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Added Backup Camera to Factory Radio '14 SV

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A small project I’ve taken on since truck ownership a little over a month ago was to install a backup camera to the factory radio. I really didn’t want to fool with aftermarket radios. That phase of my life is over. I just want stuff that works, sounds decent and is reliable. Just my preference. It’s my truck.

Having researched the different packages on the Frontier, I found the radio available on my SV (non-Value Truck Package, “VTP”) is the same product number from Bosch available on the SV VTP Frontier. So..... it was just a matter of wiring and plugging the right wires.

I was really just curious that I could actually make this work before finalizing the wiring, etc. So for $60, I figured, WTF? Why not try it.

After several hours of research online, I found that Mouser electronics does have 32 pin wiring connector, both male and female that mate to the Nissan connector and Bosch radio. It was just a matter of making the mate.

My first mistake was to assume the pins used were identical to those available through Mouser. They just don’t mesh well with the factory connector. So I ended up building a “jumper” harness between the factory 32 pin and the radio. AT the radio, I added the connections necessary to complete the install (pins 34, 36, 36, 44 and 50 at the M45 connector).

The only bit of advice I have here for anyone thinking of doing this is to take your time if you’ve never worked with production wiring connectors before. The little pins can be a royal pain to work with and you need some specialized tools. I took my time on each pin retrofit. I also checked continuity between the harnesses before the install.

I wanted to go the harness route for two reasons: 1) it’s easier to pinpoint if there were issues in my trial phase. 2) If I need to remove it in the future, I can just unplug the harness and return the radio to stock.



So parts used:

Mouser and manufacturers P/N:
1473799-1 (1x)
1318747-1 (1x)
1123343-1 (15x, wanted spares)
1376109-1 (15x, wanted spares)
A lot of patience, some spare wiring, solder, heat shrink, etc.
I did cannibalize a Scosche NN04RB for the gauge wire I wanted. I though this would be good for the connectors on the ends during my initial foray, but I was wrong, they are the incorrect gauge to just plug into the factory 32 pin harness. But the colored wire was helpful.
Camera was Esky EC170-08 (available from several sources)

You can also cross reference the part numbers via the TE Connectivity Electronics website as well as view several informative .PDFs and other digrams.






The remaining parts are the easy stuff.... running wiring to the camera, tapping into the reverse circuit and buttoning everything up. That’s silly stuff.


(this image is sort of poor because I still have the protective blue "tape" on the camera from the manufacturer, and it's dark-ish outside).

Anyway, hope this helps someone out there with an SV non-VTP to add a backup camera.

I will probably make a more comprehensive install with wiring diagrams, etc. But for now, I’m excited. It’s the little things.....
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I already have the camera in my 2015 (w/VTP), but this is a cool little project. What about the ultrasonic ranging?

Now what someone needs to do is figure out how to reprogram the HU so that it offers the option of passing voice input through to your Bluetooth-connected smart phone instead of the HU doing the speech-recognition itself. I lost a lot of Android app voice-activation/control functionality when I moved from my previous car's aftermarket Sony MEXBT3100P unit that did exactly that. I could not only place calls, I could activate and control my music, navigation app, etc via voice command without ever taking my eyes off the road, just by pressing a button and talking (plus a lot of custom stuff I threw together via Tasker scripting).

Now, I can only make/answer calls and have texts read to me (yeah, yeah, yeah...and I can get my sister-in-law's latest Facebook status updates read to me too....yippee :serious:)
nice hack

So I ended up building a “jumper” harness between the factory 32 pin and the radio. AT the radio, I added the connections necessary to complete the install (pins 34, 36, 36, 44 and 50 at the M45 connector).
Schematics/diagrams would be helpfull...

Soooo... the typo above, is that 34,35,36,44,50?
what signal lines are they?

Just would be helpful for anyone wanting to follow you into the breach...

This is a really awesome hack/mod. With the associated writeup this could be stickied...
::wink::
Edit:
This link ended up not being a different kind of install - but it is a tutorial by a Nissan tech doing a camera install:
My Nissan Leaf Forum ? View topic - How To: Reverse Backup Camera for SV Model w/ OEM Telematics
Schematics/diagrams would be helpfull...

Soooo... the typo above, is that 34,35,36,44,50?
what signal lines are they?
Yeah, sorry about that. I have gotten too busy over the past few days to really fool with it more, take photos and create a good thread with better install instructions.

Essentially, it boils down to the following (and yes, you're right, I typed the 35 incorrectly, sorry! :))

  • 34 is the camera power circuit feed (in my case, red wire into the camera)
  • 35 is the camera video output (in my case, yellow wire into the camera)
  • 36 is the camera video ground (in my case, black wire in the same jacketing as the yellow wire)
  • 44 is the camera power circuit ground (in my case black in the same jacketing as the red wire)
  • 50 is the power trigger. This is either from the reverse circuit on the trans or wired in via switch. The radio needs to see 12V on this wire to switch modes and illuminate the screen to the camera.

