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I talked with Ray from Frontier Squad and he has a 2wd like I do and he is running 35inch tires with no power additives. He said that he doesn't notice much accept for highway driving. I was curious to see if anyone else has done the same and results. If a Bully Tuner was added and running 91octane tune if that would make up the difference?

I checked the weight of two similar tires 33 vs 35's and it is 40lbs different for all for tires
 

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As a DD I'd regear if going 35s. Pretty sure I'd look into/research better brakes as well. You'll no doubt take a hit in perceived power & real world fuel economy.
 
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Bullydog adds very little to a gas motor.
Barely noticeable in my opinion.
I use mine for clearing codes.
With a diesel , that's another story.
90 hp at the rear wheel atmiddle setting. 120hp at the rear wheel set at the highest.
 

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Thanks for the advice. 95% of my driving is in the city and on the highway. I'm looking for a good Mud Tire with decent mileage that hums. What are you running?

Have you heard of the Cooper Discoverer MTP? I read it is a Discount tire exclusive only.

Bullydog adds very little to a gas motor.
Barely noticeable in my opinion.
I use mine for clearing codes.
With a diesel , that's another story.
90 hp at the rear wheel atmiddle setting. 120hp at the rear wheel set at the highest.


They claim 25-30 hp but I'm sure that is before the wheels. I'm not looking for a horsepower increase from what I got...just enough to offset going with bigger tires.
 

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265/75/16 MT's, Toyo.
 

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265/75/16 MT's, Toyo.
Do they make 285's? I'd like to go to 33's....I like the look of a wider tire for the aggressive look.
 

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Yes
 

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UpRev > BDGT
 

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If you go to 35's, 4:56 gears would be best in my opinion.
 

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I talked with Ray from Frontier Squad and he has a 2wd like I do and he is running 35inch tires with no power additives. He said that he doesn't notice much accept for highway driving. I was curious to see if anyone else has done the same and results. If a Bully Tuner was added and running 91octane tune if that would make up the difference?

I checked the weight of two similar tires 33 vs 35's and it is 40lbs different for all for tires
I think Ray feeding you a little bit of a line. When I went from the 265/75's to 285's I did feel a little difference in power, mainly on the street. I went with Duratracs which are one of the lighter 33's out there.

Also, that 40 pounds is multiplied by the tire diameter. So, each tire is 10lb more and bigger in diameter.

What gearing does your truck have?
 

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I don't have a 2wd but I do have a 6cyl with 3.357 gears and I'm running 305/70/16 basically 33s. Also have an IMS and CAI which I can't really say they do much but with my Hypertech programmer that eliminates the WOT restriction, it helps the bottom end a lot. My tires also weigh about 60lbs. I have plenty of power with this set up but mpg is down to about 15-16ish


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I don't have a 2wd but I do have a 6cyl with 3.357 gears and I'm running 305/70/16 basically 33s. Also have an IMS and CAI which I can't really say they do much but with my Hypertech programmer that eliminates the WOT restriction, it helps the bottom end a lot. My tires also weigh about 60lbs. I have plenty of power with this set up but mpg is down to about 15-16ish


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You wanted the extra width for driving on sand IIRC. Otherwise going 285/75/r16 to get to 33 would have less drag and fitment/rub issues.
 

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You wanted the extra width for driving on sand IIRC. Otherwise going 285/75/r16 to get to 33 would have less drag and fitment/rub issues.
In my case width was important, but I was only stating what I have for comparison, seemed similar and relevant. I didn't see anything about what modification were being done to fit 35" tires, and Im thinking there will be, so I didn't think fitment was an issue. If no modifying has been done or planned yet than yes a narrower tire would definitely be better for fitment purposes and also power loss issues. When I heard 2wd and 35s I naturally guessed drop spindles.....
 

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In my case width was important, but I was only stating what I have for comparison, seemed similar and relevant. I didn't see anything about what modification were being done to fit 35" tires, and Im thinking there will be, so I didn't think fitment was an issue. If no modifying has been done or planned yet than yes a narrower tire would definitely be better for fitment purposes and also power loss issues. When I heard 2wd and 35s I naturally guessed drop spindles.....
Yes your absolutely right. I am doing the CST Spindle lift, I already have the adjustable Biltsteins on right now with the Deaver AAL's and the 4 inch 5125 shock. For the rear will be a 2 inch block so I should be at 6 in the front and 4 in the rear. From the past couple days I decided on what I am going with...285/75/16 BFG Mud Terrains and Fuel Revolver rims. Sometime after December I am having our Nissan Club Sponsor custom build me front and rear prerunner bumpers with lights and a few other things. He is going to put on the lift, wheels and tires....basically everything.

I think Ray feeding you a little bit of a line. When I went from the 265/75's to 285's I did feel a little difference in power, mainly on the street. I went with Duratracs which are one of the lighter 33's out there.

Also, that 40 pounds is multiplied by the tire diameter. So, each tire is 10lb more and bigger in diameter.

What gearing does your truck have?
I am pretty sure that I have the 3.13's. I hope the Bully Tuner does help, because that's the whole reason to buy it is to offset some power lost.
 

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Trim level? CC or KC? Auto trans?
 

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Crew Cab Auto
 

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The best thing about the tuners is their ability to remove the WOT (wide-open-throttle) restriction. You don't get a big increase in HP, mainly you're getting access to power you previously couldn't, hence the restriction. The few extra HP help at the top end and the unrestricted throttle add a lot to the bottom, we're restricted about 50% to around 40mph and getting that back is helpful with bigger tires...... expect a hit in mpg
 

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That's good information. I've never heard that before. Yeah I'm not worried about gas mileage.....I used to have a Jeep Patriot before this with a tiny 4 cylinder and my truck with the lift it has now gets better gas mileage. In my opinion knowingly lifting a truck you got to expect a drop in gas mileage.
 

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In regards to the bully dog I had my truck dynoed it put down 242 hp and 260 ft lbs of torque on a 265/75r16. A stock truck does around 210-215 hp to the rear wheels. For me it was a huge difference night and day between stock and the bully dog. As for 35s on stock gearing, I don't know what gear ratio is in your truck, but with a 4wd 6 speed it sucked. The truck was a dog. 4.56s got it back where it needed to be


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