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Do they all use different brands? Most dealerships use cheap stuff or whatever they can get in bulk. I always bring my own oil and oil filter so I just pay for labor (they always hate me lol). Anyway my first oil change is coming up and I plan on using oem oil for every oil change. Hopefully they would use the same but I doubt it!
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Do they all use different brands? Most dealerships use cheap stuff or whatever they can get in bulk. I always bring my own oil and oil filter so I just pay for labor (they always hate me lol). Anyway my first oil change is coming up and I plan on using oem oil for every oil change. Hopefully they would use the same but I doubt it! View attachment 355769
After working for a dealership I can tell you that they just sign a contract with an oil company and keep it in giant tanks, and the contracts are basically just companies like valvoline so oem oil isn't really a thing
 

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I was surprised to see a Mobil 1 reminder sticker on my windshield when I bought mine new from the dealer…
I’m a huge fan of mobil 1 full synthetic, all I used on my Mazda CX-5 with no problems. I just figured this time I would start with OEM from start to finish on this engine. I mean it was specifically made for this engine, and it’s a great deal for the oil, filter and washer, $40 with tax and shipping with most of 1 qt leftover
 

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Using OEM oil is a way of supporting your local dealer. Any brand named synthetic is just as good. This includes Amazon,

Since 20k miles in my truck, I have used synthetic mostly Mobil 5W-30. At 140k, the engine explodes to life at start and to my seat dyno has not lost any hp.

I think some owners treat their truck like a baby and are very protective of it. The emotion behind this is rational. Don't go overboard.
 

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Using OEM oil is a way of supporting your local dealer. Any brand named synthetic is just as good. This includes Amazon,

Since 20k miles in my truck, I have used synthetic mostly Mobil 5W-30. At 140k, the engine explodes to life at start and to my seat dyno has not lost any hp.

I think some owners treat their truck like a baby and are very protective of it. The emotion behind this is rational. Don't go overboard.
Well I’m a big fan of anything OEM for a vehicle, it was specifically made for the vehicle, but also the price point. $32 for 6 quarts and a filter. That’s not bad at all
 

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Well I’m a big fan of anything OEM for a vehicle, it was specifically made for the vehicle, but also the price point. $32 for 6 quarts and a filter. That’s not bad at all
Sadly it's not made specifically for your vehicle, it's not even made by Nissan, it's just oil ordered from a global distributor who glues a Nissan label on the bottle.
 

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I use blah blah blah brand with no issues. Well, no ****, if you use the cheapest brand from the Walmart shelves you will never have an issue.

The oil to use is what's recommended in your owners manual.
 
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Nissan and other manufacturers do NOT own refineries, a company just slaps the brand's label on it. It's called private labeling, and the company I worked for also made private label products with vanity/dealer names on it.

Think of it this way: I have a 1988 Mazda B2200 truck. How many companies could affor to tool up and supply parts like brake cylinders, etc., for such a small remaining market worldwide? I'd guess three or less actual manufacturers, different boxes....
 
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I use blah blah blah brand with no issues. Well, no ****, if you use the cheapest brand from the Walmart shelves you will never have an issue.

The oil to use is what's recommended in your owners manual.
Thanks, Sounds like you are a highly qualified oil specialist. So basically use whatever the dealer offers?
 

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Thanks, Sounds like you are a highly qualified oil specialist. So basically use whatever the dealer offers?
Here's my advice. Find out what the dealer offers. If it's unacceptable to you take it somewhere else or learn to change the oil yourself. Good luck!

P.S. Do you think the dealer is going to use something that would trigger a warranty claim?

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Here's my advice. Find out what the dealer offers. If it's unacceptable to you take it somewhere else or learn to change the oil yourself. Good luck!
I know how to change my oil, however my vehicle is under warranty and I want receipts and proof that it was changed, after the warranty is up I will still have the dealership do it just for maintenance records, also I live in an apartment and we’re not allowed to work on vehicles on the premises. But Even professionals can make a mistake when it comes to changing oil and mess something up. I would rather have them do it than myself. I don’t want anything voiding the warranty
 

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Well, I was just reminded recently why I don't take my vehicle to the dealership for work I can do myself. I took my truck in for the transmission update. Per SOP they check all the fluids. 800 miles later I discovered they left the oil fill cap off. The dealership didn't give a ****. So, more advice. Check your fill cap, drain plug, and filter immediately after the dealership changes your oil. Personally, I'm much less concerned about what oil they use.
 
