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Sons truck threw a PO-732 code last week. Two of the possible problems was a bad knock sensor and bad TB positioner. Was able to relocate knock sensor to top of intake as seen on multiple videos. Disconnected battery and code cleared. Truck runs great. Problem is it now has NO reverse. All this happened at same time. No other transmission issues or warning. Could ther be an internal code or something holding the transmission in a safe mode? Any help would be greatly appreciated. FYI fluid and filter need replacing. Will do if I can fix simple or cheap. No need to waste money at this point

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Sons truck threw a PO-732 code last week. Two of the possible problems was a bad knock sensor and bad TB positioner. Was able to relocate knock sensor to top of intake as seen on multiple videos. Disconnected battery and code cleared. Truck runs great. Problem is it now has NO reverse. All this happened at same time. No other transmission issues or warning. Could ther be an internal code or something holding the transmission in a safe mode? Any help would be greatly appreciated. FYI fluid and filter need replacing. Will do if I can fix simple or cheap. No need to waste money at this point

Todd
Trans cable appears to be shifting correctly from looking at it from under the truck
 

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The knock sensor was a recommended repair from Autozone ODB printout. Thanks for the infor on the. I will see if I can find anything in the manuals
I suggest you head to this site https://www.nicoclub.com/nissan-service-manuals, and grab the manuals. The AT section shows this "DTC P0732 IMPROPER SHIFTING TO 2ND GEAR POSITION".
Not sure how you got to the knock sensor on that code, but I don't see them being related. You may have some electrical gremlins related to the transmission. Good luck.
 

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I suggest you head to this site https://www.nicoclub.com/nissan-service-manuals, and grab the manuals. The AT section shows this "DTC P0732 IMPROPER SHIFTING TO 2ND GEAR POSITION".
Not sure how you got to the knock sensor on that code, but I don't see them being related. You may have some electrical gremlins related to the transmission. Good luck.
Brought truck to Nissan dealer this earlier. Had them put truck on computer to see if any codes were there and not throwing a check engine light. PO-732 and PO-733 came up. Talked to the tech and he said in his experience the reverse gear is out. And a new or replacement transmission would be needed. Didnt ask him but could a bad reverse solenoid hold out the fluid pressure to the reverse system somehow? Dealer price for a trans is approximately $4100. Truck probably isnt worth that much.
 

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Brought truck to Nissan dealer this earlier. Had them put truck on computer to see if any codes were there and not throwing a check engine light. PO-732 and PO-733 came up. Talked to the tech and he said in his experience the reverse gear is out. And a new or replacement transmission would be needed. Didnt ask him but could a bad reverse solenoid hold out the fluid pressure to the reverse system somehow? Dealer price for a trans is approximately $4100. Truck probably isnt worth that much.
Sorry, I have no idea what these codes could cause in regards to transmission operation. One thing I will say, is that "usually" transmissions failures aren't surprise things like this, you may notice some slipping or slow shifting before failure. Large mechanical failures in a transmission will usually be accompanied by noise or a big clunk when it happens. If you have experienced none of those, I'd be hoping it could be something electrical. Sorry, but I'm not much help past this.

One more thing. I'd call around to transmission shops first and ask if they have experience with these. I can't imagine any dealers would even consider opening up a transmission to repair it, they just swap in a new one.
 

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Guess I'm bored today. Check out this link, may be similar - https://forums.nicoclub.com/cel-incorrect-gear-ratios-code-p0731-etc-t517735.html
I could see how a bad TPS (throttle position sensor) could cause some issues with the transmission. Get a code reader and you should be able to view the TPS output as you step the gas down.
Very much easier than a replacement transmission. I am also thinking it's electrical. The TPS is easy to get to and relatively easy to replace. Guess that's my next attempt for now. On another note I found an 02 Frontier trans locally with 110K miles for $800 if all else fails
 

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Very much easier than a replacement transmission. I am also thinking it's electrical. The TPS is easy to get to and relatively easy to replace. Guess that's my next attempt for now. On another note I found an 02 Frontier trans locally with 110K miles for $800 if all else fails
Sounds good. I just hate seeing people spending time and money throwing parts at something based off a recommendation they heard from "some guy on the internet". TPS should be pretty easy to check with a scanner prior to swapping it out. That manual has test procedures at home as well I believe, but not 100% sure.
 

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The TPS was often the cause of codes like P0731/P0732/P0733. It's not hard to replace, however, proper adjustment of it is critical and the closed throttle position must be relearned afterwards. As far as adjustment, the procedure is specific and requires using feeler gauges and an ohmmeter. Consult the TSP or the EC section of the Factory Service Manual for the proper procedure. Relearning the closed throttle position technically requires a scan too to monitor the switch to see it switching from "on" to "off" while turning and releasing the throttle drum. Usually, turning the key "on," then turning the key "off" after a couple of seconds and repeating this cycle about 12 or 13 times will work. That said, a faulty TPS will not cause a no reverse situation. You already stated the shift cable was good. The most likely cause is a bad reverse clutch drum. What often happens is the snap ring will pop out of the groove in the reverse clutch drum which makes it impossible for the piston in the drum to compress the clutch frictions and steels together. This occurs on a number of automatic transmissions, not just Nissans. It use to happen a lot in the Chrysler transaxles used in the 90s. The fix for this, however, is teardown the transmission and replace the reverse clutch drum (at which point, one might as well rebuild the transmission) or replacement of the transmission.
 

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The TPS was often the cause of codes like P0731/P0732/P0733. It's not hard to replace, however, proper adjustment of it is critical and the closed throttle position must be relearned afterwards. As far as adjustment, the procedure is specific and requires using feeler gauges and an ohmmeter. Consult the TSP or the EC section of the Factory Service Manual for the proper procedure. Relearning the closed throttle position technically requires a scan too to monitor the switch to see it switching from "on" to "off" while turning and releasing the throttle drum. Usually, turning the key "on," then turning the key "off" after a couple of seconds and repeating this cycle about 12 or 13 times will work. That said, a faulty TPS will not cause a no reverse situation. You already stated the shift cable was good. The most likely cause is a bad reverse clutch drum. What often happens is the snap ring will pop out of the groove in the reverse clutch drum which makes it impossible for the piston in the drum to compress the clutch frictions and steels together. This occurs on a number of automatic transmissions, not just Nissans. It use to happen a lot in the Chrysler transaxles used in the 90s. The fix for this, however, is teardown the transmission and replace the reverse clutch drum (at which point, one might as well rebuild the transmission) or replacement of the transmission.
Thank you for the information. Havent fooled with the TPS. But did take truck to two trans shops today. One scanned it. PO-732 and 733 codes were there. But also a 00 initial start code. Not sure what that is or if its related. Lady that did scan had never seen that code before. Dealer on Saturday also mentioned something like that. And the second shop just called back. Looks like I'm getting a new or replacement trans

Thanks for the info..

Todd
 
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