[Nismo05]

Aside from the limitations in crawling situations, what other reasons would I not want to put 35's on a 2nd gen if I have the room? I've read about regearing but I am still not clear on whether that means for a daily driver or to be useful for offroading. I would think the engine and transmission could handle it, can any one shed some light on this subject for me?

 

[rorybellows]

mostly the gears, or lack thereof

 

[Zedbra]

mostly the gears, or lack thereof

and waiting for the day your front diff explodes...and explode it will

 

[Nizmo4X2]

the R180 front diff has a chance of exploding when the trucks stock form, you can always switch to the titans m205 when it does if u can find the matching nissan gears.

You want to regear to get some power back, having 35's will make it harder as a daily driver and while climbing inclines offroad.

It is possible to run 35's on the truck with a r180 and no gears but you just have to be a little more carefull.

 

[Nismo05]

Nizmo what do you mean by "careful", careful as ok to drive on pavement just don't take it off the pavement, or ok to tkae it off road just don't hammer the throttle unless you want to walk back home. So, here is the truck that inspired my question, http://www.clubfrontier.org/forums/f15/2008-frontier-lifted-52023/
Anybody know how his truck is holding out? I really don't take my truck off road unless it's off the road to get to the access point where I can ride my quad, not to say that I wouldn't want to be able to, and swapping out a Titan front diff isn't in my near future, maybe after it's paid off, but how about the rear end, can it handle that tire size? My issue is I already have 20's and 33's really don't look all that big on them, and I really don't want to have to buy new wheels again, and my stock wheels are just too damn skinny to get any of the tires that I want. And as far as a daily driver, I'm lucky if I get to drive it twice a week. it's an 08 I bought in May of 08 and I only have 16,900 miles on it and 13,000 of those were put on prior to May of 2009.

 

[sexy6chick]

Gears, gears, gears. You have to be light on the throttle, especially in 4wd. It is possible - when our 33's wear down we are moving up to 35's. That's the plan anyway.

 

[Nizmo4X2]

our front and rear diffs blow from excessive wheel spin. Street driving with 35's probally wont cause any problems unless your slamming on the throttle from a dead stop.


35's are overrated....until we get gears anyway. Less power, worse gas mileage, and only an inch more clearance...but they look cool. The Titan Suspension does far more for offroad performance than the bigger tires ever will.

 

[frontyfan]

H-Towns truck is doing fine. Wheeled with him once. A metric F*CK-TON of rubbing, we could hear it throughout the 10 truck group, but he had no issues. He took it easy, did some good trails that day/night. He's got a lot of lift and still rubbed. If you don't mind cutting fenders, keep your lift as low as possible (which is the optimal set up anyways).

How much lift you got now?

Oh, the M226 can handle 35s just fine, it's a Dana 44. You just have to take it easy on the skinny pedal, and be ready for when the front diff goes.

 

[Nismo05]

our front and rear diffs blow from excessive wheel spin. Street driving with 35's probally wont cause any problems unless your slamming on the throttle from a dead stop.


35's are overrated....until we get gears anyway. Less power, worse gas mileage, and only an inch more clearance...but they look cool. The Titan Suspension does far more for offroad performance than the bigger tires ever will.

Well considering I just dropped 1,300 on my Calmini lift and it isn't even on yet, (but it is now black) the Titan swap isn't happening, I was just gonna upgrade to the 2.5 Extended Length Radflo's from my 2.0's, add a Body Lift and go with 35's but maybe I'll just go with big 33's and wait for gears to come out. Or maybe I just won't do the body lift now, who knows. But you're right, 35's do look cool. And screw gas mileage, if I was worried about that I wouldn't have bought another Frontier. These things are pigs.

 

[rorybellows]

i have 33's and any moderate hill, like on i-90 freeway speeds, i usually have to shift down and do 65-70. you wouldnt think a few inches taller than stock tires would make you bog down like that, but it does. my gas mileage went down aboot 25% too, so you have that to look forward to also

 

[carphreak]

and let's not forget you're probably going to strain the wheel bearings just a little bit more....

