Yeah, but an upgrade is an upgrade. You're making as much of a jump as I'll be if I run 4.10's, and that jump is super exciting. What was your reason for regearing?
Hadn't though of it that way, as far as the difference being the same, good thought.
Ditched the stock wheels/tires and went with 33's, I suppose I've got the ability to go with 35's if I wanted.
I remember a friend of mine with 5.xx's, would spin at stop lights.
Jen I run 33's 70-80mph cruise to Moab from Texas was a breeze. It didn't want to downshift nearlyas often in the mountains either. I did alot of math and played with the online gear calculators. 4.56 with 33's is like having a Mustang/Camaro with 4.10's, on 28"s. Totally livable and Awesome acceleration. Also it still doesnt put as low as a Jeeptheyre still way ahead in that dept., but alot better than stock. Youll be able to take off in 2nd on the street too so less gears to row through and offroad in 1st 7grand on mine comes up real quick with 4.56's, loveit, just had to readjust my shift points sooner since the Nissan sslushbox even with a modifyed valvebody is still to damn slow.
here's another thought. put in the 4.56's in the rear and if you don't like them Ill paypal you $50 to cover the resale differance on like new 4.56 gears(youll have to pay for the install)
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Jen I run 33's 70-80mph cruise to Moab from Texas was a breeze. It didn't want to downshift nearlyas often in the mountains either. I did alot of math and played with the online gear calculators. 4.56 with 33's is like having a Mustang/Camaro with 4.10's, on 28"s. Totally livable and Awesome acceleration. Also it still doesnt put as low as a Jeeptheyre still way ahead in that dept., but alot better than stock. Youll be able to take off in 2nd on the street too so less gears to row through and offroad in 1st 7grand on mine comes up real quick with 4.56's, loveit, just had to readjust my shift points sooner since the Nissan sslushbox even with a modifyed valvebody is still to damn slow.
here's another thought. put in the 4.56's in the rear and if you don't like them Ill paypal you $50 to cover the resale differance on like new 4.56 gears(youll have to pay for the install)
Quick question for you Brutal (sorry to the OP for taking over this thread , where can one get gears installed at, and roughly how much does it run? I know we live far apart and prices vary, but just trying to get an idea of it.
$300 per diff is standard rate, probobly higher in places like cali. I do my own. And yes 4.56 go in both diffs. The m226 was really easy with the right tool for turning the side bearing adjusters. a beam torque wrench for reading pinion preload(you dont need a dial, but nice if you already have one) and a dial indicator and magnetic base. The m205 was a biotch since theyre not kidding when they say 500ft# may be needed to set pinion preload. I had a really long cheater pipe over a large1/2" breaker bar to get correct bearing preload on the pinion
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I guess I'll have to give the 4.56's some serious thought now. I'm having trouble remembering why I thought 4.10's seemed like a better idea.
Gear installs around here are $300-500 per axle. If you can bring them the third member, it saves you money versus bringing them the whole truck. Since my HOA would have a fit if my truck was sitting on jack stands for any length of time, I'm going to have to take them the whole truck for the rear axle, but the front would be off the truck obviously. Between the cost of the R&P's, installation, plus whatever miscellaneous hardware/bearings/seals/oil that I need, I had planned on budgeting about $2000 to have the truck regeared (plus the cost of finishing up the T swap). Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of extra change lying around so I'm not going to be able to do it all right away.
I guess I'll have to give the 4.56's some serious thought now. I'm having trouble remembering why I thought 4.10's seemed like a better idea.
cause to many guys wear panties and thats what theyre saying JK
But if you EVEN think about 35s youll need 4.56 or youll be back to driving a dog. I thought about 35's, till I switched to 4.56 on 33's. it works really well for me on road and a huge differance off-road. I doubt Ide ever go to 35's now, sept for maybe looks
I dont know why they would charge more for leaking the axle in(rear only, front has to come out) the rear is so much easier in the truck on a lift to install gears. I think that would be BS personally and would nego that aspect. and your M205 will be out anyway so thats no issue. You ever thought about talking to a shop about renting/borrowing a lift on weekends? you know the offroading really friendly ones that would marvel at a beautifull woman working on her truck in the shop
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cause to many guys wear panties and thats what theyre saying JK
But if you EVEN think about 35s youll need 4.56 or youll be back to driving a dog. I thought about 35's, till I switched to 4.56 on 33's. it works really well for me on road and a huge differance off-road. I doubt Ide ever go to 35's now, sept for maybe looks
I dont know why they would charge more for leaking the axle in(rear only, front has to come out) the rear is so much easier in the truck on a lift to install gears. I think that would be BS personally and would nego that aspect. and your M205 will be out anyway so thats no issue. You ever thought about talking to a shop about renting/borrowing a lift on weekends? you know the offroading really friendly ones that would marvel at a beautifull woman working on her truck in the shop
I don't think I would ever run larger than 33's, but anything is possible. The more I wheel this truck, the more I realize there are certain things that I "need." So I can't say that I'll never wake up one morning after a wheeling trip and proclaim "I need 35's." If there are no huge disadvantages to going with 4.56's over 4.10's then I suppose it makes sense to overgear a bit. You had said "Also it still doesnt put as low as a Jeep theyre still way ahead in that dept." I've ridden shotgun in a couple of Jeeps with deep gearing on the freeway and it's not an awful experience, so maybe 4.56's on a Frontier aren't overkill. I'm still thinking about it...I have time.
There are only two shops in Reno that I would even consider for installing the gears based on reputation. I'm sure neither has much (if any) experience working on Nissans. I'll probably go with whichever of the two gives me the lowest price quote. I wish the shop that installed my locker hadn't closed it doors... Their rates were very reasonable and they were great to work with.
I'm able to do most of my truck projects in my garage, as long as I'm actively work on the truck. The problem is I can't close my garage door with the truck inside (it doesn't fit). When I get around to the Titan swap, I'll probably have to use someone else's garage just in case the project runs more than a single day. Fortunately, I have friends with big garages and air tools who like beer.
This has been a great discussion, but we are so far off topic. I hope the OP understands that we're all just excited that I might be getting an M205.
WHATS WAS THE QUESTION???? DECENT PRICES AND CLOSED DOORS. THERES A CORELATION, GOTTA CHARGE ENOUGH TO STAY IN BUSINESS. THE ONLY COMPANY THAT STILL OPERATES WITHOUT MAKING A PROFIT IS THE GOVERNMENT
THE NISSAN M226 IS JUST LIKE THE DANA IN THE JEEP FOR BUILDING. AND ITS ALOT EASIER TO BUILD THAN SAY gm'S WITH SIDE BEAIRNG SHIMS. THE ADJUSTING NUTS IN THE TUBES ARE SO EASY TO SETUP BACKLASH I LOVED IT. WHEN IVE BOUGHT HOUSES, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE GARAGE AND ITS SIZEAAARGH DAMN CAPLOCK
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