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Going to add a preface here as this was a thread started by me but not created by me (powers of the woman in blue). Anyways, this thread is to have a discussion about the current Truck of the Month format. Below was my original response in the November TOTM nomination thread:

I second redV6. 3 days left, only two trucks in. The reason the TOTM was gone for over a year just a little while ago was lack of participation, and it looks like history is repeating itself once again.
This current and past format doesn't seem to be sparking enough energy or responses from the CF members and therefore, the Mod Squad would like to hear your members' suggestions as to how to either improve or perhaps do away with the TOTM altogether. Annnnnnnd go.....
 

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I second redV6. 3 days left, only two trucks in. The reason the TOTM was gone for over a year just a little while ago was lack of participation, and it looks like history is repeating itself once again.


What if you include the nominees from the previous month? Another idea is to run the TOTM on a "quarterly" basis, but do a THREAD OF THE MONTH to promote useful threads to the foreground.
 

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What if you include the nominees from the previous month? Another idea is to run the TOTM on a "quarterly" basis, but do a THREAD OF THE MONTH to promote useful threads to the foreground.

Thanks for your input. I'm going to address this later (in its own thread) when I have time to post something thoughtful.
 

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Looks like a nice truck, and not many of us can afford to do all those crazy mods and upgrades, that you typically see with all the TOTM winners.
I do like all the nominees trucks so far, but money always seems to win, and I think that needs to change...
Maybe different classes for the TOTM?
Not trying to detract from the award, just thinking of ways to get more participation.
 

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I moved the TOTM discussion-type posts to their own thread (this thread). I've been planning on creating a thread like this anyway because I want to change the way the contest is run in 2016.

I'll come back later and add my own thoughts and questions to this thread. In the meantime, please share your opinions on TOTM here, not in the nomination thread.
 

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Can it be morphed in to truck of the month / member of the month thing? I feel like there are members who while they have not and maybe will not be building an epic trail rig, are contributing large amounts of info to the forum.

From that, request a few pics of their truck and what modifications they have done, how their truck is used, future plans, etc.

Or, have the member / truck of the month become a thing where folks put their own name "in a hat" and one person is picked from that list and they and their truck is featured?
 

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I was just about to launch into a lengthy speech, but I'm going to pause for a moment after seeing shizzy's post...

This is the second time I've seen "Member of the Month" come up as a suggestion and I'm somewhat intrigued by the idea. Ever since I have started running this contest, I constantly get complaints about how TOTM is "always" the built 4WD trucks that go off road and that it isn't fair. There are a lot of members here who are valuable contributors to the forum, but they are never recognized for their efforts. Tweaking the contest would place the emphasis on the member as a whole and not just the vehicle that they drive.

Separating this contest out into different classes (4WD/lifted/off road and 2WD/street) has come up a bunch of times...but unless you guys could talk another moderator into doing it that's simply not happening. If you guys want to keep these "Thing of the Month" contests going in 2016, then I am happy to do it for you. But for personal reasons, there are going to be changes made to the contest that will cause me to need to spend less time on it, not more. The older I get, the more I'm learning not to stretch myself thin, and I'm not sure you guys realize how much time goes into these things. Sorry if that sounds selfish. The last thing I want to do is end up like the last moderator who got burned out doing these and virtually disappeared off the face of the earth. ;)

But enough about me, let's keep going down the path of this "Member of the Month" idea. I'd really like to hear some other thoughts on this (for or against).
 

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These are all good ideas and as is now, you can always nominate any member you see fit for any reason. However, as said, it is usually the most extreme 4x4s that win time and time again, but hey, this is a democracy and if that's how the majority wishes to vote, then so be it.

My two cents - I think that the nomination thread needs to be made simple. People can put up as many names as they see fit, no second needed, and then the vote thread just links back to the nomination thread. Therefore, you need to explain who and why you are nominating someone (or yourself) in order to gain votes. Easy peasy. Every quarter isn't a bad idea, either.
 

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These are all good ideas and as is now, you can always nominate any member you see fit for any reason. However, as said, it is usually the most extreme 4x4s that win time and time again, but hey, this is a democracy and if that's how the majority wishes to vote, then so be it.

You were typing as I was editing my post. People can nominate or vote for whoever they want either way, but I think the idea here is to put the emphasis on the member (which can include their truck) rather than putting the emphasis on the truck itself.

My two cents - I think that the nomination thread needs to be made simple. People can put up as many names as they see fit, no second needed, and then the vote thread just links back to the nomination thread. Therefore, you need to explain who and why you are nominating someone (or yourself) in order to gain votes. Easy peasy. Every quarter isn't a bad idea, either.

I've already decided to simplify the voting thread. Putting pics in two different threads is redundant and unnecessary.

If we stick with TOTM rather than MOTM, other ideas I'm considering are changing it to a quarterly contest or limiting it to 5 trucks.
 

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I like the member of the month, and possibly do it by quarter instead of by month to save time.

An example of this I remember in the past is Suzokie, who is not on here much anymore because his truck got rear ended.

