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This Is Based On A 4x4 But 4x4Parts.Com Has 2WD Lift Kits and Parts As Well. In General Lifting The 4x4 or 2WD Is Pretty Much The Same. Frontier and Xterra rear ends are a little bit different but the rear end is the easy part. Frontier 4x4 Leaf springs sit on top of the Axle and 2wd's are under the axle including Desert Runners I believe.

To Lift and or Level via the Suspension you need UCA's (Upper Control Arms) to get 3'' in the front unless you want to keep everything stock then 1.5'' is the max you can go (See PML at bottom of page). Then You need either Shackles, Blocks, or an Extra Leaf in the rear. It's your choice. Shackles are the easiest option. Going off memory, the shackle has to be twice the length you want to lift. So if you want 1'' lift in the rear you need a 2'' shackle and so on.

A Body Lift IS KEY To Getting Large Tires To Fit WIthout Rubbing, Having To Trim, Or Having Your 33's Stuffed Up Into Your Wheel Well or Ripping Your Fender Flares Off the First Time You Compress Your Suspension All The Way. A Suspension Lift IS NOT KEY To fitting Bigger Tires Like 33's and Up. A 2'' Body Lift is Plenty For Fitting 33's. A Body Lift Does Just That. It Lifts Your Body Up and Out of The Way of Your Tires, It's Static, Constant, and Doesn't Change. A Suspension LIft Is Not Static, Not Constant, and Changes in height when the Suspension is compressed.

Keep in mind that your truck comes from the factory with a 1-1.5'' Rake I believe. So the Rear is already 1 - 1.5 inches higher than the front.

YOU NEED TO MEASURE BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING - Make sure you do this. I had to learn the hard way. I got so excited about my lift that i forgot to measure. Anyways, you measure from the seam to the ground under the farthest point forward under the front door and behind the front mud flap and at the side rear somewhere like the frame to the floor at a point thats fairly far back.

Check Out 4x4Parts.Com - They Have Everything You Need For A Lift. Their Products are Quality and Ship Fast. Cant Say Enough Good Things About Them
Kit: 4x4 Parts - Frontier Suspension Lift SPAC994743 - Your #1 Source for Nissan Aftermarket Parts!
They Have Other Options and Many Other Parts aside from that kit for a lift - So look through their site.

Other Parts For A Thorough Rock Solid Lift:
- Bilstein B6 4600 Shocks
These work for stock height or up to a 3'' Lift out of the box. No adjusting is needed. They provide a nice solid ride. Not "Floaty" at all.
- Tie Rod Kit (covered in 1st video below) from 4x4Parts.Com
- Idler Arm Brace (covered in 1st video below) from 4x4Parts.Com Only fits the OEM Idler Arm
- Upgraded Metal Bushings for Idler Arm (covered in 1st video below) from Bandit4x4.Com Took my Idler Arm to a machine shop and had them press the bushings in and install a Zerk Fitting. The Bushings in the OEM Idler Arm are plastic. They're fine for stock height but when the truck is lifted it'll wear those plastic bushings out.
- Upgraded Center Link (covered in 1st video below) from GrassRoots4x4.Com (you may think this guy is out of business but email him, he'll get back to you. Took about a month to get my center link back. I went to the JunkYard, pulled one off a X and sent him that one so i could still drive my truck. A machine shop could do the same thing for you tho so.....
- Torsion Bars From what I uderstand, the Torsion Bars that 4x4Parts.Com sells are made by Sway-A-Away. They provide up to a 20% higher Spring Rate. Our Trucks don't have Coil Overs. We have Torsion Bars which accomplish the same thing. I definitely noticed a difference after i put them on. The truck doesn't roll as much on curves and turns which is a huge plus when the truck is lifted. I don't get that "oh shyt im about to topple over" feeling on sharp curves. The truck doesn't "Sway" as much and the difference is noticeable. Many guys run the Stock Bars and thats fine too tho. Torsion Bars - Sway-A-Way | Racing Technology and 4x4 Parts - Frontier Torsion Bars SPST1447b - Your #1 Source for Nissan Aftermarket Parts!
- Body Lift Alternate Option: 1" and 2" Body lift fits 2001-2004 Nissan Frontier Crew Cab — Mikelli's Body Lifts This guy also sell on eBay
- Can Be Used Instead of Shackles. They have an extra leaf in them (3 vs 2) Give 1.5 - 2 Inches of Lift. (i've had these on for 1.5 years and they haven't lost any height) 69-255HD Heavy Duty Rear Leaf Spring | 1998-2004 Nissan Frontier 4x4 (generalspringkc.com)
I Put the HD Springs On and Torsion Bar'd The Front Til the Truck was Level. Actually i have like 1/4 - 1/2 Inch Rake, i don't remember exactly. To this day the truck remains at the same level and i can handle much more payload Before my rear end sinks all the way to the ground as well. I talked to another guy who went this route with his 1st Gen Frontier and he said after 3 years of towing, hauling, and off roading that his springs are still maintaining height. Not a bad idea since you get new Leaf Springs plus the benefits of a lift. It's a WIN WIN. There's also the "3 Leaf Add-A-Leaf Pack" at 4x4Parts.Com which is the same idea. It adds an extra leaf which lifts the rear end

- Adjustable Shackles from 4x4Parts.Com I bought these as well. They have 3 different height settings which can be adjusted to provide from 7/8" to 2" of lift. They're extremely well built and look durable. Like I said tho, i ended up not needing them since the HD Springs provided the Lift I was looking for. Nissan - Suspension - Suspension Lift Components - Rear Suspension Components - Frontier - 1998-2004 Frontier - Shackles (4x4parts.com)
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Another Note:
Not sure if its just my truck for some reason but i had a problem with the Inner Tie Rod Ends. The Outers worked just fine though.

