actually without trans, oil pan, and gas tank skids Im 5440 pounds on Houston Raceway track scales, the additional skids are 180 more pounds. To put it another way, my 87 Suburban with 383 stroker weighs 5500 pounds. Welded on sliders, winch(heavy) shrock bumper, roof rack basket with twin tool boxes and tools, recovery gear etc...I weigh approx 1k over Shiner who has the same truck without add ons on stk tires..
And Footy, its ok if it goes sc vs. turbo, just like Toyota, vs Nissan. I meen this is what gets stuff like this going, still very cival IMO. And nothing more than bench racing and chest beating.....SO.........lets not call it anything harsher, its not
Wow, I guess I didn't realize how much crap you have on that thing! YOu need to get that whale on a diet! I was more thinking along the lines of dropping a stock truck down 1000 lbs., and I was picturing how much I would have to saw off my OWN truck in order to get there. Haha.
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does anyone notice this has turned into which is better......Like its kinda got neverending. I subscribed to this thread to see what is envolved in a turbo set-up. Not why stillen sucks or all that.
Well I sure didn't mean for it to go that way and I apologize for doing so, but I wanted to get more along the lines of hashing out the difficulties of both ways of approaching forced induction on these trucks. I'm simply stating the case for the supercharger because I have one. Like I said, I am a tried and true turbocharger fan so I am fully in support of his project, and eager to see the comparison results when it's all said and done.
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support? you dont think sts has a support group? they are awesome. if anything that they send you fails, send it back and they will send you a new unit no problem. im sure with a water to air intercooler you are running low temps. ill have to do some testing once i get it all done so we can compare. and lag, yeah there is a little. but remember, i have no cats. no restriction what so ever. so lag will no be that bad at all. im hoping to be around 13.5-13.1. i would die of joy if i made 12s but i dont think it would happen. we will just have to see. right now im in the 240 hp rage with this kit and setup i should gain about 80hp off of 6 psi easy
Oh I am sure that STS has plenty of support but it's different when you get a full kit that's been manufactured all in one place. Any time you have custom installation of someone else's product, you are going to run into he-said she-said and warranty issues. Working in the business insurance field has given me some interesting insight into product claims, believe me!
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Stillens SC has blown many Titan motors up due to their instructions being wrong...I used to be a member on Club Titan and I read up on all of it...Even with their instructions being wrong, Stillen did not warranty their motors...I dont know if any Frontiers have been blown up but not many people have had them because the kit is so dang expensive.
While I can't speak about the Titan instructions or engines, I know that I followed the directions they provided with the Frontier kit and it was pretty well written. I personally have not had any issues with their customer support, but I'm not going to say it hasn't happened. Each person will see a different response due to his attitude, experience, etc. All I know is that I bought the kit secondhand and they still supported any questions that I had quickly and professionally.
As for the price, I don't really think it's that bad considering all that you get. The sale price was under $4K, and you can barely get a Kenne Bell head unit for an F150 at that price.
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^^^^i AGREE AND HAVE BUILT SC, TURBO AND NA MOTORS AND CARS. I THINK THIS IS GREAT CAUSE STS MAY DECIDE AFTER THIS IS DONE TO BRING A FRONTIER "KIT" TO MARKET. ALTHOUGH BASED ON M Y EXPERIANCE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND BUYING HABITS, I DOUBT IT...BUT THEN AGAIN OTHER THAN A FEW PIPING CHANGES, A KIT CAN COVER FRONTIERS, PATHFINDERS, AND XTERRA...SO WHO KNOWS, AND THIS IS WHY I THINK ALL THIS IS GREAT FOR THE OVERALL NISSAN COMMUNITY
__________________ "Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you."
^^^^i AGREE AND HAVE BUILT SC, TURBO AND NA MOTORS AND CARS. I THINK THIS IS GREAT CAUSE STS MAY DECIDE AFTER THIS IS DONE TO BRING A FRONTIER "KIT" TO MARKET. ALTHOUGH BASED ON M Y EXPERIANCE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND BUYING HABITS, I DOUBT IT...BUT THEN AGAIN OTHER THAN A FEW PIPING CHANGES, A KIT CAN COVER FRONTIERS, PATHFINDERS, AND XTERRA...SO WHO KNOWS, AND THIS IS WHY I THINK ALL THIS IS GREAT FOR THE OVERALL NISSAN COMMUNITY
Absolutely. Unfortunately, often times the aftermarket companies will only enter the market once they have an established demand and the only way to get that is by having people go it alone and fab up their own kits. You know this firsthand with your con rod and piston ordering.
Hopefully it will stem enough demand to get STS to make a kit, which will increase the likelihood of other companies (Stillen, JWT, etc.) to make their own offerings as well. Or lower their pricing.
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i went to sts a while ago and said if i could get 20 guys to buy the first batch of turbos just for are truck it would be 6750!!!!!! way to much for a turbo back system
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does anyone notice this has turned into which is better......Like its kinda got neverending. I subscribed to this thread to see what is envolved in a turbo set-up. Not why stillen sucks or all that.
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an environmental debate is the LAST thing I expected on a car enthusiast forum. I say screw the trees, and lets burn some rubber.
I apologize for doing so also, sorry for that, and yes thats way to high of a price. but i will send alot of photos, times slips, dyno charts and a couple vids to sts when this is all over and see what they say. maybe they will get something start who knows. but with everything, they will need to see interest!
I apologize for doing so also, sorry for that, and yes thats way to high of a price. but i will send alot of photos, times slips, dyno charts and a couple vids to sts when this is all over and see what they say. maybe they will get something start who knows. but with everything, they will need to see $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
THERE, I FIXED YOUR POST
__________________ "Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you."
anyone see this video?? i think it is total bd. 320 wrp 288 tq and only 15.0 n the 1/4 mile? something is way off there. what the hell were they running stock? 17.0 flat?
also this video is what did me into not getting a supercharger. the 0-60 is about 6.2. i would be damn pissed if i got a supercharger and installed it to find out my new gain was 6.2.
also this video is what did me into not getting a supercharger. the 0-60 is about 6.2. i would be damn pissed if i got a supercharger and installed it to find out my new gain was 6.2.
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"Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car. Oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you take the wall with you." 
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