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Old 02-16-2008, 06:44 AM
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And your clients pics are where ?

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Originally Posted by jimmycrackcorn View Post
I'm gonna add a couple cents in here.

First, you gotta be a total monkey to burn paint with a UDM or a PC 7424. Random orbit buffers/polishers just don't create enough heat to burn through. About the only way I can think of burning through with a DA is to put the most aggressive pad you can find on it, set it to the highest speed, put no polish on the pad, and let it sit in the same spot for an hour. So don't be afraid of a UDM or a Porter Cable random orbit, they're basically idiot proof.

Second: "all professional detailers use 3M products". Gotta beg to differ there. While 3m does make some outstanding products, they are not the end-all be-all of automotive detailing. Especially when you have companies such as Optimum, Menzerna, and, dare I say it, Zaino (though I don't really care for their stuff).
So, to the OP..since your truck is already in good shape, with no major swirls or scratches, I would go ahead and get the UDM. Get a set of Lake Country CCS pads. By a set I mean, one cutting, one light cutting, two polishing, one finishing, and one final finishing pad. Get a bottle of polish, I recommend Optimum Polish. Get a good sealant, again, I'll throw out a recommendation here, get Jeffs Werkstatt Prime and Acrylic Jett Trigger. Then wash your truck, clay your truck, wash it again. Polish it with a polishing pad on your UDM with the Optimum Polish. When you're done with that, put on a finishing pad and apply the Prime, and then seal it up with two coats of Acrylic Jett Trigger. That combination will absolutely make your truck look amazing. Metal flake will just pop out at you in the light. Trust me on this one, you will not be disappointed!
And your clients pics are where ? ......yeah well I know there are alot of wannabe's out there, who preach whats what. I also know they think that Zaino, menzerna, optimum and the like are great ......I even know about polish thats $1800 for a 8 oz jar.......but ( I guess I should say MOST Quality ) Professionals utilize 3M, for professional results ! See above pictures ! Also using all that BS amount of products Jimmyoncrackcorn says to use on new paint is ridiculous. Don't use a cutting anything on a brand new paint job ( cutting is for cutting into orange peel , oxidation, etc. ) his way is too many steps. If you want the easy way......do it by hand, and Wash with any kind of car soap, in warm water, using a microfiber sponge, only claybar if the hood feels rough, if it doesn't don't do it. Dry with a water blade, Go buy some Liquid Glass and apply with straight back and forth motions ( read the directions on the liquid glass can ) for the first coat and the day you "Wax" your trucks' only coat. apply with a clean applicator, let dry to a haze, then wipe off with two clean microfiber cloths, then finish with another set of clean microfiber cloths; two dry and one damp. wipe the damp cloth over a section of the truck , followed at once by a clean towel, follwed by a quick light fast buffing with the cleanest towel .........and your done ......none of this use a cutting pad and run a porter cable this ...thats BS ......just get some Liquid Glass do it like I say and your truck will gleam and glow and be protected.Remember I have 15 Years professional detailing experience, and over 4400 cars detailed , myself !

ahh............ you can mess paint up by hand, and therefore , yes you can mess paint up with any buffer. we see all the inferior results of folks who don't properly buff their vehicles by themselves or at the car wash, having the latinos do it. Most notibly you see it in black cars, with stripe looking swirls from buffing in one direction and at the incorrect speed and with the incorrect technique.

Messing up a $30k truck is one thing for the nissan owners, but how about using the wrong method on the only yellow vector in the world ( my client's, $1,000,000 car.....or my clients several ( 3 ) Porsche Carrera GT's @ $450,000+ a pop ...or one of my best Ferrari clients with 11 different ferrari's. You gonna say oops , sorry ......chit someone else, you'll be painting there cars , or maybe they'll sue you for the damages. I have $2.5m Liability coverage to handle any problems, but in all of my 15 yrs of Professional detailing ( I've washed and waxed cars, my own and families for over 35 years ), yes Professional detailing , there is a difference..., I've never used the insurance or had a claim against me !!!

So back to above comments a few posts ago......who are you gonna trust with your Nissan .....Some guy who says you can't mess you vehicle up with DA or even a orbital or some one who professionally details for a living and has tons of referrals, etc. ( craigslist.com in the SF Bay Area, under automotive services , search for my screen name ) and the last thing , Pictures speak a thousand words.....his clients pics are where ?

Last edited by cctmobiledetail : 02-17-2008 at 04:46 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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