I bought the Beefier Tie Rods and Tie Rod Ends from 4x4Parts.Com but with the Inner Tie Rod Ends there just wasn't enough clearance for my application for some reason. They were too thick/wide and the frame kept getting in the way. There just wasn't enough room to mount them.
Anyways, I ended up at AutoZone and got the OEM sized Duralasts. I was able to mount them up and even then they ever so slightly rub the frame. I mean just barely rub. I can see a horizontal line about 1 or 2 inches long where they rub the frame when turning the wheel. A light touch of the flapper wheel on the tie rod end would be enough to get 100% clearance but the contact of the inner tie rod end and frame is extremely minimal and has probably grinded itself down by now. Autozone also has the "Value Craft" line i believe which are even smaller than the Duralast OEM Replacements and would've given me plenty of room. This is an off road truck though, so at minimum OE Spec was going back on.
So, Just Something To Keep In Mind If You Come Across This Problem.

Indexing and Re Indexing the Torsion Bars Can Be A Pain bc there's a learning curve if you've never done it. I got to the point that i can Re Index My Torsions in just minutes now though. MAKE SURE you put a jack under the front end or the truck WILL fall on you when you loosen the anchor bolt all the way. It won't crush you if there's a wheel on but the truck will fall several inches. The Guy in the Last Video "Re-Indexing Torsion Bars" goes over this. The Factory Service Manual Has The Directions in the "Front Axle & Front Suspension" Chapter Nissan Service Manuals - NICOclub

How To Adjust Your Turn Stops If Your Tires Are Rubbing:

Read This Thread on Lifting Our trucks. The Best Single Thread I've Found On Lifting Our Trucks
www.clubxterra.org

Can I fit 34" Tires without a BL?


DONT FORGET TO GET AN ALIGNMENT - THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND NOT TALKED ABOUT VERY OFTEN.
There's 2 Ways:
Having an Alignment Shop Figure It Out or by Setting Camber to Zero

#1 - Take your truck to a 4x4/Off Road/Lift type Specialty Shop and let them figure out the new alignment. A good shop will know what they're doing. Once it's aligned and you're happy with the results, keep those new specs and have your regular alignment shop plug in the new numbers when getting an alignment. I would recommend getting a Specialty Shop even if going with the Lifted Alignment Specs to get the new numbers. I took my truck to 2 places, Firestone and another Shop, they have no idea how to follow directions. All they want to do is put in your truck info or manually enter your new Spec Details to the let the computer guide them.

#2 - Lifted Alignment Specs: You could also align yourself or take to a shop and use the Lifted Alignment Specs by setting the camber to ZERO which will position the tires FLAT on the Ground which is another simple way to save your tires. Again, guy goes over it in the video below under "Alignment"




- Here's The Lifted Alignment Specs
www.clubxterra.org

Alignment Spec with SL
www.clubxterra.org

Lift Alignments - Explanations, Results, and Reviews -...


This Guy Goes Over Everything You Need For a Lift In The Videos Below:

Alignment And Explantion of Parts


Alignment

Lifting Via Torsion Bars

Re-Indexing Torsion Bars

PICS OF MY LEVELED LIFT BELOW
3" SL + 3"BL on 33's - Stands 8 Inches Over Stock Height Now

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There's Also the Poor Mans Lift (PML) Which Only Requires Shackles and Cranking of The Torsion Bars. You Can Get 1.5 Inches of All Around Front and Rear Suspension Lift From Your Stock UCA's and Adding Longer Shackles in The Rear. Total Cost of PML: Simply The Cost of Longer Rear Shackles ($50-$120 Depending On What You Buy). Lifting The Front is FREE.
You Can Also Level Your Truck Out For FREE Just by Cranking The Front Torsions and Leaving The Rear AS IS. Your Truck Comes From The Factory With A 1 - 1.5" Rake. Meaning Your Rear is 1 - 1.5'' Higher than the Front Provided Your Leaf Springs Aren't Totally Shot.
The Stock Control Arms Will Allow Up To a 1.5'' Suspension Lift By Cranking The Torsion Bars. Any More Than 1.5" and The Angle Of The Ball Joint Will Be Too Great. You'll Break Them.

OEM Alignment Specs work just fine with the PML. Just have it aligned as you normally would. No need for the Lifted Alignment Specs.

SEARCH RESULTS FOR "PML"
Search results for query: PML | Nissan Frontier Forum (clubfrontier.org)
SEARCH RESULTS FOR "POOR MANS LIFT"
Search results for query: Poor Mans Lift | Nissan Frontier Forum (clubfrontier.org)

ONE LAST THING:
After installing a 3'' Body Lift the 4x4 Shift Lever inside the cab may not go back all the way. This isn't a problem with the 2'' Lift. All you do is notch out the shift plate about an inch or 2 in the path that the shift lever will take. I had a hard time getting into 4 Low before i notched the plate. I could get it in 4 Low but barely and it would pop out on the first bump. Getting to the plate and notching it is a 15 minute job. I go over it in this post here: Torsion bar right up with pics (post #23). Torsion bar right up
 

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This Is Based On A 4x4 But 4x4Parts.Com Has 2WD Lift Kits and Parts As Well. In General Lifting The 4x4 or 2WD Is Pretty Much The Same.

To Lift and or Level via the Suspension you need UCA's (Upper Control Arms) to get 3'' in the front unless you want to keep everything stock then 1.5'' is the max you can go (See PML at bottom of page). Then You need either Shackles, Blocks, or an Extra Leaf in the rear. It's your choice. Shackles are the easiest option. Going off memory, the shackle has to be twice the length you want to lift. So if you want 1'' lift in the rear you need a 2'' shackle and so on.

