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After about three weeks my coilovers finally got here!:) ordered them from prerunnerparts.com for $900. Hopefully Ill have time to get them installed tomorrow! :woot:
Here are some pics out of the box




And for anyone who doesn't know or is not clear on the subject, you DO NOT need after market UCA's to get three inchs of lift with coilovers. (thanks to Mike for clearing that up during the Apr. 10th GWNF run!) This only applies to coilovers and not spacers. If you have stock UCA's, you just need to get the STANDARD travel coilovers, and not the extended ones which are only for use with aftermarket UCA's. I dont know if anyone else has had any confusion over thinking you need to buy ucs's to be able to get 3" of lift, but I thought Id share since it saves about at least $600. Of course if you want to get an ADDITIONAL 2" (i think thats right) of wheel travel, you'll want to get the extended coilovers with new upper control arms.

Ill post some pics once i get them installed :)
 

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nice man FYI coat all your bolts with never sezi when you intall them makes lift a lot nicer of you ever have to take them out or change something
 

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$900 for 2.5-3 inchs of lift is alright, specially since its coilovers. I too was under the inpression that I could not have 3 inchs without UCA's. Thankyou very much for clearing that up for me. You just don't get the extra down travel, correct? And was that price including shipping?
 

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nice man FYI coat all your bolts with never sezi when you intall them makes lift a lot nicer of you ever have to take them out or change something
yeah thats definitely a good idea :) ill pick some up tomorrow seeing as I need to go to advance auto to buy a spanner wrench to adjust the ride height anyway.

$900 for 2.5-3 inchs of lift is alright, specially since its coilovers. I too was under the inpression that I could not have 3 inchs without UCA's. Thankyou very much for clearing that up for me. You just don't get the extra down travel, correct? And was that price including shipping?
From what I understand thats correct, you just dont get the additional down travel you will with extended coilovers and aftermarket UCA's. And yeah it was $900 shipped :)
 

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Man, this is what i need. I got 3" spacer on front & lot's of UCA contact on potholes & bumps also the ride is much stiffer than before. Thank's for the info. on the UCA not needed for 3" front lift. Let us know how smooth the ride is.
 

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You'll still get coil bucket contact with the coilovers set too high like above 3". Thats why they're the standard ones. But Im pretty sure still if you set them too high you'll get coil bucket contact at full droop.
 

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Man, this is what i need. I got 3" spacer on front & lot's of UCA contact on potholes & bumps also the ride is much stiffer than before. Thank's for the info. on the UCA not needed for 3" front lift. Let us know how smooth the ride is.
Yeah right now I have 2" spacers and thats what I hated the most was how much stiffer the ride was, so Im stoked to see how well these ride.
 

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You'll still get coil bucket contact with the coilovers set too high like above 3". Thats why they're the standard ones. But Im pretty sure still if you set them too high you'll get coil bucket contact at full droop.
I mean Im not 100% clear on this, but I thought the standard travel coilovers had a internal bump stop (or something like that) that prevented coilbucket contact? either way im hoping its better than the spacers :)
 

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sorry if im thread jacking. But, do you know if these can be used if a guy were to titan swap later on.
 

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Hey, man put them on & go over bump's, rough roads, potholes & let me know how it hold up ( No UCA contact ) . I might get these to replaced my 3" spacer.
 

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sorry if im thread jacking. But, do you know if these can be used if a guy were to titan swap later on.
hmm I dont know enough about doing the titan swap to be for sure, but if I had to guess I would say no. Im guessing there will be different mounting points, etc once you've done the swap, and these probably wouldnt be compatible.

Hey, man put them on & go over bump's, rough roads, potholes & let me know how it hold up ( No UCA contact ) . I might get these to replaced my 3" spacer.
Oh thats the first thing I plan on doing once i get them on :) tomorrow Ill post some pics of the install and give yall some feedback on performance!
 

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I mean Im not 100% clear on this, but I thought the standard travel coilovers had a internal bump stop (or something like that) that prevented coilbucket contact? either way im hoping its better than the spacers :)
Yah they are valved differently to fight coil bucket contact, but I think if you max them out for height you can still get coil bucket contact. Im not 100% sure either. As long as you dont set them way too high your good. An aftermarket UCA will always help though to get a few more inches of travel, but then you'd have to get that standard length shock revalved.
 

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Nice!
I was headed that way till' some Rads came along.

