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I've been casually looking at the Frontier over the past few months, but over this past weekend I decided to get a lot more serious about it. On Saturday I hit up my local dealer and checked out an SV w/ VTP and a Pro4x. Nothing against the SV, but it didn't get a lot of attention after the salesman opened up the Pro.

Took the Pro for a drive and liked everything about it. Even the wife commented on how much more comfortable it was that my Tacoma. Didn't talk numbers with the salesman since I told him I needed to go home and hash out which trans would suit me best first. Here are the factors that I need to consider while making that determination.

1. I have no problems driving a stick...and actually prefer it.
2. My daily commute is 70 miles (75% highway, 25% somewhat city with heavy traffic at times) and the Frontier will be my only vehicle. My research has led me to believe that I should expect 18 or 19 mpg highway from an auto, 20 or more from the 6-speed.
3. I have an 18' boat (3000 lbs.) that I tow and will most likely step up to something in the 22' range (5000+ lbs.) in a year or two. It's about 15 miles to the ramp and I would be pulling it there and back up probably an average of once a week throughout the year.
4. My driveway is about 75' long and I do back the boat in. There is a slight incline down by the street, but nothing too serious. I've read that reverse in the 6-speed is tall and that results in about 5 mph at idle in reverse...a little fast for my liking if you let the clutch fully engage. Backing up to a ramp shouldn't be bad as most I use slope down towards the water so I could let gravity do the work for me.
5. The auto would add $1000 to the purchase price, cost me about $200 more a year in gas and would hopefully give me 200,000 miles of trouble free service. Going with the clutch would save money initially and save money every month, but I suspect I would end up putting that savings into a clutch at some point. The long term cost difference is probably negligible.

I know there is no right or wrong answer here, just looking to get some opinions. I'm really torn. My sensible side says go auto, my other side says get the manual. Thoughts?

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You'll have 4-low for any precision maneuvering in reverse if 4x4/SV-6-sp. You'll also score the VTP items as standard if you go SV w/ 6-sp.

IFF I was going 4x4 and could afford the upgrade = P4X all the way. Either can be had in CC w/ a 6-sp.
 

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Yep. I realize 4LO is an option. There are some twists and turns involved in getting the boat positioned just right in the driveway, so I'm not keen on turning on the 4by and dragging tires/binding the driveline.

I may be able to clear a path through the side yard that would allow me to go around and pull through though...
 

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I drive less than you do, 20-30 miles daily, but then 200 or so on Weekends. I tow two trailers. During the week, a 6x10 full of diving year, about 2500 lbs. On weekends, I tow a 21 foot SeaOx Cuddy with 250HP. About 4000 lbs unloaded, 5300 loaded all the way.

For 20 years, I drove a stick because I wanted to save money and Gas, but towing, especially with a variety of ramps and a 5 foot tide, is just plain easier with an automatic and 4 lo
 

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Get the automatic, you ain't getting any younger, and an automatic is easier to get around in later.


When I was younger, I spent 4 years in the 82nd Abn. Div. I got some good old-fashioned paratrooper knees out of it, too. No big deal until I hit 45 years old, then the knees announced that they were tired of bending to shift the truck in the horrible Louisville traffic.

The automatic is better, not as much fun, but better.
 

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Get the automatic, you ain't getting any younger, and an automatic is easier to get around in later.


When I was younger, I spent 4 years in the 82nd Abn. Div. I got some good old-fashioned paratrooper knees out of it, too. No big deal until I hit 45 years old, then the knees announced that they were tired of bending to shift the truck in the horrible Louisville traffic.

The automatic is better, not as much fun, but better.
Sitting about 45 mins from Fort Bragg and Fayettnam as we speak!! Thank you for your service!!
 

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Sitting about 45 mins from Fort Bragg and Fayettnam as we speak!! Thank you for your service!!
LOL, I was at Bragg in '69, but don't remember Fayetteville ever being called that, but then I was hit in the head a few times.::wink::

Oh, and after driving a lot of sticks, the auto is a lot easier when maneuvering off road.
 

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At almost 59 years old I still love my manual Frontier, my manual Challenger SRT and my manual Jeep JK. I'm still annoyed that they won't bulid me a new SV long bed in manual and the king cab doesn't come in manual in a V^, Nissan is screwing up there big time, build it how we want it, it shouldn't matter to Nissan.
My driveway is long too and up an incline and my Titan trans had a real temp gauge and it used to heat up fast in reverse trying to back my trailer in, i could smell it, so I bought a front receiver hitch to push the trailer into its parking space and got done far faster and not cook the fluid.
Your trans choice is solely up to you but the auto uphill in reverse will have it's own problems.
One last point, if you're going to go larger on the boat, you may want to go to a larger truck now and not have to worry at all.

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Most trucks with manual trannys have a granny gear.The Frontier does not. Go with an automatic or like Clint suggested get a bigger truck.
 

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When I was commuting, I preferred an automatic but I am old and think old, therefore I used to think that real trucks had standard trannies and a regular cab. I personally like autotrannies now and currently drive a pro-4x crew cab with an auto.
 

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6sp gearing is much tighter together compared to 5sp auto, 1-3 is good but 4th is virtually a overdrive 5th is a overdrive. You will find the trans downshifting from 5th to 4the often, even just cruising on the highway. The main reason for getting rid of my 2009 auto and getting my 2011 6sp
 

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Head says auto.
Heart says 6-sp.
Gut?
Soul?
:serious: / >:D

They'll have to pry my 6-sp KC Fronty from my cold dead right hand & left foot.
 

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I had a 6 speed and now I have an auto. I miss the 6 speed.
 

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Thanks guys.

Not really any closer to a decision, but I can at least say this. When I bought my current Tacoma, I went with my heat instead of my heart. Was sitting in a new '14 double cab TRD Sport 4x4 with the 6-speed and I talked myself out of it and into a PreRunner auto. Regretted it since day 1...

I'm questioning the Pro4x trim level too. I totally don't need anything it provides, I just like the graphite interior. lol

I'll keep you posted.
 

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I tow a boat every couple of weeks.

My opinion would be to go Crew Cab Long Bed auto SV w/VTP 4x4. You won't go wrong.

ESPECIALLY if you plan to tow a much heavier boat in the future, as you indicated you might.

Manual is also a real PITA for putting your boat back in storage after pulling it out of the water.

IMO though... the longer wheel base of the CCLB will be a better decision point (for towing) than manual vs. auto trans.
 
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