A Body Lift IS KEY To Getting Large Tires To Fit WIthout Rubbing, Having To Trim, Or Having Your 33's Stuffed Up Into Your Wheel Well or Ripping Your Fender Flares Off the First Time You Compress Your Suspension All The Way. A Suspension Lift IS NOT KEY To fitting Bigger Tires Like 33's and Up. A 2'' Body Lift is Plenty For Fitting 33's. A Body Lift Does Just That. It Lifts Your Body Up and Out of The Way of Your Tires, It's Static, Constant, and Doesn't Change. A Suspension LIft Is Not Static, Not Constant, and Changes in height when the Suspension is compressed.

Keep in mind that your truck comes from the factory with a 1-1.5'' Rake I believe. So the Rear is already 1 - 1.5 inches higher than the front.

YOU NEED TO MEASURE BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING - Make sure you do this. I had to learn the hard way. I got so excited about my lift that i forgot to measure. Anyways, you measure from the seam to the ground under the farthest point forward under the front door and behind the front mud flap and at the side rear somewhere like the frame to the floor at a point thats fairly far back.

Check Out 4x4Parts.Com - They Have Everything You Need For A Lift. Their Products are Quality and Ship Fast. Cant Say Enough Good Things About Them
Kit: 4x4 Parts - Frontier Suspension Lift SPAC994743 - Your #1 Source for Nissan Aftermarket Parts!
They Have Other Options and Many Other Parts aside from that kit for a lift - So look through their site.

Other Parts For A Thorough Rock Solid Lift:
- Bilstein B6 4600 Shocks
These work for stock height or up to a 3'' Lift out of the box. No adjusting is needed. They provide a nice solid ride. Not "Floaty" at all.
- Tie Rod Kit (covered in 1st video below) from 4x4Parts.Com
- Idler Arm Brace (covered in 1st video below) from 4x4Parts.Com Only fits the OEM Idler Arm
- Upgraded Metal Bushings for Idler Arm (covered in 1st video below) from Bandit4x4.Com Took my Idler Arm to a machine shop and had them press the bushings in and install a Zerk Fitting. The Bushings in the OEM Idler Arm are plastic. They're fine for stock height but when the truck is lifted it'll wear those plastic bushings out.
- Upgraded Center Link (covered in 1st video below) from GrassRoots4x4.Com (you may think this guy is out of business but email him, he'll get back to you. Took about a month to get my center link back. I went to the JunkYard, pulled one off a X and sent him that one so i could still drive my truck. A machine shop could do the same thing for you tho so.....
- Torsion Bars From what I uderstand, the Torsion Bars that 4x4Parts.Com sells are made by Sway-A-Away. They provide up to a 20% higher Spring Rate. Our Trucks don't have Coil Overs. We have Torsion Bars which accomplish the same thing. I definitely noticed a difference after i put them on. The truck doesn't roll as much on curves and turns which is a huge plus when the truck is lifted. I don't get that "oh shyt im about to topple over" feeling on sharp curves. The truck doesn't "Sway" as much and the difference is noticeable. Many guys run the Stock Bars and thats fine too tho. Torsion Bars - Sway-A-Way | Racing Technology and 4x4 Parts - Frontier Torsion Bars SPST1447b - Your #1 Source for Nissan Aftermarket Parts!
- Body Lift Alternate Option: 1" and 2" Body lift fits 2001-2004 Nissan Frontier Crew Cab — Mikelli's Body Lifts This guy also sell on eBay
- Can Be Used Instead of Shackles. They have an extra leaf in them (3 vs 2) Give 1.5 - 2 Inches of Lift. (i've had these on for 1.5 years and they haven't lost any height) 69-255HD Heavy Duty Rear Leaf Spring | 1998-2004 Nissan Frontier 4x4 (generalspringkc.com)
I Put the HD Springs On and Torsion Bar'd The Front Til the Truck was Level. Actually i have like 1/4 - 1/2 Inch Rake, i don't remember exactly. To this day the truck remains at the same level and i can handle much more payload Before my rear end sinks all the way to the ground as well. I talked to another guy who went this route with his 1st Gen Frontier and he said after 3 years of towing, hauling, and off roading that his springs are still maintaining height. Not a bad idea since you get new Leaf Springs plus the benefits of a lift. It's a WIN WIN. There's also the "3 Leaf Add-A-Leaf Pack" at 4x4Parts.Com which is the same idea. It adds an extra leaf which lifts the rear end

- Adjustable Shackles from 4x4Parts.Com I bought these as well. They have 3 different height settings which can be adjusted to provide from 7/8" to 2" of lift. They're extremely well built and look durable. Like I said tho, i ended up not needing them since the HD Springs provided the Lift I was looking for. Nissan - Suspension - Suspension Lift Components - Rear Suspension Components - Frontier - 1998-2004 Frontier - Shackles (4x4parts.com)
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Another Note:
Not sure if its just my truck for some reason but i had a problem with the Inner Tie Rod Ends. The Outers worked just fine though.

I bought the Beefier Tie Rods and Tie Rod Ends from 4x4Parts.Com but with the Inner Tie Rod Ends there just wasn't enough clearance for my application for some reason. They were too thick/wide and the frame kept getting in the way. There just wasn't enough room to mount them.
Anyways, I ended up at AutoZone and got the OEM sized Duralasts. I was able to mount them up and even then they ever so slightly rub the frame. I mean just barely rub. I can see a horizontal line about 1 or 2 inches long where they rub the frame when turning the wheel. A light touch of the flapper wheel on the tie rod end would be enough to get 100% clearance but the contact of the inner tie rod end and frame is extremely minimal and has probably grinded itself down by now. Autozone also has the "Value Craft" line i believe which are even smaller than the Duralast OEM Replacements and would've given me plenty of room. This is an off road truck though, so at minimum OE Spec was going back on.
So, Just Something To Keep In Mind If You Come Across This Problem.