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Well, I was just reminded recently why I don't take my vehicle to the dealership for work I can do myself. I took my truck in for the transmission update. Per SOP they check all the fluids. 800 miles later I discovered they left the oil fill cap off. The dealership didn't give a ****. So, more advice. Check your fill cap, drain plug, and filter immediately after the dealership changes your oil. Personally, I'm much less concerned about what oil they use.
Damn that sucks! I remember when I was younger my father always told me after service don’t just rely on them and take the word always check the oil caps, tires anything that they touched. One time Mazda even put a big gouge scratch in my interior and they claim they didn’t do it but I know it was them!
 

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Damn that sucks! I remember when I was younger my father always told me after service don’t just rely on them and take the word always check the oil caps, tires anything that they touched. One time Mazda even put a big gouge scratch in my interior and they claim they didn’t do it but I know it was them!
I think for routine items, dealers use labor quality just above Jiffy Lube. A recent post had an owner with four tires of which one was a different brand. He went in for a tire rotation and found afterwards, the odd tire was in the same place. When confronted, the dealer denied his workers made an error.
 

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I think for routine items, dealers use labor quality just above Jiffy Lube. A recent post had an owner with four tires of which one was a different brand. He went in for a tire rotation and found afterwards, the odd tire was in the same place. When confronted, the dealer denied his workers made an error.
They make errors all the time LOL? Next time I go for a tire rotation I’m gonna put a little bit of white out on two of the tires ha ha that way I can see if they rotate it
 

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Its almost illegal to sell oil that doesn't meet current specs. Dollar General lost a class action for selling obsolete motor oil. Its obviously possible to sell bad oil, but I seriously doubt a dealer would take that chance. They usually buy whatever they can get in bulk locally that meets spec and is cheap. Dollar General Sued Over ‘Obsolete’ Motor Oil

My wife's car is a 2019 Toyota, and the dealer gives "free" lifetime oil changes. I have been taking it there while under warranty just so I have a "relationship". In 3 years twice they put the oil change on the invoice, credited the amount that was charged as free, put a new sticker in the window, but didn't actually change the oil. I called them out both times (I always check the dipstick before I leave, because sometimes dealers forget to actually refill. Both times they stammered and said your not at the needed mileage according to the book so we didn't change the oil, to which I responded why put it on the invoice at all? No answer. I wonder how many people are at the needed mileage and don't get their oil changed.

Both times i took it home and changed it myself, so that's 2 out of 6 trips so far. Kind of looking forward to the warranty running out :)
 

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Its almost illegal to sell oil that doesn't meet current specs. Dollar General lost a class action for selling obsolete motor oil. Its obviously possible to sell bad oil, but I seriously doubt a dealer would take that chance. They usually buy whatever they can get in bulk locally that meets spec and is cheap. Dollar General Sued Over ‘Obsolete’ Motor Oil

My wife's car is a 2019 Toyota, and the dealer gives "free" lifetime oil changes. I have been taking it there while under warranty just so I have a "relationship". In 3 years twice they put the oil change on the invoice, credited the amount that was charged as free, put a new sticker in the window, but didn't actually change the oil. I called them out both times (I always check the dipstick before I leave, because sometimes dealers forget to actually refill. Both times they stammered and said your not at the needed mileage according to the book so we didn't change the oil, to which I responded why put it on the invoice at all? No answer. I wonder how many people are at the needed mileage and don't get their oil changed.

Both times i took it home and changed it myself, so that's 2 out of 6 trips so far. Kind of looking forward to the warranty running out :)
That is just ridiculous! I’m going to start doing that from now on, just literally checking every single thing. I remember when I had my Mazda they used Amalie oil at one dealership, but where I lived in Fort Myers Florida before they used mobile one, Now I live in Tampa
 
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