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I've noticed a somewhat disconcerting "kick" in my 09 SE 4X4. I'll be driving normally in 2WD at like 60kmph and out of nowhere the truck will kick or buck forward. It almost feels like when you have wheelspin and then it suddenly grabs traction. Except there isn't any wheelspin and I'm not on what I'd consider a low traction environment. Its happened a few times, on a wet road but I can't replicate the feeling. It's completely random. AFAIK my truck doesn't have VDC or any type of traction control beyond the factory LSD. Is this something possibly failing in the driveline, or something else entirely?
 

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Read up on the cross contamination of the radiator and trans. Check your coolant and make sure its not a strawberry color.
 

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I have a six speed. I was under the impression the manual doesn't have the same issue or am I mistaken?
 

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I have a six speed. I was under the impression the manual doesn't have the same issue or am I mistaken?
You're correct. It's a problem for the automatic only. What kind of condition is your clutch in? Possible slippage???
 

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LOL, Oh it doesn't effect manuals, LOL you need a signature block. :)
 

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There's 180km on the truck. The clutch is probably still factory, but other than cooked fluid which I swapped out I haven't had any issues with it slipping. The kick isn't when I'm shifting either, it was just driving along in 3rd or 4th. No heavy acceleration, minimal throttle input, 2500 ish rpms.
 

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LOL, Oh it doesn't effect manuals, LOL you need a signature block. :)

I Added one, but it doesn't post it when I'm on mobile :shrug:
 

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Update: I've noticed a tiny bit of slip at the very top of the clutch pedal. Is a sticky clutch a thing? Like it's not disenaging fully after a shift then after a few rotations completely releasing. It would probably explain the sensation. Or am I barking up the wrong tree and chasing two separate problems here?
 

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Update 2.0: Still getting the wheel spin sensation on wet pavement. But I've been driving long enough to know what wheel spin feels like and this isn't it. The truck doesn't seem to think so either, as I'm not getting the SLIP light when it happens. I don't even know if "kick" is the right word to describe it? It feels like a yank or a tug from the rear axle. I'm at a total loss here. I wanna make sure this isn't a symptom of something larger, cuz camping season is approaching and I do not want to be stranded in the middle of nowhere with a pissed off girlfriend. At the same time I don't wanna just throw money at this thing and hope something sticks. I can't take it to a shop to diagnose cuz its so intermittent, so until I have at least a starting point I'm basically spinning my tires.... Pun intended :comphead:

For those of you just tuning in symptoms are: kicking, bucking, or yanking (like when you grab traction after spinning the tires) sensation on wet pavement. I'm not bagging on it, or trying to get it break loose. It happens with little to no throttle input; at ~2000rpm and the "kicks" dont spike or dip rpm at all, in 2WD, happens intermittently only on wet pavement but once its kicked once it seems more frequent until I return to a "high traction" surface. It's not throwing codes, so I'm not thinking its an ABS sensor or something similar.
 

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Just had similar situation this morning while driving. It is snowing so first time I thought it was a wheel slip and then regaining traction. But then it happened like 5 more times on areas where I know I would not be slipping. No slip light came on. No codes from the ECU (I checked while driving, gotta love torque pro). It almost feels like the rear brakes grab for a second or the transmission has a little hard shift but it's random times and not when the tranny would normally be shifting. I do have an automatic. It is a 2014 though so hope cross contamination isn't an issue.

Side note I did engage the hill decent control going down my mountain as there was snow on it. I still don't know how that is supposed to work as it doesn't seem to do anything other than make the light blink. When I was at the bottom I forgot to shut it off so I was driving along and then realized it. I flicked the switch and as soon as I did that the first "kick, hiccup, buck" or whatever we want to call it happened. Timing might have been totally coincidental though.
 

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Have you checked for leaky rear axle seals? Gear lube on the brake pads or e brake shoes can cause them to get grabby though normally in reverse only.
I was just under there last week because I get this burning smell. There was zero wetness on anything behind the wheels or anywhere under there.

The burning smell though odd I guess is just hot vehicle because my girlfriends rogue smells the same way. I am new to having a garage and it seems vehicles after being driven do have a smell that I never noticed parking outside. It appears to be the hot tires. :duh:
 

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Have you checked for leaky rear axle seals? Gear lube on the brake pads or e brake shoes can cause them to get grabby though normally in reverse only.
This is now on my immediate to do list. I feel like this is one of those times that Occam's Razor gets beat by Murphy's Law but maybe I'll get lucky.
 

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This is now on my immediate to do list. I feel like this is one of those times that Occam's Razor gets beat by Murphy's Law but maybe I'll get lucky.
Hope you figure it out. Didn't mean to thread jack but it does seem we have the exact same issue. I will let you know if I figure anything out no my end. I did have some wonky things happening when my battery was bad and corroded. I will be double checking that again too. One of the wonky things was a jerk once in awhile. But I got a code for the transmission control losing connection.
 

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As another side note, last spring I was getting a random slip light and locker light flicker (not same issue as you guys are seeing) and my torque pro app was showing no codes at all. When I took it to the dealer, they showed stored codes for the steering angle sensor as well as the rear diff locker sensor, so, it is possible you do have a code, but your scanner is not seeing it.
 

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check your intake. I am 99% sure I just fixed my issue. I decided to pop the hood on lunch to double check my battery terminals. Those checked out fine. Next I decided to check the maf connector. I had a similar issue on another car and it turned out to be the plug that goes on the maf. It would lose connection every so often and cause this same hiccup. That was tight and fine. I then looked for mice chew marks and found nothing. Finally I glanced at the box and sure enough one clip was off. The top part that is connected to the tube with the maf was just flapping about. I wrestled it all back together properly and drove it. Felt like a new truck again. It didn't hiccup like it had just done 15 minutes earlier and I swear she has a bit more pep.

So in the end it looks like my maf was probably getting some erratic readings from either bouncing around or air coming in from two different spots.
 

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Just want to say I have put about 200 miles on my truck since my last post and I have not had a single issue. Confirmed my issue was the stock airbox. What a crazy two days of driving for me and I am so glad I fixed this before because all that driving with this issue would have been horrible.
 

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When my axle seals were seeping gear oil there was dampness on the edge of the rotors. Run your finger on the edge through the rear wheels and also take a good look. One more thing is the parking brake didn't hold the weight of the truck.

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When my axle seals were seeping gear oil there was dampness on the edge of the rotors. Run your finger on the edge through the rear wheels and also take a good look. One more thing is the parking brake didn't hold the weight of the truck.

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Rotors are dry and I parked on a hill in neutral and the e-brake held. I've been wrestling with it, and I think I'm just gonna replace the clutch and flywheel and see if that helps. It was on my to-do list when I bought the truck, I'd just hoped I could postpone it. Like I mentioned in an earlier post I am noticing a little slip, and I'd rather get it done now than have it fail on me in the middle of nowhere. And I can get parts way cheaper through Rock Auto than what I'd get dinged for "emergency" repairs locally.
 
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