Indexing and Re Indexing the Torsion Bars Can Be A Pain bc there's a learning curve if you've never done it. I got to the point that i can Re Index My Torsions in just minutes now though. The Factory Service Manual Has The Directions in the "Front Axle & Front Suspension" Chapter Nissan Service Manuals - NICOclub

Read This Thread on Lifting Our trucks. The Best Single Thread I've Found On Lifting Our Trucks
www.clubxterra.org

Can I fit 34" Tires without a BL?


DONT FORGET TO GET AN ALIGNMENT - THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND NOT TALKED ABOUT VERY OFTEN
- Here's The Lifted Alignment Specs
www.clubxterra.org

Alignment Spec with SL
www.clubxterra.org

Lift Alignments - Explanations, Results, and Reviews -...


This Guy Goes Over Everything You Need For a Lift In The Videos Below:

Alignment And Explantion of Parts


Lifting Via Torsion Bars

Re-Indexing Torsion Bars

PICS OF MY LEVELED LIFT BELOW
3" SL + 3"BL on 33's - Stands 8 Inches Over Stock Height Now

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There's Also the Poor Mans Lift (PML) Which Only Requires Shackles and Cranking of The Torsion Bars. You Can Get 1.5 Inches of All Around Front and Rear Suspension Lift From Your Stock UCA's and Adding Longer Shackles in The Rear. Total Cost of PML: Simply The Cost of Longer Rear Shackles ($50-$120 Depending On What You Buy). Lifting The Front is FREE.
You Can Also Level Your Truck Out For FREE Just by Cranking The Front Torsions and Leaving The Rear AS IS. Your Truck Comes From The Factory With A 1 - 1.5" Rake. Meaning Your Rear is 1 - 1.5'' Higher than the Front Provided Your Leaf Springs Aren't Totally Shot.
The Stock Control Arms Will Allow Up To a 1.5'' Suspension Lift By Cranking The Torsion Bars. Any More Than 1.5" and The Angle Of The Ball Joint Will Be Too Great. You'll Break Them.
SEARCH RESULTS FOR "PML"
Search results for query: PML | Nissan Frontier Forum (clubfrontier.org)
SEARCH RESULTS FOR "POOR MANS LIFT"
Search results for query: Poor Mans Lift | Nissan Frontier Forum (clubfrontier.org)

ONE LAST THING:
After installing a 3'' Body Lift the 4x4 Shift Lever inside the cab may not go back all the way. This isn't a problem with the 2'' Lift. All you do is notch out the shift plate about an inch or 2 in the path that the shift lever will take. I had a hard time getting into 4 Low before i notched the plate. I could get it in 4 Low but barely and it would pop out on the first bump. Getting to the plate and notching it is a 15 minute job. I go over it in this post here: Torsion bar right up with pics (post #23). Torsion bar right up
Quick question. I'm going to get the kit from 4X4parts.com that you recommend. It says a 3 inch lift but am I able to just do 2 inches if I wanted? Is 3 inches the highest you can go with those bars so if I dial it back I can easily do 2. Or is a 3 inch lift the starting point? And do those after market UAC's push the stance out at all?
 

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Quick question. I'm going to get the kit from 4X4parts.com that you recommend. It says a 3 inch lift but am I able to just do 2 inches if I wanted? Is 3 inches the highest you can go with those bars so if I dial it back I can easily do 2. Or is a 3 inch lift the starting point? And do those after market UAC's push the stance out at all?
The front end will lift to your liking via the torsion bars. It just depends on how much you crank them. Yes you can do only 2 inches if you want. Just crank your torsions till you hit 2 inches in height. 3 inches is the max you can go safely. Any more than that and you put your ball joints on the UCA's at too extreme of an angle and potentially snap or bend them. The starting point will be stock height since the torsions are on the lower control arm which you're not changing. ONce you have the UCA's on then you start cranking and the the suspension will slowly rise. To go over about an inch or so you'll have to reindex your torsions to hit 2 inches or more. And no the aftermarket UCA's dont bring your stance out they bring the tires in as you lift or crank the torsions. You'll probablly have to adjust your turn stops so that when you turn the wheel all the way your tires wont rub the LCA's.

MAKE SURE after you lift the Front and or Rear that you bounce the front and or rear hard. Push down hard on the front bumper and make it bounce 5-10 times. Same for the rear. Stand on the rear bumper and bounce that bad boy. This will settle your suspension and you can get a correct measurement afterwards.
 

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I'm in an 04 2wd kc, I'm thinking aal and longer shackles for the rear but I can't find anything specifically for my vehicle for the front. Any advise for what I should do. I'm hoping to get about a 3" lift and I figured the 2.5" and 1" from the aal and shackles would be squished down to about 3" because of the extra weight of my bed cover.
 

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Not sure how much weight it takes to compress your rear suspension .5 inches. BUT, you can get the adjustable shackle at 4x4Parts

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This Is Based On A 4x4 But 4x4Parts.Com Has 2WD Lift Kits and Parts As Well. In General Lifting The 4x4 or 2WD Is Pretty Much The Same.

To Lift and or Level via the Suspension you need UCA's (Upper Control Arms) to get 3'' in the front unless you want to keep everything stock then 1.5'' is the max you can go (See PML at bottom of page). Then You need either Shackles, Blocks, or an Extra Leaf in the rear. It's your choice. Shackles are the easiest option. Going off memory, the shackle has to be twice the length you want to lift. So if you want 1'' lift in the rear you need a 2'' shackle and so on.

