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Bilstein 5100 max height with 3" spacer

so I already have a supreme suspensions (eBay) 3" front and 2" rear leveling kit and I just ordered Bilstein 5100 for the front. I've already trimmed the coil bucket. im looking for some advice. if I run the Bilstein at max height with the spacer how much lift would I need in the rear? im not so worried about the ride quality as I drive it on highway mostly. has anyone tried this?
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so I already have a supreme suspensions (eBay) 3" front and 2" rear leveling kit and I just ordered Bilstein 5100 for the front. I've already trimmed the coil bucket. im looking for some advice. if I run the Bilstein at max height with the spacer how much lift would I need in the rear? im not so worried about the ride quality as I drive it on highway mostly. has anyone tried this?
You can not run a 3" lift spacer with a 5100 set at max (2") and expect 5" of lift. There isn't 5" of suspension travel to be able to gain you 5" of lift. With your current set up, you have as much lift as you can pump out of your suspension. If you want more you will need to get a drop bracket lift or a body lift.

And it is not really about ride quality. Years ago in High School we lifted a Nissan Hardbody truck to the MAX. Arms all the way down so there was no more down travel. 2wd, and then put 31" tires on it. 99% highway driven. One day going down US101, there is a section through Santa Barbra with some "whoops" (just unsmooth sections at the over pass). Bounced his suspension tore the mounts to 2 of his control arms off. His awesome lift couldn't even handle going down the highway.

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You can not run a 3" lift spacer with a 5100 set at max (2") and expect 5" of lift. There isn't 5" of suspension travel to be able to gain you 5" of lift. With your current set up, you have as much lift as you can pump out of your suspension. If you want more you will need to get a drop bracket lift or a body lift.

And it is not really about ride quality. Years ago in High School we lifted a Nissan Hardbody truck to the MAX. Arms all the way down so there was no more down travel. 2wd, and then put 31" tires on it. 99% highway driven. One day going down US101, there is a section through Santa Barbra with some "whoops" (just unsmooth sections at the over pass). Bounced his suspension tore the mounts to 2 of his control arms off. His awesome lift couldn't even handle going down the highway.
I just figured out that my actual spacer is 1.5 and not a full 3" would it still be overkill?
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I just figured out that my actual spacer is 1.5 and not a full 3" would it still be overkill?
3 inches is max with stock arms
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3 inches is max with stock arms
if set the bilsteins at 1.50" and ran my spacers would that be okay?
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if set the bilsteins at 1.50" and ran my spacers would that be okay?
No, your 1.5" thick spacer actually lifts the truck 3 inches, adding another 1.5" of lift from the Bilsteins will put you at 4.5" of lift. 3 inches of lift is max with stock arms.

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No, your 1.5" thick spacer actually lifts the truck 3 inches, adding another 1.5" of lift from the Bilsteins will put you at 4.5" of lift. 3 inches of lift is max with stock arms.
I think his question, or at least mine, would be what would the 5100's need to be set at when using the 3 inch spacers? Just set the 5100's to what would otherwise be their stock (no lift)?

I understand 3 inches is the max. So alternatively, would it be better to use the 5100's set to 3 inches with no spacer?

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If you run that spacer you will have some bad stuff going on. No down travel would not only be harsh but potentially damaging. You will get major shock crush, and need to run a taller bump stop to limit the already limited suspension travel. You have a total of 5.5" of suspension travel. In stock form it is set about 2" up and 3" down. Lift comes from this 3" of down travel. At 3" of lift, you have no down travel. You can not gain anymore lift past 3".

Just set the 5100 at 2" and call it a day. If you want more, get some aftermarket upper control arms. This can yeild you a total of 7.5" of suspension travel. Then add a 1.5" lift spacer (3/4" thick) and that is about the most lift you will be able to get with your truck, unless you add a drop bracket, titan swap or a body lift.

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No, your 1.5" thick spacer actually lifts the truck 3 inches, adding another 1.5" of lift from the Bilsteins will put you at 4.5" of lift. 3 inches of lift is max with stock arms.
That is correct. That is called the “motion https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_ratio

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I think his question, or at least mine, would be what would the 5100's need to be set at when using the 3 inch spacers? Just set the 5100's to what would otherwise be their stock (no lift)?

I understand 3 inches is the max. So alternatively, would it be better to use the 5100's set to 3 inches with no spacer?

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5100's max out at 2"... you could possibly run a 1/4 - 1/2" spacer with a max lift of 3", however at that point you really should replace the UCA's

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