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So it doesn't seem that there are any changes when it comes to the top models such as the PRO4X between the last 4 years, but does anybody know of any?

My lease will be up in 6 months already on my '14 and am contemplating turning it in for the '17, which is a horrible decision, paying all that money and getting nothing for it but another 3 years of overpaying on another one albeit BRAND NEW, anywho... But I like my '14 just the way it is, and I don't want to later down the road think that I wish I still had my '14 due to some little annoyances. For instance, this vehicle is one of the few that does not NAG you with a seatbelt beep any time that anybody does not have their seat belt on! The Frontier does it calmly and cool with a small dash indicator and that is it! I have a sneaking suspicion that the '17 models will have changed that to nag the **** out of you like every other vehicle on the market. I had thought it was a government requirement being that way, but thankfully no.

There is one annoyance with the '14, which is the radio antenna, why can't it be incorporated into the roof like most new cars, I say this because it whips all over the place and some car washes will remove it and hand it to you. Is it a nostalgic thing on a truck? So this would be a welcome change... But yeah anything new on the '17 model?

LED DRLs would also be an amazing upgrade, love the Rogue's bright ones!

I definitely am not looking forward to the 2018 NISSAN UGLY (Frontier), the worst of which is the interior, too car like, I can't imagine thinking the inside or outside looks better than the current model, unless they change it up from the international one. They may possible give it an exterior facelift since in '18 it will be 4 years since the international model was announced. I think it wasn't widely released until the '16 model, but not sure there...

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Found a big one, 2017s can now run E85, what? Odd that it is the only one in Nissan's entire lineup according to fueleconomy.gov. But 12 miles to the gallon, what a waste of a fuel technology!

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So either buy out your 14 or buy the 17 and don't lease it.

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I'm on my first frontier and in a similar situation as I picked up my '17 SV CC earlier this month...with a 6M transmission we get all the items of the VTP included in the price of our vehicle (backup camera system, utilitrack, bed extender, spray in bed liner and fog lights).

I also went with a lease because this is my first truck (I've always wanted one) and we'll see how much I want to keep it after the lease terms run.

Besides, looking at the crazy prices on the for-sale section around here trying to get a 4x4 truck in snow season just made much more sense to go for a new vehicle!
 

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I leased a vehicle ONCE. Never again. It works for some people, those that do not drive many miles and keep your truck pristine shape. My problem then was miles, I drove too much and paid dearly for it. If you drive short distances and stay on-road, it may work for you, but I prefer to make payments and then OWN the truck. These days with low interest rates and longer terms the payments can be close to a lease.

All this to say that if you enjoy your 2014, purchase it!

Good luck.
 

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I went with the lease because the residual purchase price after the lease was lower than what I could purchase a clean, lowerish milage, truck currently that didn't look beat to h3!! or all rusty underneath it in my area...this way at the end of my lease I know I'll have that clean low mileage vehicle avail to purchase if I want to and the difference between 12k and 15k miles is only $450 @ $0.15 per mile.

The biggest part of the depreciation hit will be during the lease term when my payments are low so hopefully that lessens my hit a little, who knows really with POV valuations��

Additionally, if the Frontier redesign is anything like the Tacoma redesign I'll be happy keeping the Frontier!
 

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So visually there is no differences between a '14 & '17 frontiers (or '05 & '17) ? think Vee Dub only one that has gone longer without a body style change. I don't get lease advantage, just buy it.
 

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I think leases can be good if you know how to go about it. For example you're supposed to negotiate the residual price or something. I don't fully understand it and is a reason why I haven't really considered it.

Off the top of my head, the 2005 and 2017 Frontiers are different where the newer ones have a little spoiler added onto the tailgate. I guess to try to make it more aerodynamic or something. I think this started around 2012.

Plus some newer crew cab models come with a sliding rear window. Not exactly sure when this happened. But there would be some members who mentioned this on the board and others arguing saying it wasn't an option available. But I see more of them on the road now with the sliding rear window.