 

[Nismo05]

Anybody running a 35x13.50 ?

 

[TerribleOne]

Plan ahead and there are no issues. Gears are a must; and should be available now for the front and rear...although you need to swap to an m205 front diff to re-gear it. For the rear, the stock locker/spider gears are the weak point, upgrading to a TrueTrac resolves that issue pretty quickly. As for wheel bearings, for over 2 years and quite a few desert trips I have ran heavy race tires (36") with beadlocks without any issues.

 

[Nismo05]

The more I look into this I think I am just going to go 33's, although the Cooper STT 35 comes in around 34" and Toyo Open Country MT's come in a 34.5 at 275/65/20 (but it's only 11" wide which I really don't want to go that thin), I really like the Toyo's MT's and I really don't wanna get into changing gears for an inch of clearance, stupid damn 20's I knew I should have went with 18's when I bought them.

 

[HunterFL772]

this guy is running 35's with nothing more than a custom made spacer. i cant imagine them being worth it, but thats just me. the 33in coopers are awesome looking too!

 

[Nismo05]

this guy is running 35's with nothing more than a custom made spacer. i cant imagine them being worth it, but thats just me. the 33in coopers are awesome looking too!

Yeah but look at that rear fender well, and the fact that the wheel is a 7.5 wheel, mine are 10 I think, that's a big difference even with the Calmini 5" and the Radflo's, I need to be able to use my truck for towing and hauling and you put any weight in there and you're screwed, not to mention how obscenely careful you would need to be in offroad conditions, well as soon as I get my Radflo's and the aal on in the rear, I'm going to take measurements and make my final decision then, It's just that the price diff between a 35" and a 33" is hardly anything and if I can get an extra inch of clearance then why not, cause the weight diff between the two in the Toyo's is only 8.8 lbs, which I really don't think is all that much (although I could be wrong) and If I can fit the 35's w/o a bl then I want to go that route, but then you have to deal with the gearing issue, and for someone like me who really isn't as much of a hardcore offroader as most of the people on here I'm wondering if the gearing issue is going to be a problem at all, I can deal with bad gas mileage since I have a work truck to get back and forth to work and loss of power, well since we have gps on our work trucks we can't go over 70 mph without getting taken out to the whipping shed so I really don't even go over that in my own vehicle anymore, thanks for the responses so far though.

Hunter you get those Radflo's on yet?

 

[mike]

First get rid of the 20's. Get the Cooper STT.

I love my Toyo's but they weigh a lot and unless you plan on wheeling a lot there is no point in getting that heavy of a tire.

 

[HunterFL772]

Well I cant wait to see what you end up going with! Your truck is awesome. Nope, Sunday is my planned install date, I am still on vacation in Myrtle Beach. I will have pics up as soon as i do!

 

[dubie2003]

You keep playing down the idea of gears but if you haul or tow anything, gears are going to be a must. If you look at some of the online calculators that figure out final gear ratios, you will notice that the difference in 33s vs the 35s is going to be enough to warranty gears. Then the weight issue. I know you said ~9lbs but that is on a rotating assembly. Not only will it take more power to move, but it will take better braking to stop.

To do it correctly, you should re-gear for the 35s and probably ditch the 20s for 18s since they are more friendly for offroading. If you are a mall crawler, then keep the 20s but for practicality, go with 18s.

Isn't there some analogy where each lb of wheel weight is like 7lbs of static weight in the vehicle? 9lbs x 4 tires is 36lbs x 7lbs for static is around 250lbs. This is extra weight that you will have to carry around all the time and the worst part is that you will have to accelerate that much extra weight every time you stop/start.

 

[Avplayer]

Plan ahead and there are no issues. Gears are a must; and should be available now for the front and rear...although you need to swap to an m205 front diff to re-gear it. For the rear, the stock locker/spider gears are the weak point, upgrading to a TrueTrac resolves that issue pretty quickly. As for wheel bearings, for over 2 years and quite a few desert trips I have ran heavy race tires (36") with beadlocks without any issues.

will that still be electronic locker?