A Body Lift IS KEY To Getting Large Tires To Fit WIthout Rubbing, Having To Trim, Or Having Your 33's Stuffed Up Into Your Wheel Well or Ripping Your Fender Flares Off the First Time You Compress Your Suspension All The Way. A Suspension Lift IS NOT KEY To fitting Bigger Tires Like 33's and Up. A 2'' Body Lift is Plenty For Fitting 33's. A Body Lift Does Just That. It Lifts Your Body Up and Out of The Way of Your Tires, It's Static, Constant, and Doesn't Change. A Suspension LIft Is Not Static, Not Constant, and Changes in height when the Suspension is compressed.

Keep in mind that your truck comes from the factory with a 1-1.5'' Rake I believe. So the Rear is already 1 - 1.5 inches higher than the front.

YOU NEED TO MEASURE BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING - Make sure you do this. I had to learn the hard way. I got so excited about my lift that i forgot to measure. Anyways, you measure from the seam to the ground under the farthest point forward under the front door and behind the front mud flap and at the side rear somewhere like the frame to the floor at a point thats fairly far back.

Check Out 4x4Parts.Com - They Have Everything You Need For A Lift. Their Products are Quality and Ship Fast. Cant Say Enough Good Things About Them
Kit: 4x4 Parts - Frontier Suspension Lift SPAC994743 - Your #1 Source for Nissan Aftermarket Parts!
They Have Other Options and Many Other Parts aside from that kit for a lift - So look through their site.

Other Parts For A Thorough Rock Solid Lift:
- Bilstein B6 4600 Shocks
These work for stock height or up to a 3'' Lift out of the box. No adjusting is needed. They provide a nice solid ride. Not "Floaty" at all.
- Tie Rod Kit (covered in 1st video below) from 4x4Parts.Com
- Idler Arm Brace (covered in 1st video below) from 4x4Parts.Com Only fits the OEM Idler Arm
- Upgraded Metal Bushings for Idler Arm (covered in 1st video below) from Bandit4x4.Com Took my Idler Arm to a machine shop and had them press the bushings in and install a Zerk Fitting. The Bushings in the OEM Idler Arm are plastic. They're fine for stock height but when the truck is lifted it'll wear those plastic bushings out.
- Upgraded Center Link (covered in 1st video below) from GrassRoots4x4.Com (you may think this guy is out of business but email him, he'll get back to you. Took about a month to get my center link back. I went to the JunkYard, pulled one off a X and sent him that one so i could still drive my truck. A machine shop could do the same thing for you tho so.....
- Torsion Bars From what I uderstand, the Torsion Bars that 4x4Parts.Com sells are made by Sway-A-Away. They provide up to a 20% higher Spring Rate. Our Trucks don't have Coil Overs. We have Torsion Bars which accomplish the same thing. I definitely noticed a difference after i put them on. The truck doesn't roll as much on curves and turns which is a huge plus when the truck is lifted. I don't get that "oh shyt im about to topple over" feeling on sharp curves. The truck doesn't "Sway" as much and the difference is noticeable. Many guys run the Stock Bars and thats fine too tho. Torsion Bars - Sway-A-Way | Racing Technology and 4x4 Parts - Frontier Torsion Bars SPST1447b - Your #1 Source for Nissan Aftermarket Parts!
- Body Lift Alternate Option: 1" and 2" Body lift fits 2001-2004 Nissan Frontier Crew Cab — Mikelli's Body Lifts This guy also sell on eBay
- Can Be Used Instead of Shackles. They have an extra leaf in them (3 vs 2) Give 1.5 - 2 Inches of Lift. (i've had these on for 1.5 years and they haven't lost any height) 69-255HD Heavy Duty Rear Leaf Spring | 1998-2004 Nissan Frontier 4x4 (generalspringkc.com)
I Put the HD Springs On and Torsion Bar'd The Front Til the Truck was Level. Actually i have like 1/4 - 1/2 Inch Rake, i don't remember exactly. To this day the truck remains at the same level and i can handle much more payload Before my rear end sinks all the way to the ground as well. I talked to another guy who went this route with his 1st Gen Frontier and he said after 3 years of towing, hauling, and off roading that his springs are still maintaining height. Not a bad idea since you get new Leaf Springs plus the benefits of a lift. It's a WIN WIN. There's also the "3 Leaf Add-A-Leaf Pack" at 4x4Parts.Com which is the same idea. It adds an extra leaf which lifts the rear end

- Adjustable Shackles from 4x4Parts.Com I bought these as well. They have 3 different height settings which can be adjusted to provide from 7/8" to 2" of lift. They're extremely well built and look durable. Like I said tho, i ended up not needing them since the HD Springs provided the Lift I was looking for. Nissan - Suspension - Suspension Lift Components - Rear Suspension Components - Frontier - 1998-2004 Frontier - Shackles (4x4parts.com)
View attachment 325514

Another Note:
Not sure if its just my truck for some reason but i had a problem with the Inner Tie Rod Ends. The Outers worked just fine though.

I bought the Beefier Tie Rods and Tie Rod Ends from 4x4Parts.Com but with the Inner Tie Rod Ends there just wasn't enough clearance for my application for some reason. They were too thick/wide and the frame kept getting in the way. There just wasn't enough room to mount them.
Anyways, I ended up at AutoZone and got the OEM sized Duralasts. I was able to mount them up and even then they ever so slightly rub the frame. I mean just barely rub. I can see a horizontal line about 1 or 2 inches long where they rub the frame when turning the wheel. A light touch of the flapper wheel on the tie rod end would be enough to get 100% clearance but the contact of the inner tie rod end and frame is extremely minimal and has probably grinded itself down by now. Autozone also has the "Value Craft" line i believe which are even smaller than the Duralast OEM Replacements and would've given me plenty of room. This is an off road truck though, so at minimum OE Spec was going back on.
So, Just Something To Keep In Mind If You Come Across This Problem.

