cars because they don't actually make the vehicle more powerful or more economical at the push of a button, they simply 'save you from yourself.'

0% is still 0%, 100% is still 100%, but in Eco mode, the pedal is mapped so you have to push harder to get 50% making the vehicle feel more lethargic and making people less inclined to drive aggressively. In Sport mode, the pedal is mapped so 50% is nearly at the top, making the vehicle feel more like it's tugging at the leash. In other words, it's a complete waste of $300 unless you absolutely have no self-control.

 

[Pro-2X]

Not sure if I did or not. Have had it about a month. I wouldn’t say it “needs” it, but I am looking more for the flexibility as I do drive it on work trips and eco would be beneficial.

 

[Pro-2X]

I take it this device does nothing more than re-map the throttle position vs. your foot position? I joke about "Eco Mode" on many newer cars because they don't actually make the vehicle more powerful or more economical at the push of a button, they simply 'save you from yourself.'

0% is still 0%, 100% is still 100%, but in Eco mode, the pedal is mapped so you have to push harder to get 50% making the vehicle feel more lethargic and making people less inclined to drive aggressively. In Sport mode, the pedal is mapped so 50% is nearly at the top, making the vehicle feel more like it's tugging at the leash. In other words, it's a complete waste of $300 unless you absolutely have no self-control.

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That would be me with the no self control.

 

[White Wolf]

I take it this device does nothing more than re-map the throttle position vs. your foot position? I joke about "Eco Mode" on many newer cars because they don't actually make the vehicle more powerful or more economical at the push of a button, they simply 'save you from yourself.'

0% is still 0%, 100% is still 100%, but in Eco mode, the pedal is mapped so you have to push harder to get 50% making the vehicle feel more lethargic and making people less inclined to drive aggressively. In Sport mode, the pedal is mapped so 50% is nearly at the top, making the vehicle feel more like it's tugging at the leash. In other words, it's a complete waste of $300 unless you absolutely have no self-control.

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Not that simple as you make it out to be. We had this same discussion on the Tundra forum. Nothing to do with self control. Lol. My 07 Tundra throttle mapping was so sensitive. I got used to it. 5.7L/380 hp/420 ft lbs of torque with standard 4.30:1 rear gear combined with a near bullet proof Aisin 6 speed tranny. A simple press on the fly by wire throttle would throw your passengers heads back. That touchy. My 14 Tundra throttle response was tamed down. A lot. Some Tundra forum members said, "just push the Tow/Haul switch." Tow/Haul mode has absolutely nothing to do with throttle response....it simply changed the tranny mapping. Gets confused a lot. I'm assuming my Frontier Tow/Haul mode is the same. My 14 Tundra was lame as far as throttle response. The powers that be a Yota decided to take down the throttle response but made it too tame. Has nothing to do with your foot. It's fly by wire throttle response. Not like in the old days where your foot pedal was connected by a physical wire to the carb where you actually had control of throttle response. Don't confuse the two. Quite frankly my new 22 has quite decent fly by wire throttle response and I don't intend to buy a throttle response controller. BTW...Banks recently came out with a better version than the Pedal Commander for the current Gen Tundra. It's all about state of the art science......I live and breathe these things. Stats, verification, Uncertainty calcs... 42 years now

 

[White Wolf]

Not sure if I did or not. Have had it about a month. I wouldn’t say it “needs” it, but I am looking more for the flexibility as I do drive it on work trips and eco would be beneficial.

Options are always good.

 

[Phlfwd22]

I looked on the pedal commander website and they didn’t have anything for a 2022. Will the 2021 work?

Yes I emailed them and they said 2021 version works on a 2022 so that’s what I bought and have had 0 issues

 

[Phlfwd22]

Prolly. Same tranny/3.8. Did you get the tranny TSB update? My 22 doesn't need a P Commander or a Hikeit X9 which is better with more options.

What is the tranny tsb update?

 

[White Wolf]

What is the tranny tsb update?

Sorry for the delay,,,,, You have a 22 so doesn't affect you. Been a long day. Ha! You really think you need a P Commander or equivalent? Mine seems to have plenty of pep as is.

