I'm extremely upset right now. Ive been working on this for a while and I took my truck in today to get the pro comp 7089s put on. We've checked and they all are the right bolt pattern and offset of -12 mm and there the 16x8. Went to get them put on today and the rear ones fit, but the front ones dont. They got all scratched up on the inside cause the mounting bracket for the caliper totally scratches and rides on them. I dont know what to do. I talked to two pro comp tech guys and the main head technician. They all couldnt understand what was wrong. They said they specifically designed those rims for the frontiers and they've sold thousands of them and put them on frontiers. They said my frontier must be different than all the others. Im really tripping right now and Im pretty upset. Ive saved for a long time for these and have done my homework and theyre going to be difficult to return plus theyre all scratched and really they are the right ones. I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO?! Now i guess im calling the nissan dealer to see if different calipers were ever installed on it, but i dont see why and they look stock to me. Please help.
Just install some small wheel spacers...just thick enough so that the wheels clear the calipers.
Maybe the 4-bangers brake caliper brackets stick out more?? no idea...
Well I have to wait for my dad to be back to go pick up my truck so i cant get any pics yet. Im hoping i can maybe just find a way to do some grinding to fix the problem. I did buy the truck certified used, but I already called the dealer back and they said they show nothing changed in there records. Now it seems like i might be going to this place to get a wheel spacer made up, but i dont know how big to go and he said it would take like fricken 2 days and $125. He recommended 1", but im not sure. Does anyone know where i can buy spacers already made. It sounds like i might have to go that route and take it to put some longer stud threads on. Thanks guys for your quick replies, this is a good resource to have cause I actually trust your guys' knowledge more than these other gurus. Thanks.
Dude. I have no clue. What do you suggest. So your saying 1.5" offset way too much. I would think so, but Im not real smart in that category. Im still pissed because all the guys from pro comp say they should be fitting and they're absolutely positive they do. I dont understand or know what to do. I want to get this done. All i have is 2 pretty f'ed up rims that are supposed to fit, but dont, so i guess i have to make them work somehow. Still need some suggestions.
You first need to identify exactly what part of the caliper/bracket is touching and how much of it. It could be as simple as a little grinding and not require spacers at all.
If you need spacers:
most would recommend this one but prices are a bit steep compared to other places. I'm pretty sure they can ship out within a day since they keep the adapter blanks premade in stock. I dropped by the place unannounced, and they had me out in under an hour which included machine time for the bolt holes. WheelAdapter.com is your number one source for wheel adapters, wheel spacers, used wheels, and wheel studs.
thats exactly what i thought, but the guy said i had to return them to the place i bought them from. It looks like a hassle to return to them and they say they wont take them if theyre scratched. I just bought the wheels from them because it was such a good deal and when i unpacked them they all came in the packaging that was all sealed up properly from pro comp.
did the shop that installed them scratch them up or did you after you picked it up? I'm guessing they did since you mentioned you haven't picked it up yet.......so they should cover it if pro comp won't directly. they technically did the damage, not you.
Yah. But heres the catch. It was my uncle who is the manager at his tire shop and him and his guys did it and he already feels like **** for doing it. Oh and I just talked to pro comp and they dont care because the said and i quote, "We've already fit these rims on millions of frontiers so we know its not our problem and we cant let you return scratched up rims. Well we could let you return them, but we cant give you anything in exchange, you'll have to buy another set and try them."
. Oh and I just talked to pro comp and they dont care because the said and i quote, "We've already fit these rims on millions of frontiers so we know its not our problem and we cant let you return scratched up rims. Well we could let you return them, but we cant give you anything in exchange, you'll have to buy another set and try them."
I had clearance problems on the fronts also (American Racing wheels). All I did was grind down the caliper bracket, test fit, then grind more if needed. Fit fine after that and no problems since. Good luck.
Where exactly are the calipers hitting (are you positive it's the calipers?)...the inner section near the bolt circle, or closer to the outside lip? I had the same wheels in 17" and there is PLENTY of room for the caliper to clear on all sides.
Also, I had a similar issue with clearance with a different set of wheels and had to grind my calipers as well as taking them to a machinist to have them turned down. However, the ProComps are already lacking in material so taking them to a machinist wouldn't' be an option. I can tell you that there is absolutely no difference in any of the calipers that I have found. If you can take a picture of the wheels and your calipers I can definitely tell you what the issue with yours are either way.
Anyways so here is a picture of one of them. After getting a look at it im pretty sure Im just going to get like a 1/4" spacer and i should definitely clear it. I just got to hope that ill have enough thread on the studs for the lug nuts to grab. What do you guys think. I rather just go with a small spacer than grinding even if i have to get longer studs put in. Here it is.
maybe i'm just an idiot, but it looks to me like the 'center' of those rims is off center!! I would expect rubbing all the way around, but only on one side?!?!?!?! am i just dumb or does that look more like manufacturer defect then a bad fit?
yea, that's a good point - seems like it would rub all the way around. The amount of damage on those rims makes it look like that wheel was driven on before they realized it was rubbing. So something aint right.
