WRP pulley causes problems for Titan

[MOBEEBO]

Do any of these guys have any PROOF that the pulley has done anything? No. They BELIEVE it is responsible because all of the trucks with a cracked flexplate have a pulley. The engines are internally balanced just like ours, if the vibration was that bad the belt tensioner and accessories would have a problem first in my opinion. I think all of the beating on the trucks at the dragstrip is responsible for it. That flexplate is a weak oem one. If you want to go racing than beef it up or break it.

[igbar]

Originally Posted by MOBEEBO

Do any of these guys have any PROOF that the pulley has done anything? No. They BELIEVE it is responsible because all of the trucks with a cracked flexplate have a pulley. The engines are internally balanced just like ours, if the vibration was that bad the belt tensioner and accessories would have a problem first in my opinion. I think all of the beating on the trucks at the dragstrip is responsible for it. That flexplate is a weak oem one. If you want to go racing than beef it up or break it.

So the common denomenator are both the pulley and the fact that they race. Find someone who races without the pulley and see if he/she has a broken flexplate or vice-versa. To be fair, I think both sides of the argument are being a bit hasty with pointing the blame to either or without conclusive proof. But circumstantially, they seemed to be racing before without the WRP pulley installed and without issues. --maybe it was just a matter of time, but...

But the burden of proof lies with the accused, yes? I'm still not sure, but that's where I would go if I were to argue the point...which I'm not. (disclaimer)

[sexy6chick]

Yea it's just a coincidence that they all experienced a flexplate issue after installing Will's CP...just like it's just a conincidence that the majority of people who installed the IMS experienced issues with it, and I don't want to hear "no one knows how to install it." That's a BS excuse. The proof is there, whether you choose to see/agree with it or not.

[Mandangalo]

Originally Posted by sexy6chick

Yea it's just a coincidence that they all experienced a flexplate issue after installing Will's CP...just like it's just a conincidence that the majority of people who installed the IMS experienced issues with it, and I don't want to hear "no one knows how to install it." That's a BS excuse. The proof is there, whether you choose to see/agree with it or not.

well...to say the majority of IMS buyer experienced the gasket problem is incorrect. Only GB #3 had the problem. Im not defending him, hell i was in GB #3 and just put the new gasket on. But GB #1 & 2 had no issues, at least reported issues. Just trying to get facts straight that most did not have a problem with the IMS

[sexy6chick]

Originally Posted by Mandangalo

well...to say the majority of IMS buyer experienced the gasket problem is incorrect. Only GB #3 had the problem. Im not defending him, hell i was in GB #3 and just put the new gasket on. But GB #1 & 2 had no issues, at least reported issues. Just trying to get facts straight that most did not have a problem with the IMS

I should have clarified that I was referring to the GB #3 recipients, that is my mistake.

[MOBEEBO]

Also, to be fair, the Titan pulley was independently tested for balance and was found to be fine. Do a web search for flexplates and you will find that they break all of the time if stressed. Heck, the Cummins Diesel guys are breaking them and last I checked Will doesn't make a CP for the Cummins. There is a large market for beefed up flexplates they need to get one if they plan to beat on their trucks like they do.

[agtitan06]

Originally Posted by igbar

So the common denomenator are both the pulley and the fact that they race. Find someone who races without the pulley and see if he/she has a broken flexplate or vice-versa. To be fair, I think both sides of the argument are being a bit hasty with pointing the blame to either or without conclusive proof. But circumstantially, they seemed to be racing before without the WRP pulley installed and without no issues. --maybe it was just a matter of time, but...

But the burden of proof lies with the accused, yes? I'm still not sure, but that's where I would go if I were to argue the point...which I'm not. (disclaimer)

Toomnymods doesn't have the pulley, and he races his Titan more than anyone else...no broken flex plate.

And, hmm...who is the target market for the pulley...duh, people who race...so that is a sorry excuse from Will to say that oh, it's because you race. duh, everyone who has his pulley races...that's why they bought the pulley.

[Mainerunr]

I think some of you are missing the other half of the issue over there...the underdriven PS pulleys that are stock diameter, that Will has admitted are not what he said they would be, that Will has not replaced, that Will changed the website to delete the underdriven notation but left everything else the same (how is it that a stock diameter pulley will have the same power gain as an underdriven one? And could it be that he plans to clean up the ones returned to him and sell them again as new...assuming he ever gets around to replacing them with the product he had advertised).

You can defend him all you want, the guy is scum. Sure, the IMS produces power for our application but the guy has zero business sense and reverts to the same argument regardless of where he is and what he is defending (blame the user, threaten legal action for libel, slander, etc.).

Seriously, reading that thread was like having a flashback to CF 2 months ago.

Originally Posted by MOBEEBO

Also, to be fair, the Titan pulley was independently tested for balance and was found to be fine. Do a web search for flexplates and you will find that they break all of the time if stressed. Heck, the Cummins Diesel guys are breaking them and last I checked Will doesn't make a CP for the Cummins. There is a large market for beefed up flexplates they need to get one if they plan to beat on their trucks like they do.

Balancing one pulley and claiming they are all balanced is a joke. Too many possible glitches in the system (see GB#3 IMS). At the very least, they should all be checked and those too far out of balance rejected. You balance one, then you would have to adjust your machining and test again, and that's assuming you get a uniform material density to begin with. Either way, several parts should be tested (on the size of his batches, they all should be) to ensure that they are within tolerances.

[Zeek]

Originally Posted by MOBEEBO

Do any of these guys have any PROOF that the earth is round? No. They BELIEVE it is because of all this evidence like things dissapearing over the horizon, etc. The earth is internally balanced just like the sun which revolves around us. If the earth was round the seas would just run right off in my opinion. I think all of the sinning by these heathens is responsible for their madness. Certainly a preponderence of evidnece should be ignored. If you want to try to prove something get our lord Zeus to fly down and tell everyone in the world at once that it is so. Nothing else makes and sense.

Fixed.

[Inyourface1650]

This thread certainly brought some people out of the woodwork that i haven't seen in aloooong time.....

But I think mainrunr hit it on the head really, its not just the crank pulley. Also the screen shots are hilarious.