PRG mini-kit 1.5x1 opinions?

[jsocks014]

Originally Posted by Beneque

ZoomZoom are you really that stupid? I know you're just trying to get a reaction out of people but I didn't realize that you wouldn't read a post before putting one of your bull**** comment on it.

On the first line of my post I stated :

ZoomZoom are you a frustrated B series pickup owner by any chance?

JeniorNV I considered the Bilstein but since I want so little lift I thought maybe it really wouldn't matter? I figure going with the struts a slight bit more money and more work to install.

What would be the great advantage of struts?

In Zoom's defense, he did get a reaction out of you and there is plenty of info on this site that can be found. Moving on now, as Jen and others including myself have been throwing out there. 5100's are a great option over a spacer, easy to install, and you can make yourself a nice lift kit from scratch compared to an already thrown together kit with the 5100's. For about the same price, if not cheaper I may add

[zoomzoom]

Originally Posted by Beneque

ZoomZoom are you really that stupid? I know you're just trying to get a reaction out of people but I didn't realize that you wouldn't read a post before putting one of your bull**** comment on it.

On the first line of my post I stated :

ZoomZoom are you a frustrated B series pickup owner by any chance?

JeniorNV I considered the Bilstein but since I want so little lift I thought maybe it really wouldn't matter? I figure going with the struts a slight bit more money and more work to install.

What would be the great advantage of struts?

do you really believe all the other members on here are stupid enough to believe there are no threads discussing spacer lifts and related issues? if you'd have searched which you obviously did not do, you'd be surprised to see hundreds, i even dare say over a thousand, threads discussing the very questions you posted and deemed to be so unique and never asked in the 7+ years this truck has been in production.
The same question asked today and 2 years ago does not have different answers especially for a basic spacer lift. search goes a long way. so yes the info in the older thread is still valid. the new thread button should not always be the first option.

[SDHQJASON]

Originally Posted by 05Fronty4x

It depends. The 1.5" spacer will ride like stock, and the Bilstein set on 1.5" will be a bit stiffer. Whether that is "better" or not is determined by the driver.

As far as geometry, nothing is necessarily thrown off with the spacer. a 1.5" lift is a 1.5" lift. Your control arms and CV axles are at the same angle no matter how you do it. The main difference is that full droop before the spacer was most likely when the shock topped out, and now with the spacer full droop will be when the upper control arm hits the coil bucket. Some DIY bumpstops will remedy that for the most part, and I would recommend them either way the OP goes. Chances are you'll probably never even know that 1.5" spacer is in there unless you like to haul butt over speedbumps, drive off of curbs, or jump the front end off the ground.

The 5100 shock does gain you the height adjustability and makes for a good puzzle-piece in putting together a lift with options should you want to go a little higher in the future.

It will throw the geometry off do a certain degree. The stock suspension is designed for a shock that is about 15" extended. You are now adding 1.5" on top of that, so at full extension and compression of the shock you are exceeding the recommended specs of the suspension geometry when confined in the given space. The reason bilstein leveling shocks work better is because they do not exceed these limits. They achieve the lift by increasing the preload on the spring. That being said, an 1.5" isn't too bad and the coil bucket contact should prevent the majority of the damage that is caused by spacer lifts. BUt please don't be fooled that spacers don't throw off suspension geometry. There used to be an article from bilstein and Camburg on why spacers are not the best way to lift a vehicle.

[Beneque]

Zoom for one last time please read my post/question as you obviously have not done this yet.

I am asking about a specific lift kit from PRG. I have read TONS of threads on the 2x1.5 and higher kits/setups but none specific about the 1.5x1 kit. I have read *UPDATED* Suspension Lifts and Body Lifts for 2005+ *PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING HERE* over a few times to familiarize myself with the lift options.

I understand that many people post the same things over and over again but please before acting the way you do please read them thoroughly.

One last thing please feel free to disregard any of my future post.

[05Fronty4x]

Originally Posted by SDHQJASON

BUt please don't be fooled that spacers don't throw off suspension geometry. There used to be an article from bilstein and Camburg on why spacers are not the best way to lift a vehicle.