Indexing and Re Indexing the Torsion Bars Can Be A Pain bc there's a learning curve if you've never done it. I got to the point that i can Re Index My Torsions in just minutes now though. The Factory Service Manual Has The Directions in the "Front Axle & Front Suspension" Chapter Nissan Service Manuals - NICOclub

How To Adjust Your Turn Stops If Your Tires Are Rubbing:

Read This Thread on Lifting Our trucks. The Best Single Thread I've Found On Lifting Our Trucks
www.clubxterra.org

Can I fit 34" Tires without a BL?


DONT FORGET TO GET AN ALIGNMENT - THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND NOT TALKED ABOUT VERY OFTEN
- Here's The Lifted Alignment Specs
www.clubxterra.org

Alignment Spec with SL
www.clubxterra.org

Lift Alignments - Explanations, Results, and Reviews -...


This Guy Goes Over Everything You Need For a Lift In The Videos Below:

Alignment And Explantion of Parts


Lifting Via Torsion Bars

Re-Indexing Torsion Bars

PICS OF MY LEVELED LIFT BELOW
3" SL + 3"BL on 33's - Stands 8 Inches Over Stock Height Now

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There's Also the Poor Mans Lift (PML) Which Only Requires Shackles and Cranking of The Torsion Bars. You Can Get 1.5 Inches of All Around Front and Rear Suspension Lift From Your Stock UCA's and Adding Longer Shackles in The Rear. Total Cost of PML: Simply The Cost of Longer Rear Shackles ($50-$120 Depending On What You Buy). Lifting The Front is FREE.
You Can Also Level Your Truck Out For FREE Just by Cranking The Front Torsions and Leaving The Rear AS IS. Your Truck Comes From The Factory With A 1 - 1.5" Rake. Meaning Your Rear is 1 - 1.5'' Higher than the Front Provided Your Leaf Springs Aren't Totally Shot.
The Stock Control Arms Will Allow Up To a 1.5'' Suspension Lift By Cranking The Torsion Bars. Any More Than 1.5" and The Angle Of The Ball Joint Will Be Too Great. You'll Break Them.
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After installing a 3'' Body Lift the 4x4 Shift Lever inside the cab may not go back all the way. This isn't a problem with the 2'' Lift. All you do is notch out the shift plate about an inch or 2 in the path that the shift lever will take. I had a hard time getting into 4 Low before i notched the plate. I could get it in 4 Low but barely and it would pop out on the first bump. Getting to the plate and notching it is a 15 minute job. I go over it in this post here: Torsion bar right up with pics (post #23). Torsion bar right up
Does cranking the torsion bars increase spring rate? It would wouldn't it? I ask because I purchased sway-aways increased rate bars for my 2001 frontier and want to throw upgraded skid plates and bumper on there but don't want to lose my 30% increased rate...

I'm wondering if I crank them for an inch lift that should give me like 50% spring rate right (30% + 20%)? Then if I throw rock rails, skid plate, and a bumper that should bring me just back down to the regular 20% - 30%? Hopefully all that makes sense.
 

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Might catch flak from the die hard BLift guys, but I have a 2001 Nissan Frontier Xe King Cab 3 inch BL 2.4 2wd- cranked torsion .50

IMO, after years of having this BL lift I am not a fan. Sucks!

Yeah I might have bigger tires, bit more clearance after winding the torsion bars up a bit, but I would just save the troubles of install, cutting, fitting, having to recheck, refit...

Personal opinion, just spend a few extra (**** load) of bucks and get the good stuff. Feel free to message me if you have any questions, I'll save ppl the trouble from having blood shot eye and shorten my rant up.
 

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Might catch flak from the die hard BLift guys, but I have a 2001 Nissan Frontier Xe King Cab 3 inch BL 2.4 2wd- cranked torsion .50

IMO, after years of having this BL lift I am not a fan. Sucks!

Yeah I might have bigger tires, bit more clearance after winding the torsion bars up a bit, but I would just save the troubles of install, cutting, fitting, having to recheck, refit...

Personal opinion, just spend a few extra (**** load) of bucks and get the good stuff. Feel free to message me if you have any questions, I'll save ppl the trouble from having blood shot eye and shorten my rant up.
so you cranked your torsion bars a little and don’t like how it rides??
 

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Does cranking the torsion bars increase spring rate? It would wouldn't it? I ask because I purchased sway-aways increased rate bars for my 2001 frontier and want to throw upgraded skid plates and bumper on there but don't want to lose my 30% increased rate...

I'm wondering if I crank them for an inch lift that should give me like 50% spring rate right (30% + 20%)? Then if I throw rock rails, skid plate, and a bumper that should bring me just back down to the regular 20% - 30%? Hopefully all that makes sense.
No, adjusting your Torsions does not add to the Spring Rate. The Spring Rate is the Spring Rate no matter how you have the LCA's adjusted. The only way to gain Spring Rate from the Torsions is to upgrade the Torsions themselves with some that have a higher spring rate. The Torsions change the angle of the Control Arm. The Spring Rate Will Remain the Same. You're Not twisting the Torsions even more by changing the angle of the LCA. Lifting via the Torsions does not increase Spring Rate and Lowering via Torsions does not decrease the Spring Rate. Once weight is applied to your suspension is when the Torsions start to twist. A higher Spring Rate just means the Torsion Bars won't twist as much when an opposing force is applied to the suspension.
Google: " Adjusting Torsion Bars Increases Spring Rate ?" You'll find the answer is NO
 

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This Is Based On A 4x4 But 4x4Parts.Com Has 2WD Lift Kits and Parts As Well. In General Lifting The 4x4 or 2WD Is Pretty Much The Same. Frontier and Xterra rear ends are a little bit different but the rear end is the easy part. Frontier 4x4 Leaf springs sit on top of the Axle and 2wd's are under the axle including Desert Runners I believe.

