I agree. Its a heavy truck running a larger normally aspirated motor with old school hydralic steering that takes at least 1 MPG. Like the second gen there are no magical mods that can rectify this. If the data on fuelly.com are accurate then the increased MPG's is less then 1 MPG on the third gen. I think emissions is better and the extra gears might deliver better mid band torque. But if Nissan was trying to gain noticeable gains in mileage I think they failed miserably.All it will do is encourage you to get on it more often and burn more fuel. Whatever mileage you get now is what you’ll get after or less. If Nissan could get a higher average they’d do it from the factory as a sales tool.
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If you want better mileage, slow down. Cheap plug-in dongles off FleaBay or scAmazon aren’t gonna do anything but lighten your wallet.Just wondering if anybody tried one of those performance chips that plug into the OBD2 port? If so did it increase the MPG?
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But/and the dash readout tells an even bigger lie in the Gen 3s for those who'd choose to believe it.I agree. Its a heavy truck running a larger normally aspirated motor with old school hydralic steering that takes at least 1 MPG. Like the second gen there are no magical mods that can rectify this. If the data on fuelly.com are accurate then the increased MPG's is less then 1 MPG on the third gen. I think emissions is better and the extra gears might deliver better mid band torque. But if Nissan was trying to gain noticeable gains in mileage I think they failed miserably.
Cruise Control uses more gas. It is constantly on and off the throttle. It is better to hold a steady throttle position and let the speed vary slightly than to try and keep a constant speed.Best things you can do is use cruise as much as possible
If your higher average means higher average fuel economy, then not true. Performance ALWAYS out sells fuel economy. The marketing departments use many tools to determine what makes vehicles sell more at a higher profit. Customers, even very car savy customers, will often forget about the high maintenance items like CV boots and timing belts when inside the dealership walls. From the design of the showroom to the training of the sales force, everything is programmed to divert your attention away from what they think could be a deal breaker.If Nissan could get a higher average they’d do it from the factory as a sales tool.
It’s the corporate fleet average the company needs to make the government happy.Cruise Control uses more gas. It is constantly on and off the throttle. It is better to hold a steady throttle position and let the speed vary slightly than to try and keep a constant speed.
The 9 speed transmission in Mercedes form came with two shift programs, one for performance and one for economy. It feels to me that Nissan chose a program closer to the performance one than the econo one. If I were manually shifting, I would shift sooner than the program does.
If your higher average means higher average fuel economy, then not true. Performance ALWAYS out sells fuel economy. The marketing departments use many tools to determine what makes vehicles sell more at a higher profit. Customers, even very car savy customers, will often forget about the high maintenance items like CV boots and timing belts when inside the dealership walls. From the design of the showroom to the training of the sales force, everything is programmed to divert your attention away from what they think could be a deal breaker.
The cruise control gas consumption is subject to the terrain your drive. Surface streets in my area are flat and ideal for cruise control. Anyone in the Rockies or the Appalachian mountains roads might want to temper their foot rather than use cruise control if they're after better MPGs.Cruise Control uses more gas. It is constantly on and off the throttle. It is better to hold a steady throttle position and let the speed vary slightly than to try and keep a constant speed.
They lying!Really who needs plug in dongles when folks on here are reporting (so far) 30mpg in the gen 3's.
Probably because Nissan wanted the motor to hit the torque band. Shifting early is a torque killer. But I expect with light footed acceleration the 3.8 probably does not get near its full torque. Even the 4 liter shifts pretty quick. A little too quick at times. I think the first couple of years of the 5 speed had better mapping.The 9 speed transmission in Mercedes form came with two shift programs, one for performance and one for economy. It feels to me that Nissan chose a program closer to the performance one than the econo one. If I were manually shifting, I would shift sooner than the program does.
Believe me there is no Frontier from any year that gets close to that number.Thats always a possibility, Seems odd most get about 20mpg, then one guy gets 30mpg,but maybe math isn't that persons strongpoint......