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Could you report back if you were able to do it without purchasing a fitting. I am not sure if
A)I lucked out
b) it's done on Nismos only
c) it's done on all frontiers that way

Just so you know, it will take longer to remove the skid plate and air damn then to actually do the bypass. Since I had drained prior to bypass, I only got maybe 2~4 oz. out of the hoses.

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I got the truck back today!!

Total cost to me = $75
Total cost including what I paid = $1542.23

I spoke with the service manager and mechanic's manager for some time when I picked up the truck since the warranty company declined to replace the transmission (said if transmission would fail, it would happen prior to coverage ending and then be covered as a result).

As it turns out, prior to my visit, they had only had one instance of this and the vehicle had 200K miles on it. Since I dropped my truck off on Monday, they have now had two other instances (one frontier and one pathfinder). They said out of the three this week, mine showed the least amount of fluids mixing. One of the others had fluid inside the transmission that was the consistency of strawberry yogurt. The mechanic's manager said it wouldn't be a bad idea to drop fluid and refill along with oil changes for a little while just in case.

Since they had a rash of these, they took apart my old radiator to find out where it failed. Had my camera been charged, I would have photos of the piece. You'll have to settle for a description.

Between the nipples where the vacuum caps are placed is an aluminium tub with a hollow core. Looks a lot like 1" black iron pipe (for those who know gas pipe). The "walls" of the pipe are where the transmission fluid go from point A to point B. The points (that's right, it was plural for mine) were where the nipples are joined to the pipe. They don't appear to be welded, maybe some sort of epoxy? There was a pinhole on each end at the joint. That is what allowed fluid to go from radiator to transmission and vice versa.

So, based on this thought, maybe it is failing due to the hoses moving? or it could be failing due to the bond between the nipple and the pipe not being correctly made.

Haven't driven the truck enough since I picked it up to test for the vibration I was feeling.

Now the breakdown of parts/labor/$$

Diagnose vibration -- labor = 103.33
Front driveshaft -- parts = 344.41
-- parts + labor = 447.74

Diagnose transmission -- labor = 197.27
Radiator -- parts = 377.00
-- parts + labor = 574.27

Cooling system flush -- labor = 128.51
-- parts = 61.48
-- parts + labor = 189.99

Flush transmission -- labor = 125.03
-- parts = 64.92
-- parts + labor = 189.95

Transmission fluid used was matic S.

I will see if I can go by tomorrow and get a picture of the cooler that failed. I need to find out why it only took 6 qts of transmission fluid to do this.

From what board has said in the past, and what dealer has said today, this seems like an early '05 issue.

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Could you report back if you were able to do it without purchasing a fitting. I am not sure if
A)I lucked out
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c) it's done on all frontiers that way
On my '07 CC SE, I did it without a fitting. There is enough slack in the hoses to make the bypass.
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Great, then it sounds like it can be done on all models without purchasing another fitting.
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Diagnose vibration -- labor = 103.33
Front driveshaft -- parts = 344.41
-- parts + labor = 447.74
So, did the vibration go away?

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Yes, vibration is gone.

I still can't personally say if the vibration was due to front drive shaft or transmission.
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I was fortunate enough for my dealer to find a very slight leak in the radiator its self after I complained about burbling in the heater core and a lowered coolant level.

So a brand new radiator later I'm hoping that I do not have the same luck!

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I was fortunate enough for my dealer to find a very slight leak in the radiator its self after I complained about burbling in the heater core and a lowered coolant level.

So a brand new radiator later I'm hoping that I do not have the same luck!
I wonder if this is an indicator. I also had burbling. Did the overfill the overflow and forgot about it. A few weeks later the burble came back but I didn't really pursue it for some reason.
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It appears that this is an 05 to 06 model problem. I did the bypass on Saturday and went to buy an extra quart of tranny oil just in case. The dealer had 2 06's in the shop with the same problem. NOT GOOD!! THis is not looking good for nissan!
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