I'd hope it handles better than a 12 year old design that costs $15-$20k less.you can get a first gen raptor way cheaper than any of them loaded brand new.
ask me how i know...
also i really like that they are innovating, yall are missing the big picture here. i also like the new shock design as well.
and not to sound like the frontier sucks or anything but the zr2 handles itself much better offroad than the current model frontier. a lot better.... to compare stock to stock is kinda funny.
What's the bed look like? Do they have any sort of tie down system like Nissan? Can you measure between the wheel wells and tell me if it's at least 48"? I'd like to be able to get a full sheet of plywood/drywall in there...Love mine over the 11 year old Frontier I had. That thing was dated! Time for new tech and capabilities. Suspension lift, front and rear electronic lockers, sliders, full skid plates, spray in bed liner, remote start, aggressive tires, better bumpers for approach and departure while wheeling, a lot of info tech in the dash, 4g LTE with wifi all under warranty. Couldn't wait any longer for Nissan to figure whats what.
I would not want that in any of my trucks, past or present.This. No idea why it isn't standard on ALL trucks.
I went with Mac's Custom TieDowns... can't say enough good things about them... I'd advise against the T channel, just go with the L channel. The ability to lock a ring down anywhere and just as easy pull it off is enormous... When mounting them (any brand) heavy steel fender washers are better than nothing, but a backer plate that spans 2 or 3 holes at either end (or anywhere you can fit it) is much better. Only thing I dislike about my Ltrack is the bed is not heavy-gauge steel so if you pull from the side the bed flexes a little bit (side load torque)There are a couple hooks but no track system. I am going to add one though. Might be hard to see as I put on a retractable cover. Here is a track company I am probably going to use for the rear of my truck. --> L-Track Tie Down - Airline Track Cargo Tie Down Rails & L-Track Straps
But these are nice too --> T-Track and T-Track Accessories
I thought the guy you quoted was referring to utilitrac. aside from it being a bit big/oversized, I also question why everyone doesn't offer a cargo tie-down system. As for the suspension, I think GM did it right. It's an offroader out of the box, well kitted out. My only complaint is dimensions... I still think both full-size and compact/mid-size are too big. a full-size from 20-25 yrs ago i sslightly larger than a current midsize... :frown:I would not want that in any of my trucks, past or present.
10k or 15k over a Frontier seems like a lot.
What would it cost to make a Frontier as capable? To get 8.6" of travel would take a minimum Titan swap, axles,shocks, springs etc.
I am sure a lot of people, the serious off road people have more than that in their vehicles.
I know I have.