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#121 (permalink) Old 12-22-2012, 12:39 PM
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And you're certain that she didn't have any of those items in place? Maybe she did.

If she didn't, I would agree that was a tragic mistake.

Regardless, locks have keys and/or combinations. Keys can be located and passwords tend to be written down thus possibly found.
We'll probably never know the details on any of this. If she had her firearms secured and she didn't secure the keys and codes, she still showed bad judgement. I get so frustrated when I read news stories that leave basic questions like this unanswered and it's a common problem. It seems that the news media's product is entertainment, not education.

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But we don't free them.
In the US a criminal defendant can be found guilty, but insane in which case the defendant is usually placed in a mental hospital or facility for the criminally insane.

A criminal defendant can also be found not guilty due to temporary insanity in which case they can either be freed completely or freed along with a psychiatric care requirement. That psychiatric care requirement does not always involve mandatory emplacement in a secured mental facility.

So we don't always keep those people locked up.

I would agree that it is a very rare situation that we just let someone walk but it does happen.

In the French case the person that committed the murder had spent time in a secured mental facility so he was not always just allowed to walk around freely. Unfortunately he was "on the outside" when the incident happened.

We Americans just really seem to like locking people up. The US locks up far more people per capita than any other country, including China and Russia.

Just another example of where the USA is #1

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We'll probably never know the details on any of this. If she had her firearms secured and she didn't secure the keys and codes, she still showed bad judgement. I get so frustrated when I read news stories that leave basic questions like this unanswered and it's a common problem. It seems that the news media's product is entertainment, not education.
You know it does take some time for the investigating officials to put together the sequence of events in these cases so we may one day have a better picture of what transpired that day. Plus in this case both people in that household are dead so they can't be questioned.

I'm not defending the media but they can't report on what they don't know.

Though many of them keep trying

And of course much of the news medias product is packaged as entertainment. That's really all the vast majority of people want. Most folks can't be bothered to actually read any in depth pieces of news reporting - they're content with whatever FOX or CNN show them.

When all the official investigation and reports are done I'm sure we'll learn whether Mrs. Lanza had any sort of secure weapon storage in the house.

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Is there a medication link to these outbursts?

At the very least we should consider whether our kids need more exercise. My kids are so busy with homework some weeks they seldom get any sunlight. Why put so much unnatural stress on children?


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Is there a medication link to these outbursts?

At the very least we should consider whether our kids need more exercise. My kids are so busy with homework some weeks they seldom get any sunlight. Why put so much unnatural stress on children?


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Don't count on this being reported or investigated. Look at all the ads by big pharma and the potential side effects on the ads.
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Is there a medication link to these outbursts?
Or an institutional link?

Presently, a lot fewer people are institutionalized for "mental illness" than in previous eras.

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Studies suggest it's linked to poverty.

But it does make you wonder why then there is such opposition to Universal Healthcare in the USA - you all seem to be asking for it.
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But it does make you wonder why then there is such opposition to Universal Healthcare in the USA - you all seem to be asking for it.
the people that want it don't want to pay for it.

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the people that want it don't want to pay for it.
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