To Lift and or Level via the Suspension you need UCA's (Upper Control Arms) to get 3'' in the front unless you want to keep everything stock then 1.5'' is the max you can go (See PML at bottom of page). Then You need either Shackles, Blocks, or an Extra Leaf in the rear. It's your choice. Shackles are the easiest option. Going off memory, the shackle has to be twice the length you want to lift. So if you want 1'' lift in the rear you need a 2'' shackle and so on.

A Body Lift IS KEY To Getting Large Tires To Fit WIthout Rubbing, Having To Trim, Or Having Your 33's Stuffed Up Into Your Wheel Well or Ripping Your Fender Flares Off the First Time You Compress Your Suspension All The Way. A Suspension Lift IS NOT KEY To fitting Bigger Tires Like 33's and Up. A 2'' Body Lift is Plenty For Fitting 33's. A Body Lift Does Just That. It Lifts Your Body Up and Out of The Way of Your Tires, It's Static, Constant, and Doesn't Change. A Suspension LIft Is Not Static, Not Constant, and Changes in height when the Suspension is compressed.

Keep in mind that your truck comes from the factory with a 1-1.5'' Rake I believe. So the Rear is already 1 - 1.5 inches higher than the front.

YOU NEED TO MEASURE BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING - Make sure you do this. I had to learn the hard way. I got so excited about my lift that i forgot to measure. Anyways, you measure from the seam to the ground under the farthest point forward under the front door and behind the front mud flap and at the side rear somewhere like the frame to the floor at a point thats fairly far back.

Check Out 4x4Parts.Com - They Have Everything You Need For A Lift. Their Products are Quality and Ship Fast. Cant Say Enough Good Things About Them
Kit: 4x4 Parts - Frontier Suspension Lift SPAC994743 - Your #1 Source for Nissan Aftermarket Parts!
They Have Other Options and Many Other Parts aside from that kit for a lift - So look through their site.

Other Parts For A Thorough Rock Solid Lift:
- Bilstein B6 4600 Shocks
These work for stock height or up to a 3'' Lift out of the box. No adjusting is needed. They provide a nice solid ride. Not "Floaty" at all.
- Tie Rod Kit (covered in 1st video below) from 4x4Parts.Com
- Idler Arm Brace (covered in 1st video below) from 4x4Parts.Com Only fits the OEM Idler Arm
- Upgraded Metal Bushings for Idler Arm (covered in 1st video below) from Bandit4x4.Com Took my Idler Arm to a machine shop and had them press the bushings in and install a Zerk Fitting. The Bushings in the OEM Idler Arm are plastic. They're fine for stock height but when the truck is lifted it'll wear those plastic bushings out.
- Upgraded Center Link (covered in 1st video below) from GrassRoots4x4.Com (you may think this guy is out of business but email him, he'll get back to you. Took about a month to get my center link back. I went to the JunkYard, pulled one off a X and sent him that one so i could still drive my truck. A machine shop could do the same thing for you tho so.....
- Torsion Bars From what I uderstand, the Torsion Bars that 4x4Parts.Com sells are made by Sway-A-Away. They provide up to a 20% higher Spring Rate. Our Trucks don't have Coil Overs. We have Torsion Bars which accomplish the same thing. I definitely noticed a difference after i put them on. The truck doesn't roll as much on curves and turns which is a huge plus when the truck is lifted. I don't get that "oh shyt im about to topple over" feeling on sharp curves. The truck doesn't "Sway" as much and the difference is noticeable. Many guys run the Stock Bars and thats fine too tho. Torsion Bars - Sway-A-Way | Racing Technology and 4x4 Parts - Frontier Torsion Bars SPST1447b - Your #1 Source for Nissan Aftermarket Parts!
- Body Lift Alternate Option: 1" and 2" Body lift fits 2001-2004 Nissan Frontier Crew Cab — Mikelli's Body Lifts This guy also sell on eBay
- Can Be Used Instead of Shackles. They have an extra leaf in them (3 vs 2) Give 1.5 - 2 Inches of Lift. (i've had these on for 1.5 years and they haven't lost any height) 69-255HD Heavy Duty Rear Leaf Spring | 1998-2004 Nissan Frontier 4x4 (generalspringkc.com)
I Put the HD Springs On and Torsion Bar'd The Front Til the Truck was Level. Actually i have like 1/4 - 1/2 Inch Rake, i don't remember exactly. To this day the truck remains at the same level and i can handle much more payload Before my rear end sinks all the way to the ground as well. I talked to another guy who went this route with his 1st Gen Frontier and he said after 3 years of towing, hauling, and off roading that his springs are still maintaining height. Not a bad idea since you get new Leaf Springs plus the benefits of a lift. It's a WIN WIN. There's also the "3 Leaf Add-A-Leaf Pack" at 4x4Parts.Com which is the same idea. It adds an extra leaf which lifts the rear end

- Adjustable Shackles from 4x4Parts.Com I bought these as well. They have 3 different height settings which can be adjusted to provide from 7/8" to 2" of lift. They're extremely well built and look durable. Like I said tho, i ended up not needing them since the HD Springs provided the Lift I was looking for. Nissan - Suspension - Suspension Lift Components - Rear Suspension Components - Frontier - 1998-2004 Frontier - Shackles (4x4parts.com)
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Not sure if its just my truck for some reason but i had a problem with the Inner Tie Rod Ends. The Outers worked just fine though.