 

[Ninety-9 SE-L]

Not that simple as you make it out to be. We had this same discussion on the Tundra forum. Nothing to do with self control. Lol. My 07 Tundra throttle mapping was so sensitive. I got used to it. 5.7L/380 hp/420 ft lbs of torque with standard 4.30:1 rear gear combined with a near bullet proof Aisin 6 speed tranny. A simple press on the fly by wire throttle would throw your passengers heads back. That touchy. My 14 Tundra throttle response was tamed down. A lot. Some Tundra forum members said, "just push the Tow/Haul switch." Tow/Haul mode has absolutely nothing to do with throttle response....it simply changed the tranny mapping. Gets confused a lot. I'm assuming my Frontier Tow/Haul mode is the same. My 14 Tundra was lame as far as throttle response. The powers that be a Yota decided to take down the throttle response but made it too tame. Has nothing to do with your foot. It's fly by wire throttle response. Not like in the old days where your foot pedal was connected by a physical wire to the carb where you actually had control of throttle response. Don't confuse the two. Quite frankly my new 22 has quite decent fly by wire throttle response and I don't intend to buy a throttle response controller. BTW...Banks recently came out with a better version than the Pedal Commander for the current Gen Tundra. It's all about state of the art science......I live and breathe these things. Stats, verification, Uncertainty calcs... 42 years now

If you have multiple vehicles, it's possible that they all behave differently and you might want to level that out. To me, that's not worth $300.

Likely, the petal got re-mapped because of the fact that your 07 was too sensitive and people didn't like having their heads thrown back into the seats for a tiny amount of throttle.

Here's something to remember, while cable throttles did open the butterfly valve 0-100%, the engine's response was NOT linear. With cable throttle, the difference between 5% and 25% throttle is greater than the difference between 25% and 100%. That is because 25% is 5X greater than 5%. 100% is only 4X greater than 25%. There is a better explainer on YouTube. In a nutshell, the engine is starving at Idle. Giving it just a small amount of air makes a huge difference in power output. Once you've reached 25% throttle, the engine is no longer starving for air. Moving from 25% to 100% is not as dramatic.

Throttle-by-wire allowed manufacturers to fix this problem by mapping the throttle to feel more linear and more responsive throughout the entire pedal range. Eco modes could make the engine feel much more dull while Sport modes can make the engine feel more sharp, but it's really all in your head. It gives the car a different 'personality' but it does not actually change how much horsepower is required to do a certain task. People think that Eco mode will give them better fuel economy on the highway. Of course, that's not possible by re-mapping the throttle.

You can ONLY increase your fuel economy by:
1. Increasing Thermal Efficiency (or driving at the most thermally efficient RPM).
2. Reducing Drag Coefficient (or driving at a lower speed to reduce Drag Force).

 

[JetBlack]

What is the tranny tsb update?

Here you go.

 

[White Wolf]

If you have multiple vehicles, it's possible that they all behave differently and you might want to level that out. To me, that's not worth $300.

Likely, the petal got re-mapped because of the fact that your 07 was too sensitive and people didn't like having their heads thrown back into the seats for a tiny amount of throttle.

Here's something to remember, while cable throttles did open the butterfly valve 0-100%, the engine's response was NOT linear. With cable throttle, the difference between 5% and 25% throttle is greater than the difference between 25% and 100%. That is because 25% is 5X greater than 5%. 100% is only 4X greater than 25%. There is a better explainer on YouTube. In a nutshell, the engine is starving at Idle. Giving it just a small amount of air makes a huge difference in power output. Once you've reached 25% throttle, the engine is no longer starving for air. Moving from 25% to 100% is not as dramatic.

Throttle-by-wire allowed manufacturers to fix this problem by mapping the throttle to feel more linear and more responsive throughout the entire pedal range. Eco modes could make the engine feel much more dull while Sport modes can make the engine feel more sharp, but it's really all in your head. It gives the car a different 'personality' but it does not actually change how much horsepower is required to do a certain task. People think that Eco mode will give them better fuel economy on the highway. Of course, that's not possible by re-mapping the throttle.

You can ONLY increase your fuel economy by:
1. Increasing Thermal Efficiency (or driving at the most thermally efficient RPM).
2. Reducing Drag Coefficient (or driving at a lower speed to reduce Drag Force).

I passed on the Pedal Commander for the HikeIt X9 that was on my 14. $170. More features. I'm satisfied with my 22's throttle response as is.

 

[JeffJeff]

My HikeIt X9 is on the way.. new version this week with upgraded firmware for the 32 bit board.. mo betta !

 

[Christopher B Jones]

Well you talked me into getting a Hike It X5. The X9 has to many choices for this simpleton.

 

[VqPowah]

The EVC idrive is far superior lol I did ALOT of research and comparing before I purchased my idrive and I’ll never go without one again lol pedal commander is more money doesn’t work nearly as well, doesn’t last and cause issues… I drive has had zero issues in 10 years 100% American made with 30 day money back guarantee annnd lifetime warranty. If it causes any issues to your vehicle or some how voids your warranty they go good for it. It’s also been dyno proven etc plenty of videos on YouTube, it doesn’t actually add any power just makes it so much smoother and more controllable. Believe they just changed their name to 9drive cause they are expanding to others products as well not just the pedal controller