Which is exactly why I said this:
"The main difference is that full droop before the spacer was most likely when the shock topped out, and now with the spacer full droop will be when the upper control arm hits the coil bucket. Some DIY bumpstops will remedy that for the most part, and I would recommend them either way the OP goes."

Your point is valid, but only dangerous on a setup that isn't limited by bucket contact. You could put a 20" extended shock in there and it would make no difference. Bucket contact is bucket contact, and anything beyond that is meaningless.

The difference between the stock shock topping out and coilbucket contact is so minimal and varried that some people actually get bucket contact with the Bilsteins 5100's, meaning from a practicality standpoint, it's changing the geometry just as much as the spacer (for reasons stated above). The only loss to be had from the spacer is going with one tall enough that up travel is significantly reduced. Other than that, install bumpstops and you're good to go, especially with something as minimal as a 1.5" lift.

My head is wrapped around the geometry of our suspension well enough to understand what the different forms of lift do. Whether or not I'm efficient at communicating it through typing is another story, lol.

[frontear]

Originally Posted by Beneque

I'm searching on here about anyone with experience with the PRG 1.5 x 1 levelling kit and can't find anything.

I'm looking for a bit of lift, closer to being levelled, however I'd like to hear opinions on the possibility of CB contacts and any other potential issues. From what I read 2'' and under should not be an issue.

I'm also not looking to fit a 33'' for the moment and will not be wheeling anything extreme.

i have the 2" spacers and think i heard cb once on purpose jumping a speed bump. i havent been off road with them yet, but if something looks rough, i'll take it slow anyway. i also only do some light wheeling, so maximum suspension travel isnt cost effective as a little more clearance to me.

as far as over extending the shock the 1.5" kit doesnt come with the bumpstops, so if greg at prg probably isnt worried about it, i wouldnt be either. the bumpstop came with the 2" spacer 1.5 aal kit i bought.

im running 265/75/16's and really like how they look with my kit. i also really like the kit itself. i opted for the aal's because i always have at least one dirtbike in my truck, and the ride really is better. i do still have some rake though.

sorry i cant give you feedback on the exact kit your looking at. your truck is going ride exactly as is it does now with spacers and blocks. if 33's might go on your truck one day, go with the 2" spacer. itll be that much less of a chance to have to trim and melt anything

[Beneque]

Thanks for all the info guys and/or girls I plan on keeping the stock tire size for a long time once it becomes an offroad toy then it will probably be the full meal deal.

[zoomzoom]

Originally Posted by Beneque

Zoom for one last time please read my post/question as you obviously have not done this yet.

I am asking about a specific lift kit from PRG. I have read TONS of threads on the 2x1.5 and higher kits/setups but none specific about the 1.5x1 kit. I have read *UPDATED* Suspension Lifts and Body Lifts for 2005+ *PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING HERE* over a few times to familiarize myself with the lift options.

I understand that many people post the same things over and over again but please before acting the way you do please read them thoroughly.

One last thing please feel free to disregard any of my future post.

i fail to see the difference between a spacer from prg or a spacer from abc or a spacer from xyz. One spacer does not "space" better than another spacer. it is not a coil spring which has different spring rates between companies. you are asking about a spacer. it's essentially a block of metal. because it's made from aluminum and shiny vs painted steel does not make it "space" better. so what exactly is your point and reasoning for this repeat thread?

you read 10 spacer threads, most will say the ride is similar to stock. will starting this new thread suddenly change the properties of a spacer lift and have people reply that the ride magically becomes better than stock?

you read 10 spacer threads and most will say once you pass 2", the frequency of CB contact increases. will this repeat thread magically have people reply the opposite?

so again i ask. why the need for antagonism and a repeat thread? your questions have been asked repeatedly to death on here over the past 7+ years. yet you seem to believe that your questions are truly unique, have neer been asked, and deserved a new thread.

a spacer is a spacer. all do the same thing. it comes down to whether you want to overpay for a pretty shiny one or save some money going with an ugly painted steel one.