I mean Im not 100% clear on this, but I thought the standard travel coilovers had a internal bump stop (or something like that) that prevented coilbucket contact? either way im hoping its better than the spacers :)
^not sure about Icons but, that's kinda how the Radflos are.. I bought used extended C/Os and PRG shortened em' with a spacer "inside".
 

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Sorry, just want to be clear. You just install these and "voila", 3" of lift? No other modifications are required?

Just curious, I haven't looked into this at all but it looks good and I need new tires soon. Minus whale get some big ones!!
 

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The Icon's come preset at 2,5" of lift. For those who ordered the Standard travel shocks and want to add new UCA's Icon can remove the internal droop spacer to allow for the extended travel. The co's are a direct bolt in, no other mods are needed.

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Sorry dude. No way no how! To keep it simple.........

A stock frontier is on level ground.
You lift it with a jack, 3 inches.
As the truck goes up, the LCA's get pushed down by the spring, because there is less weight on top of the spring due to the jack holding some of the weight. And of corse the UCA's come down as a result.... being very close to the coil bucket.


^^^^ It does not matter what kind of shock it is...... the coil bucket is welded to the frame... thats not going any where. The shock (coil over) is completely out of the way already, its not hitting anything.

Its the stock UCA hitting the stock coil bucket when the LCA is pushed away from the truck, tords the ground, the UCA follows it because it is conected by the spindle..... resulting in the UCA being very close to the coil bucket. Hit a bump.... bam!

If you could "magicly" lift your tuck 3 inches with no shocks (coil bucket) in it at all, you would still get coil bucket contact.

Dont mean to rain on your parade, but I dont think this will fix the coil bucket contact if it is the equvilant of 3 inches of lift.


I have a 3 inch spacer on my truck, have the same complaint as you... I used a grinder and ground down the area on the UCA that is closest to the coil bucket. I only did this because there is very little force and weight on the UCA. All of the stress is on the LCA and the coil bucket. The UCA is just there to guide every thing and keep it all strait.

Sorry man, not tring to spoil it for you. I 100% agree that your ride will be much plusher tho!
 

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exactly what jordo explained. even 2 inch lift coilovers/spacers will give you coil bucket contact if you go over a decent size bump fast enough.
 

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shakes head you guys dont get it. Coil overs are not spacers the LCA isn't being pushed toward the ground the same distance as a spacer lift. a spacer moves the LCA the distance that it lifts a coil over gains lift by a stiffer spring meaning the LCA dose not move the same distance the truck is lifted. the LCA my only move 1.5inchs down but the truck is lifted 3 inches.

I've installed every type of lift for the gen 2s other then a titan swap and seen what they do to the LCA and UCA as well as how they preform on the road and trail. I'm not trying to be a dick but no one is listing to guys like Mike Arron myself or others who have a lot of wrench time on these trucks
 

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shakes head you guys dont get it. Coil overs are not spacers the LCA isn't being pushed toward the ground the same distance as a spacer lift. a spacer moves the LCA the distance that it lifts a coil over gains lift by a stiffer spring meaning the LCA dose not move the same distance the truck is lifted. the LCA my only move 1.5inchs down but the truck is lifted 3 inches.

I've installed every type of lift for the gen 2s other then a titan swap and seen what they do to the LCA and UCA as well as how they preform on the road and trail. I'm not trying to be a dick but no one is listing to guys like Mike Arron myself or others who have a lot of wrench time on these trucks
Yeah thats what Ive come to understand. Coilovers are a completely different story than the spacers. I think on the PRG website if you look at the standard travel radflos Greg even says they DO NOT have any coil bucket contact. Now since I havent personally had coilovers on my truck, im not going to act like I know from experience. As I said thats just what Ive come to understand.
 

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Okay, so I was in the process of installing the icons today and it was a BIG no go. The icons didnt fit. I dont know if they accidently sent me the extended coilovers or what.

But ive had a change in plans, after talking to Greg from PRG, I decided Im going to return the icons and go with Radflo 2.0's. According to Greg unless im beating the absolute piss out of my truck or taking it "in the air" I really dont need the 2.5's (those who dont know 2.0 and 2.5 is referring to the shock diameter in the coilover)

His analogy for the difference in the two was this: Say you have a 300hp V8 (the 2.5), and you have a 300 hp V6 (the 2.0). Both are putting out 300 horsepower, but the V8's just doing it with more ease.

He said that a lot of people are a lot more pleased with how the radflos ride than the icons. But he also said a lot of people have been having problems getting a true 3" out of the icons, which is what has really decide to make me do the change.

Plus the 2.0's are only $769 shipped :fantastic:
 
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