Then the value truck package used to not include tow hitch but started to, maybe around 2009? So you might see some similar vehicles optioned differently depending on the years.

Oh and the other visual thing is just the trim line names on the back of the truck. Where it used to be XE, SE, LE and Nismo. Now it's S, SV, SL and Pro-4x.

At some point, I think they offered really nicer looking rims for one of the upper line ones but can't remember anymore.

I haven't really paid attention but don't think there are as much visual differences between the 2014 and 2017. Maybe different color options?
 

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It's a good write off business wise (leasing) if they are able to.
 

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Buying it out in the end usually means more years of paying for the same truck and at a higher interest rate.
Are you aware they figure the miles per month and if you go over in a short time and something goes wrong like a wreck or lose your job and it goes back early you get whacked for the overage?
So if you have 12K for the year but rack up 11k in 6 months you're hosed.

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Buying it out in the end usually means more years of paying for the same truck and at a higher interest rate.
Are you aware they figure the miles per month and if you go over in a short time and something goes wrong like a wreck or lose your job and it goes back early you get whacked for the overage?
So if you have 12K for the year but rack up 11k in 6 months you're hosed.

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My contract lease is for a total amount of miles, there's no monthly clause on any of the paper work and I know that I get 1K miles per month so based on my travel distance to work that leaves me with a cushion of miles for my R&R time and we own my wife's POV outright so I believe we've thought it thru...additionally, during my lease terms I've budgeted to save enough to pay off the POV if I want to keep it; I'm just not obligated to keep it if I don't want to keep it and I'll still have $$ in the bank to get something else brand new if I want in 3 years!

I've never leased before and my feelings could very well change at the end of this one but for now it seemed like a decent (not great) way to get a truck I've always wanted with out a super huge monthly payment or a super long term (of years) that I'm locked in if I decide I'm tired of this POV and want to get a totally different vehicle later...besides, USAA has great rates even on 3 year old POV's if necessary!

Hopefully it will work out well and be what I've come to expect!::grin::
 

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It's not a clause, my sister in law leased a civic and racked up 20K miles in ten months and way before then she was told that they would tally any miles above 1000 per month if the car was turned in early.
All she can do is just buy it and drive it and not care about miles.
Unfortunately nobody wanted to listen when I predicted her situation.
Now the car sits unused while she uses a company car and pays payments and insurance on a car that sits like a planter on the driveway.
I am a 41 year business owner and never want my driving limited because I'm afraid to drive wherever and whenever I want to go.

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...again a lease is something to be thought thru just like a purchase; there's people buying cars/SUV's and trucks all the time that have no business buying or leasing that expensive a vehicle because they haven't thought it thru totally.

I believe the lease will work out for my needs; if it doesn't, I won't do it again as I've always bought good condition ~4 - 8 year old used cars = this Frontier was a treat for my wife and I due to our situation from the last 20+ months and we've earned it (and saved up for it)::grin::
 

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It's not a clause, my sister in law leased a civic and racked up 20K miles in ten months and way before then she was told that they would tally any miles above 1000 per month if the car was turned in early.
All she can do is just buy it and drive it and not care about miles.
Unfortunately nobody wanted to listen when I predicted her situation.
Now the car sits unused while she uses a company car and pays payments and insurance on a car that sits like a planter on the driveway.
I am a 41 year business owner and never want my driving limited because I'm afraid to drive wherever and whenever I want to go.

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I foresee this same situation for someone I work with. They leased with a 10K mileage per year limit snd so far they only enjoy driving the car half of the time. They come to work in the old vehicle often, meaning they're still keeping up insurance and maintenance on two vehicles instead of just one, and not enjoying the car like I'd think they'd want to. Seems like stress instead of fun. New car ownership ought to be fun. I believe ownership IS. That said, I've never leased, but it's for all the reasons you said. I'd just rather pay for my truck and have it be mine.
 