I bought the Beefier Tie Rods and Tie Rod Ends from 4x4Parts.Com but with the Inner Tie Rod Ends there just wasn't enough clearance for my application for some reason. They were too thick/wide and the frame kept getting in the way. There just wasn't enough room to mount them.
Anyways, I ended up at AutoZone and got the OEM sized Duralasts. I was able to mount them up and even then they ever so slightly rub the frame. I mean just barely rub. I can see a horizontal line about 1 or 2 inches long where they rub the frame when turning the wheel. A light touch of the flapper wheel on the tie rod end would be enough to get 100% clearance but the contact of the inner tie rod end and frame is extremely minimal and has probably grinded itself down by now. Autozone also has the "Value Craft" line i believe which are even smaller than the Duralast OEM Replacements and would've given me plenty of room. This is an off road truck though, so at minimum OE Spec was going back on.
So, Just Something To Keep In Mind If You Come Across This Problem.

Indexing and Re Indexing the Torsion Bars Can Be A Pain bc there's a learning curve if you've never done it. I got to the point that i can Re Index My Torsions in just minutes now though. MAKE SURE you put a jack under the front end or the truck WILL fall on you when you loosen the anchor bolt all the way. It won't crush you if there's a wheel on but the truck will fall several inches. The Guy in the Last Video "Re-Indexing Torsion Bars" goes over this. The Factory Service Manual Has The Directions in the "Front Axle & Front Suspension" Chapter Nissan Service Manuals - NICOclub

How To Adjust Your Turn Stops If Your Tires Are Rubbing:

Read This Thread on Lifting Our trucks. The Best Single Thread I've Found On Lifting Our Trucks
www.clubxterra.org

Can I fit 34" Tires without a BL?


DONT FORGET TO GET AN ALIGNMENT - THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND NOT TALKED ABOUT VERY OFTEN.
There's 2 Ways:
Having an Alignment Shop Figure It Out or by Setting Camber to Zero

#1 - Take your truck to a 4x4/Off Road/Lift type Specialty Shop and let them figure out the new alignment. A good shop will know what they're doing. Once it's aligned and you're happy with the results, keep those new specs and have your regular alignment shop plug in the new numbers when getting an alignment. I would recommend getting a Specialty Shop even if going with the Lifted Alignment Specs to get the new numbers. I took my truck to 2 places, Firestone and another Shop, they have no idea how to follow directions. All they want to do is put in your truck info or manually enter your new Spec Details to the let the computer guide them.

#2 - Lifted Alignment Specs: You could also align yourself or take to a shop and use the Lifted Alignment Specs by setting the camber to ZERO which will position the tires FLAT on the Ground which is another simple way to save your tires. Again, guy goes over it in the video below under "Alignment"




- Here's The Lifted Alignment Specs
www.clubxterra.org

Alignment Spec with SL
www.clubxterra.org

Lift Alignments - Explanations, Results, and Reviews -...


This Guy Goes Over Everything You Need For a Lift In The Videos Below:

Alignment And Explantion of Parts


Alignment

Lifting Via Torsion Bars

Re-Indexing Torsion Bars

PICS OF MY LEVELED LIFT BELOW
3" SL + 3"BL on 33's - Stands 8 Inches Over Stock Height Now

View attachment 325512 View attachment 325400 View attachment 325402 View attachment 325403 View attachment 325404 View attachment 325401 View attachment 325685 View attachment 325684

There's Also the Poor Mans Lift (PML) Which Only Requires Shackles and Cranking of The Torsion Bars. You Can Get 1.5 Inches of All Around Front and Rear Suspension Lift From Your Stock UCA's and Adding Longer Shackles in The Rear. Total Cost of PML: Simply The Cost of Longer Rear Shackles ($50-$120 Depending On What You Buy). Lifting The Front is FREE.
You Can Also Level Your Truck Out For FREE Just by Cranking The Front Torsions and Leaving The Rear AS IS. Your Truck Comes From The Factory With A 1 - 1.5" Rake. Meaning Your Rear is 1 - 1.5'' Higher than the Front Provided Your Leaf Springs Aren't Totally Shot.
The Stock Control Arms Will Allow Up To a 1.5'' Suspension Lift By Cranking The Torsion Bars. Any More Than 1.5" and The Angle Of The Ball Joint Will Be Too Great. You'll Break Them.

OEM Alignment Specs work just fine with the PML. Just have it aligned as you normally would. No need for the Lifted Alignment Specs.

SEARCH RESULTS FOR "PML"
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SEARCH RESULTS FOR "POOR MANS LIFT"
Search results for query: Poor Mans Lift | Nissan Frontier Forum (clubfrontier.org)

ONE LAST THING:
After installing a 3'' Body Lift the 4x4 Shift Lever inside the cab may not go back all the way. This isn't a problem with the 2'' Lift. All you do is notch out the shift plate about an inch or 2 in the path that the shift lever will take. I had a hard time getting into 4 Low before i notched the plate. I could get it in 4 Low but barely and it would pop out on the first bump. Getting to the plate and notching it is a 15 minute job. I go over it in this post here: Torsion bar right up with pics (post #23). Torsion bar right up
Great Article, but…shipping to Hawaii is $650 for the $950 premium 3” lift from 4x4parts.com. Any cheaper alternatives?
 

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Kinda disapointed in the quality of the adjustable rear shackles I got from 4x4parts.com. Ugly welds with a bit of undercut, splatter everywhere, holes not deburred, all very poorly painted over. Paint flaked off/missing in a few places right out of the box, showing shiny metal underneath revealing what appears to me to be no surface prep - no media blasting/sanding/, no primer, just a layer of paint. Interior of holes not painted either - just exposed bare metal. Was kind of hoping for an operation like that the parts would be powdercoated.

I ended up scuffing their paint job and putting another layer of paint over it and some self etch primer in the holes but I doubt it will last given the poor surface adhesion and paint right over the welding splatter lol

Maybe that's just part and parcel for aftermarket offroad parts but I was disappointed especially for their relatively higher cost but I guess not many options for D22 so you take what you can get.
 
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