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Just read this and thought I would share:

"It’s the fact that the last few updates to the Nissan Frontier have been so minimal that’s seen such a stir caused by confirmation of the 2018 model. This time around, there’s going to be the option of a bigger V6 along with the usual 4-cylinder engine, along with a manual six-speed, an automatic five-speed and a traditional manual gearbox option. Huge improvements have been made to the Frontier’s suspension, interior technology has been taken up a dozen notches and the PRO-4X line is shaping up to be nothing short of unstoppable."

 

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Too bad it's butt ugly.

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Source? I mean people had the newest Navara coming as a 2016, then as a 2017, now as a 2018. Sooner or later they will be right. That reads like one of those poorly written robo-blogs. 6 speed manual, 5 speed automatic and traditional manual? I'll bet the automatic has more than 5 speeds. A bigger than 4.0L V6? I can that shaking and vibrating.
 

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I have my 2017 Pro 4x lease coming late Nov. Looks like total refresh will be 2018.
 

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Well if the larger v6 part is true that could be interesting... If Nissan follows the same trend they did with the Titan this could be they are trying to blend the gap between mid size and 1/2 ton, midsize+ maybe? So they would have the 4 cylinder Frontier for the mid size, the large v6 Frontier as a midsize+, gas Titan as 1/2 ton, Titan XD as 1/2 ton+. Would be interesting for sure, a somewhat elegant way to stretch 2 trucks over nearly 3 voids (mid size, full size, and HD)
 

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Aren't those the same articles they ran for the 2017? Let's see, change it from 2017 to 2018 and run it again.

One of the source articles even say's, "This article is just a RUMOR!" at the top. One confirms a diesel (although Nissan has not) and say's the automatic trans is a seven speed (which may be true because the new 2017 Titan (non-xd) has a 7 speed).

The people who really know aren't saying (Nissan) so all of this is just speculation fueled by internet misinformation (it's on the internet, it must be true).

At least we are getting to see a lot of picture of the 2016 Navara.
 

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Latest Motor Trend states new model for the 2018 year built in conjunction with Mercedes Benz, who will sell an upscale version of the Frontier. I guess it's still sit and wait!
 

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Why would they maintain the same transmissions when the market is moving to more and more gears? Why would they keep a 5 speed auto and not go to at least a 6 speed or even 7 speed. Gas mileage and efficiency are the way of the future, so i could only assume they would need to get a couple more gears to get the mileage they need/want.
 

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Best reason I can come up with for why Nissan hasn't made any official announcements is that the new model isn't ready yet. We like to think these big companies have secret "master plans" and act on motives we can only scratch the surface of . . . while in reality things go wrong, mistakes are made, plans have to be changed, etc. I think if the Nissan Frontier/NP300 were ready to go they would bring it on. Bringing out a new vehicle in this country is a huge deal, and Nissan has had the luxury of not having to do it as often as the other manufacturers. Maybe they're out of practice!
 

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Why would they maintain the same transmissions when the market is moving to more and more gears? Why would they keep a 5 speed auto and not go to at least a 6 speed or even 7 speed. Gas mileage and efficiency are the way of the future, so i could only assume they would need to get a couple more gears to get the mileage they need/want.
Adding gears isn't always a simple thing. There can be many risks trying to package more gears in to a case that has to occupy the same space under a vehicle. Between that and introducing an all new design can be opportunity for failure. I've heard of more than one auto company having issues initially when they started in on this more and more gears thing. Is a .5 MPG gain worth dumping a tried and true transmission? How many millions of the current 5 speed auto trans have been on the road for how many years?
 

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Adding gears isn't always a simple thing. There can be many risks trying to package more gears in to a case that has to occupy the same space under a vehicle. Between that and introducing an all new design can be opportunity for failure. I've heard of more than one auto company having issues initially when they started in on this more and more gears thing. Is a .5 MPG gain worth dumping a tried and true transmission? How many millions of the current 5 speed auto trans have been on the road for how many years?
i agree but they are going to have to meet new emission and fleet mpg standards for 2020 i believe. Plus the Tacoma and GM twins are getting better mileage. You can also throw in the Ridgeline if you must which barely gets better mileage than the gasser twins. Jeep is coming out with a truck and i thought ford was trying to get back into the market as well. The midsize truck market is heating up and i think Nissan can keep accepting last place or they can do something about it and make a competitor to increase market share.
 

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Too bad it's butt ugly.

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I got a peek at this one earlier, and it caused me to run out and buy my 2016 :surprise: . My 2007 was in good shape, and didn't have 100K miles on it, but by the time I'd be ready to trade, it was gonna be this butt-ugly hideous thing. I decided that I'd rather have the older-styling and trustworthy-ness of the older styling/model.

Nissan is sorta like the Colt Manufacturing Company. Everyone else makes really good 1911 pistols now, yet Colt still makes frumpy things that still need some refinement. (and I still shoot a Colt >:D ).
 

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The way these new trucks are looking. Yeesh. It's really turning me against Nissan trucks. The Titan is just a friggin eyesore, I don't care what its packing under the hood. Not that I was looking to upgrade from my Frontier anyways but man, they sure making it hard to look at Nissan's if I was. I think the only thing I could ever look for as an improvement on the 2013 that I own is to allow the drivers seat to scoot back just a little further. I've been toying the idea around but once I get done with my other project truck and have time I may revisit the idea of doing that in my Frontier. I just can't afford to have too many vehicles in pieces, lol...
 

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If they put a six speed in a long bed again I'd be there in a flash to trade my 2016 in. As much as I like it, it's not as enjoyable as my last one was rowing the gears.
What I find amazing is all this EPA rules crap we have to choke on and the rest of the world doesn't have the same standards to go by. Heck, many states here have no emissions testing but NJ is up our butts for everything. Where is equal rules for all?
Things better change in November or we are screwed, remember you reap what you sow.



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If the 2017 is just a refresh of the current model, I would be happy with that. Unlike some I like the potentially new design of the 2018. I am hoping the new Frontier will stay small and not grow like the Tacoma or GM Twins.
 

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There going to offer a a V6 in the Titan later in the year. I'm thinking the Frontier will get the same motor, direct injection seems to be the route every ones going with, to get more hp and better fuel economy. I looking forward to a new design. I'm sure there will be option to make them look more aggressive and capable 4 wheeler's. I hope they add car play, push button start, better gas mileage and a more refined interior.
 

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I like the new styling, but I care more about a diesel option that gets me 30 mpg and 350 lb.-ft. of torque at 1,500 rpm.
 

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There going to offer a a V6 in the Titan later in the year. I'm thinking the Frontier will get the same motor, direct injection seems to be the route every ones going with, to get more hp and better fuel economy. I looking forward to a new design. I'm sure there will be option to make them look more aggressive and capable 4 wheeler's. I hope they add car play, push button start, better gas mileage and a more refined interior.
Don't assume that direct injection is better. My A4 had it, intake valves would plug up with carbon after 40kmi. With no fuel washing over the valves the gunk builds quickly. Most newer DI motors have an extra injector to "clean" the valves, but I'm still leery after the Audi!
 
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