Suzokie noticed a new members post who said they were looking for a truck to buy, but it was too far away from them to look at it.

Suzokie noticed it was near where he was taking a business trip shortly, and took an hour out of his business trip, to find the truck, look at it, and write up a complete review on the the truck with pictures, for this new member.

Suzokie may have never been a candidate for truck of the month, but with member of the month he would at least leave the opportunity to be recognized.
 

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You were typing as I was editing my post. People can nominate or vote for whoever they want either way, but I think the idea here is to put the emphasis on the member (which can include their truck) rather than putting the emphasis on the truck itself.




I've already decided to simplify the voting thread. Putting pics in two different threads is redundant and unnecessary.

If we stick with TOTM rather than MOTM, other ideas I'm considering are changing it to a quarterly contest or limiting it to 5 trucks.

Well, I have nominated Chuck a few times because he is a cool cat on this forum and his truck is almost stock. Both times, he never got voted as TOTM - the masses vote how the masses like. Though this sounds like a virtuous idea, I think it will fail.
 

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Offroad TOTM
Street-Truck TOTM

Realizing most here are into wheeling, some of us are on-road only.
 

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I think that we could have three categories: TOTM, thread of the month, and member of the month.

TOTM: As mentioned above this seems to focus more on how built up a rig is, so perhaps the mods could tweak the competition a bit each month (or quarter), such as PRETTIEST WHITE TRUCK OF THE MONTH - a totally stock white truck could win this, for example. Another example could be: BEST LOOKING SEATS IN THE HOUSE. Whatever!

The other two categories could simply be DESIGNATED by the mods (and save the headaches of running them as "elections"). I trust my mods to point me to a helpful member, and a useful thread - mods see way more threads than any of us does over the course of a month, so should be most qualified to make these decisions. This should be less work for the mods than having to run two additional elections each month.
 

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Offroad TOTM
Street-Truck TOTM

Realizing most here are into wheeling, some of us are on-road only.
Yes, and without my plea there were only two trucks nominated for TOTM as 4x4s. The participation is low, therefore the interest must be low, therefore less work, not more work, is needed for us Mods if the masses do not wish to participate.
 

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I was just about to launch into a lengthy speech, but I'm going to pause for a moment after seeing shizzy's post...

This is the second time I've seen "Member of the Month" come up as a suggestion and I'm somewhat intrigued by the idea. Ever since I have started running this contest, I constantly get complaints about how TOTM is "always" the built 4WD trucks that go off road and that it isn't fair. There are a lot of members here who are valuable contributors to the forum, but they are never recognized for their efforts. Tweaking the contest would place the emphasis on the member as a whole and not just the vehicle that they drive.

Separating this contest out into different classes (4WD/lifted/off road and 2WD/street) has come up a bunch of times...but unless you guys could talk another moderator into doing it that's simply not happening. If you guys want to keep these "Thing of the Month" contests going in 2016, then I am happy to do it for you. But for personal reasons, there are going to be changes made to the contest that will cause me to need to spend less time on it, not more. The older I get, the more I'm learning not to stretch myself thin, and I'm not sure you guys realize how much time goes into these things. Sorry if that sounds selfish. The last thing I want to do is end up like the last moderator who got burned out doing these and virtually disappeared off the face of the earth. ;)

But enough about me, let's keep going down the path of this "Member of the Month" idea. I'd really like to hear some other thoughts on this (for or against).
I hear you on the spreading yourself too thing part. I own / live in an 85 year old Duplex with my disabled Mother in law living in the lower unit, have two jobs and multiple hobbies.

And that, is one reason why I will never have a highly modified truck. Never the time and or money.

Well, I have nominated Chuck a few times because he is a cool cat on this forum and his truck is almost stock. Both times, he never got voted as TOTM - the masses vote how the masses like. Though this sounds like a virtuous idea, I think it will fail.
THis is why I was suggesting the "name in a hat" thing.

But, In the end, I'd say keep it dead simple or eliminate it all together.
 

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Maybe just require a minimum number of nominations to participate, then randomly display a different one each month (once you are displayed, you are removed until the others have cycled through)... Then it becomes more of a featured truck/member and less of a competition. Might also draw some of the lurkers out of the shadows as well...
 

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Maybe just require a minimum number of nominations to participate, then randomly display a different one each month (once you are displayed, you are removed until the others have cycled through)... Then it becomes more of a featured truck/member and less of a competition. Might also draw some of the lurkers out of the shadows as well...
I'm liking this idea.
 

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Just another idea here....
On the Subaru forum I'm on they do "ride of the month" but its themed and its the opposite over there. Street Roo's are all to common and the off road guys always got left out so they have a different theme each month. Ones I can think of were "Show your roo getting dirty", "show your roo at a car meet", "show your roo doing work", etc. It makes it interesting each month as the variety on mods is very different each month with members from all walks of life.

Link: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulletin/f141/

I do like the member one though as I agree with the others that there are some awesome people here that have stockish trucks that don't seem to get much love when pitted against the super modded.
 
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