The problem with the Leaf forum is that radio and electronics system is more complicated. You really need to trick the thing into adding a camera. But thank you to Joe for adding the link to the install. I read through that forum thread a while ago and figured it'd be worth trying on the Frontier.

The radios on the SV and SV VTP trucks are the same Bosch part number, so they just need the wiring connected (pretty easily).

At some point later this week I will have a chance to finish the install, take better photos, add some schematics and make a decent thread out of it.

Thanks for reading and the input! ::smile::::smile::
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FMR, thank YOU for sharing your learnings. I will stay tuned, I'd like to add the camera for trailer hookup and general parking in tight spaces.
Damn that's cool thanks for sharing. I wondered if it were possible. Wish I was more confident in my ability to pull it off
This should help. :)

More photos, etc. as I have a chance.

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FMR, might I ask what you use for a crimper? I'm always open for a recommendation :)
That's the tough part about the terminals.... the tools for them are very expensive. I used a work around with the tools I have. I've worked with these little terminals before and know what a pain they can be because they are so small and fit very precisely into their connectors. At last check, the "proper" hand tool for these with interchangeable dies was around $1200 retail.

I ended up using three tools, primarily, after starting with several more. I found these worked best. It turned into a three-phase install for each wire, but the terminals look like they were crimped with the actual tool.

  1. Matco PEC7B End Cutter - used verrrrry carefully to make the initial crimp for the wire connection at the terminal and then the wire jacketing lock.
  2. Kronus 64-083 Automatic Wire strippers - these have some standardized crimping capability I also used very carefully with the terminals after the initial light crimp with the end cutters (above). I also used these primarily for the final testing and adjustment in each connector.
  3. Lisle 57750 Wire Terminal Tool Kit - very nice to have around if anything gets bent or you have to straighten part of a terminal or anything.

I did have a few other adjustment tools around for each terminal, regular pliers, offset/angled pliers, a razor knife and a lot of patience. I'd do a couple terminals, take a break, do a few more later, etc. It's easy to get frustrated with them.



The biggest thing to keep in mind with the terminals is just test fitting them to ensure they will enter the connector properly and get locked in there securely. This is also where having the Lisle terminal kit helps.
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Do you know if this tutorial Would work with this head unit? Same exact one as my 2015 Desert Runner.


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Do you know if this tutorial Would work with this head unit? Same exact one as my 2015 Desert Runner.
I'm not really sure off the top of my head. I can research the wiring diagrams a little later today and update this post.
Does anyone know where to find a connector for the Aux port in the back of the head unit? I'd like to add a HDMI or RCA connector so I can mirror my iPhone on the screen. Thank you,

Bob
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Looks like its possible to Connect an OEM backup camera to a 2015 Frontier With Factory Radio ( NO NAV version)
I found the proof,, a 2015 frontier for sale, with all the Goodies, No Nav, but rear view camera through the DASH!

It took me all night to find that Picture

Good News, because,, this is what I want to do for Now! it should be around 200 dollar upgrade to add OEM camera to existing Factory Stereo, just have to bridge the wires properly, We need to do a Guide on this!

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Has anyone else done this to their factory radio? I'm looking to do the same just need to get more details on how to do it.
Has anyone else done this to their factory radio? I'm looking to do the same just need to get more details on how to do it.
what details do you need? Basically this is putting in a bridging harness so you don't have to cut up the stock harness.
Good News, because,, this is what I want to do for Now! it should be around 200 dollar upgrade to add OEM camera to existing Factory Stereo, just have to bridge the wires properly, We need to do a Guide on this!
Around $200 for OEM? Is that from your local dealer or did you find it elsewhere? I called the Nissan dealer where I bought my truck and they told me it was $430 for the camera alone not including the bracket

what details do you need? Basically this is putting in a bridging harness so you don't have to cut up the stock harness.

I wanted to know if this harness is sold or if it's something I have to make and if there is any programing needed for the factory radio to receive the camera signal?
Can't speak to the OEM camera in the tailgate handle, other than it's expensive and limits your ability to remove the tailgate when needed. Its a bit more involved with the wiring harness. As for the harness that OP created, its something you have to make. FMR_GMC did a pretty bang-up job detailing what you need & what you have to do to make the bridge. Or you can splice into the factory harness, the 5 lines he's described. If you are using an OEM camera & harness, you'd likely need to get the harness(intermediate harness) that runs from the cab to the back of the truck. Mine does not have the intermediate harness, for example.
My plan is to use an aftermarket camera. With that, the important lines are 35/36 (camera video input) & 50 (12v into headunit. This is from the Reverse switch, to tell the headunit to display video) Camera can get its power& ground from a tail light housing Reverse light.
This is not a simple plug&play, it does take a little wiring knowledge/experience. But if you/a friend has experience, it's not too daunting a project. I'm considering getting a new headunit so I can have 2 video inputs -have a reverse cam & a nose rock cam.
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