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To the OP, one thing I know is that the 2014 had the option to get the backup camera, but on the 2015 and beyond, I think they came standard. I have a 2014 and did not get it. I have never really needed it, but recently, my wife bought a brand new Chevy Spark and hers has the camera. I swear I like it so much I now wish my truck had it. If yours doesn't, that's one difference you'll see. Her new car DOES NOT have a CD player, which my truck has and I use. She misses that. I don't know if the 2017 Fronties have one or not but it's becoming common for new vehicles to not have one. If you use your phone for music, it's not an issue, but I don't yet do this so I still need a CD player.

These are small things, but feel bigger if you don't have them and miss them. It may not make it worth the loss on a new trade, but then that's an individual matter. One thing to remember, you're used to the truck you have now and know whether you like it or not, and you know whether it does or doesn't have things you wish it did. That could be incentive to keep it, or trade it. Also, you asked if there were annoyances about the newer ones that the older ones lack. Well, a nice long test drive of a new one might help answer that. I think things that are different will jump right out seeing as how the drive will feel familiar overall, except for things that you are not used to, such as any seat belt dinger going off every few seconds. Things like this will grab your attention more because you're in familiar surroundings. I think if it were a totally different vehicle, that they might not stand out as much since everything is different. That's all I have. Good luck.
 

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My business partner typically does 2 yr, 15k a year leases. It is his "work truck" and at 30K miles, it gets turned in before it will need brakes or tires. works out quite well for him. He typically asks about a vehicle that has been sitting on the lot a while and normally ends up with a fairly low payment on a pretty nice truck. He always does a no money down deal. He is currently paying about $250 a month on a '17 ram 1500. not a bad deal if you ask me.

Now mind you, he doesn't get attached and knows the vehicle will be turned in within 24 months and most times does not get to pic the exact truck he will drive home.
 

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... if the 2017 Fronties have one or not but it's becoming common for new vehicles to not have one. If you use your phone for music, it's not an issue, but I don't yet do this so I still need a CD player. ... Good luck.
The '17's have a CD player built into the BT head unit so you can also stream.

They also come with the back up camera if you get a auto transmission and pay ($1,990 I believe) for the VTP.

If you get a manual transmission all the VTP items are included at no additional charge on the vehicle!

I have a manual transmission::grin::

My business partner typically does 2 yr, 15k a year leases. It is his "work truck" and at 30K miles, it gets turned in before it will need brakes or tires. works out quite well for him. He typically asks about a vehicle that has been sitting on the lot a while and normally ends up with a fairly low payment on a pretty nice truck. He always does a no money down deal. He is currently paying about $250 a month on a '17 ram 1500. not a bad deal if you ask me.

Now mind you, he doesn't get attached and knows the vehicle will be turned in within 24 months and most times does not get to pic the exact truck he will drive home.
...sounds like a good deal (except he's still driving a Dodge)>:D
 

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If you get a manual transmission all the VTP items are included at no additional charge on the vehicle!
Well, this is a perspective thing...and I'd love to hear Nissan's explanation on this one.
In the Pro4X trim level: the 6-sp version is ~$1000 cheaper than the auto trans version.
In SV trim: the 6-sp is ~$1000 more than a non-VTP...but ~$1000 less than if VTP equipped.
Bottom line: it all kind of comes out in the wash.
 

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The '17's have a CD player built into the BT head unit so you can also stream.

They also come with the back up camera if you get a auto transmission and pay ($1,990 I believe) for the VTP.

If you get a manual transmission all the VTP items are included at no additional charge on the vehicle!

I have a manual transmission::grin::



...sounds like a good deal (except he's still driving a Dodge)>:D
To him it's just a vehicle to get him to and from the shop and to haul supplies. Doesn't care what brand he ends up with. Doesn't even care about the color. He actually contacts all the dealers in the area, tells them needs to be 4wd, what terms he is looking for and waits for pricing. The last three have been a ram due to price alone.
 

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I traded a Ram for my Frontier. I love my Frontier, but I'm still a Ram fan, too. I just wanted better gas mileage and a smaller truck so the bed is accessible to work out of without needing a stepladder.
 
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