decided to go with the doug thorley system, got it in a week from LMPerformance at a better price than others! opened the box last night to check it out as i seen variations of what it was. all pipes are 2.5" 409 stainless muffler is 30" long including pipe connections + its straight thru, but on an angle. the hangars that i seen as part of the clamps were actually welded 304 stainless to the pipes + a very nice shiny bolt on 304 stainless tip. there is no second kitty on the single pipe like the OE system, checking everything slipped together easily, i ordered 304 stainless band clamps from Jegs last night as i don't like the clamps that indent the pipe + make future removal if not rusted on easier, i will use anti sneeze on the slip connections. waiting for Linseed oil to coat the outside of the system as well. i did a second application of Kroil to the bolts on the OE system but most will prolly get cut off. it looks like there are studs on the front cats + they are VERY rusted as are the flanges, prolly end up cutting + drilling them out. prolly 2 weeks for the linseed oil i will coat the system before installing so i will fuss with the bolts to be removed in the mean time. can't wait to get an exhaust i can hear!!!