The other question is what year truck do you have? I wonder if something changed in '09/10 and ProComp has not certified that yet. If Nissan changed a spec in the truck and ProComp is unaware, but claims the rim is good to go for that year then its back on them.
Before I ground on anything, I'd explore those issues. Cause even if you got to do some grinding, I'm sure you'd still rather have wheels that are not chewed up.
^From where im looking at its just the way the camera was angeld. If you could 5speed. Take some shots from directly above. An post them. It may be a manufactures defect but you would have to have pics to prove it.
Well the scratch is only like 3/4 of the way around because they noticed it and took it off before it made it all the way around I guess. So i was going to go to a machine shop and get some 1/4" spacers made. I need to know if you guys think that will solve the issue and if ill have enough threads on the studs to make it safely. Also when having them made what do i need to tell them cause i read somewhere about a difference with hub centric/wheel centric/lug centric. Whats the best one or right terminology so that the wheel stays center and theres no issues. Thanks guys.
Yah i thought it was hub centric. Thanks. Im probably going to get those made up. And i did look at them from the top and it all looks centered. The rear ones fit on perfectly and were centered and the front ones fit the pattern too and looked like they were right but obviously got all scraped up. Right now I just one to make them work. Still wondering about whether ill have enough thread left on the studs. Once i do get them to work though Ill be calling pro comp and giving them a little piece of my mind though. Problem is I do love the wheels and there on a ton of other frontiers and I just dont get that part of it. Thanks
If you add a spacer, I would highly suggest that you get longer studs. If you add an adapter, then you need to probably get a 1.25 since our stock lugs are longer then 1" and you will need that extra 0.25 for clearance.
I still don't think you need spacers/adapters thou. I am leaning towards grinding some and going from there.
I also don't think there is a difference between the 6089 and 7089 besides the finish (60 is chrome and 70 is matte black).
Lastly, you should probably go back to your grandpa's shop and have them re-mount them and show you what they are hitting exactly. You should see if their 3/4 of a turn could have caused other issues by bending something.
P.S. Don't worry about your TPMS light not coming on, it will. It just needs some time to confirm that you are without them and it will stay lit.
yah my uncle did it at his shop but im probably going to just jack it up in my driveway tomorrow and see if i can deal with it by grinding. And yes im pretty darn sure its the right rim. They've made thousands and it says -12mm offset and the bolt pattern is right and I know the only pro comp rims that have that offset are for the frontier. Something is just screwy. I guess ill look into some grinding before I have spacers made. Thanks guys. Input is always welcome. I think ill try the grinding. Sholdnt effect performance of the brakes right. Just a bracket?
Hope the grinding works out for you. If not, then get the wheel adapters. They will provide lug studs in the adapter itself so you wouldn't have to get longer studs for the truck. The adapter would be torqued down, then you would place the wheel onto the adapter studs and torque down the second set, if that makes sense. Look at the picture below. You will see one set of lug nuts already torqued down securing the adapter itself, then the new studs that come with the adapter for the wheels to be torqued down to. Good luck.
OK, after looking at your pictures...it's going to be close. If those are in fact the 7089's they have absolutely changed their design. I actually have 2 in the back of my truck and (I actually drove it today) I will go out around lunch and get a picture for you of mine...I will also check to see if they are stamped with the model number as well. I don't remember seeing that before.
You are going to need to take a bit off the caliper to clear that outer section. Good news is you won't have to grind the surface, just need to narrow down that bracket some. If you need it I can draw a picture of what I am referring too; kind of hard to explain. Also, as someone mentioned you can always get a 1/4" spacer...not the ones with lugs, but just a thick washer basically for your wheels. But as mentioned you will need longer studs for this since you won't be able to get enough bite on the stock ones once the wheels are pushed out.
There doesn't look to be any defects in the wheels, I am pretty sure that is just the angle the pictures are taken from. Also, if they got the wheels on and tried to drive I am sure they wouldn't have gone more than a half turn before realizing the issue..thus only scraping up one half of the wheel. As for changes, I know the 09's are absolutely no different in regards to the calipers. In regards to why they fit in the rear..not the front; that has nothing to do with the wheels the calipers are just completely different. I had no issues fitting my wheels in the rear, but had to machine the front wheels and clearance my calipers.
yah i have an 06. they checked and switched the rears to the fronts and they said the same thing was going to happen. as of now im going to try to do some grinding, but good point, maybe i should just get some wheel adapters so I don't have to worry about the new lugs.
Well I've got 7089's on my '06 and there was no rubbing or grinding required (anyway not from the wheels) so something is differant on your truck or in the way they made the wheels. hmmm
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